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kskiska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 10:15 AM Original message |
Wrenching politics surround stillborns |
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IsisDawn (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
1. NO WAY |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 10:56 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Ummmm......it isn't called a "stillbirth" if it's at |
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IsisDawn (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 11:20 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Slippery slope where no one wins |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 03:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
38. liberalhistorian |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
42. The birth certificate actually says "live birth" |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
2. While I have the greatest compassion for mothers of stillborns |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 10:53 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. You are right - open a Pandora's Box |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 10:58 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Not to downplay or minimize your experience or anything, but |
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IsisDawn (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 11:27 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Why is that? |
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wicket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 02:35 PM Response to Reply #10 |
24. I'm sorry IsisDawn |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 11:33 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. I suggest you inform yourself |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 02:10 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. If they need a document. Get it from their minister! |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
3. who is using this woman's pain, is what i want to know. |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 10:44 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Look no farther than Schaivo's family |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #3 |
12. Good point. Someone is probably pushing her to fight for this. |
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HuffleClaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
5. it is NOTHING except a steath anti-abortion ploy |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
13. We have mean spiritted people who play on greiving moms/others. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
14. All states issue a death certificate for a stillbirth |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
15. Interesting....I was born dead... |
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AnneD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 12:37 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. I would have been pissed too.... |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
17. Personally, I would consider it sick for anyone to have a picture of a dead baby |
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gatorboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 02:19 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Why is it sick? |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. I didn't say anything about the hand prints and other items as being sick |
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gatorboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 02:49 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. And yet the question remains. |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 02:51 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Why doesn't it bother you? |
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gatorboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Because if I had a child that was stillborn, I might possibly want a photo. |
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likesmountains 52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 03:55 PM Response to Reply #26 |
39. I will weigh in on this because I have personal experience...read only if you are tough.. |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. How very well-adjusted of you. |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 02:34 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I don't see people taking pictures of their dead loved ones in the casket. |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. It's been done, as well as death masks. |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 03:16 PM Response to Reply #23 |
34. Common practice in the 19th century, when so many infants died |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
19. Why not just give a birth certificate for every birth... |
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Maine-ah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 02:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. ah, someone thinking logically! |
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gatorboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 02:59 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Aright, who's that cutie patoodie? |
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Maine-ah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 03:21 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. aw, thanks! that is little Miss Maine-ah (she looks like Daddy) |
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gatorboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Well she's a little doll! |
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Maine-ah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. omg.....she's wicked cute! |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 03:12 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. Thanks! nt |
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Maine-ah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 03:32 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. you're welcome |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 03:05 PM Response to Reply #19 |
31. My birth certificate already does that. |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 03:12 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Great! I'm kinda surprised it's not done that way everywhere. nt |
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colinmom71 (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 04:07 PM Response to Reply #19 |
41. Because most states classify their legal records of birth... |
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