The Problems I've noticed In the So-Called "Kenyan Birth Certificate"

[WeDidIt]

These were just upon first glance and took me a total of about 20 minutes to find:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/18018714/03118509265

1) The photograph has three resolutions embedded. The highest resolution is for the paper. The second highest resolution is the fabric background. The lowest resolution is the text.

2) Mis-spelled the name of the village that Obama's father was born in as "Kanyadhinng" instead of Kanyadhiang".

3) Gave the age of Obama's father as "26". He was born in 1936 and thus could not have been older than "25".

4) The certificate number is given as "47,044" which is remarkable considering that Barack Hussein Obama was 47 years old when he was sworn in as the 44th president of the United States.

5) Most damning of all, the font used is Schmutz, which was invented in 1995.

Post any of the problems you see here.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

1. More:

"Republic of Kenya" was not declared until after the date on the document

Document is a reproduced copy, birthers had a problem with that with Obama's COLB, this is no better (in addition to the fact it's a forgery)

[Botany]

2. The Republic of Kenya didn't start until Dec 1964 .... and the document was

dated Feb. 17th 1964.

Oh and it was posted on World Net Daily too.


Besides where is the person telling me that he has 2.5 million in Gold Bonds and just needs $3,500 in cash to get the
paperwork done .... but he is a Prince and will split the money w/ me after send him the money to help w/ the forms.

[Mnemosyne]

210. I sent my money in months ago. Is it going to pay off now?

:rofl::evilgrin::rofl:

[burrowowl]

219. This only shows how ignorant these people

and the M$M are. You are correct Kenya was not a Nation until Dec. 1964, so how was a Kenyan Birth Certificate issued on Feb. 17, 1964. This in itself should give lie to the rumor.

[Buzz Clik]

3. why waste your time with it at all? He was born in Hawaii. The end.

[WeDidIt]

6. Because this one was apparently designed to hoodwink Oily Tightz

And it's fun to point out how baltant the forger was in the forgery.

Embedding the 47,044 joke?

This is some high comedy right here!

[K8-EEE]

21. That is funny!!

The Freeps are totally hook line and sinker of course.....their celebration threads are a giggle.

[ColbertWatcher]

49. O RLY?

[jmowreader]

83. Is it just me, or does Orly look like Audrey from Little Shop of Horrors?

[ColbertWatcher]

116. In that pic yes! n/t

[Berry Cool]

147. She really does!

Only problem is, the "Somewhere That's Green" is her face.

[notadmblnd]

182. Did that woman pull the legs off of spiders and use them for her eye lashes?

This one needs to go back to Russia.

[EmilyAnne]

205. She sprinkled Oreo crumbs on her lashes. Makes her eyes POP! nt

[Joanne98]

10. Because it's FUN!

:party:

[ecstatic]

4. An issue actually raised by a "freeper:" Why did they go to Mombasa

to deliver the birth (which is all the way on the east side of Kenya, when his family lived all the way on the west side of Kenya. Nairobi would have been the logical choice to go to in such a situation. :crazy:

[ColbertWatcher]

77. Not only that, but Wikip*dia says ...

"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mombasa">{Mombasa} is located on Mombasa Island, which is separated from the mainland by two creeks: Tudor Creek and Kilindini Harbour."

[kentuck]

5. It's in pretty good shape for a 45-year old document...

even after it has been folded. And it is a copy. I didn't think they put seals on copies??

[kestrel91316]

14. They use seals on certified copies in the US. It's part of how you

know it's the real thing.

Notary publics use their seal when they notarize a copy of something. They are verifying that it is a true and correct COPY of another document, not that the original is legit, FYI.

[glowing]

191. The last notarized item I got was at the bank.. It was a stamp. The lady

signed in a space within the stamp... Then signed a book issuing the stamp and I signed the book. It must be new for FL.. just a few years ago it was a stamp that dented the paper.

[dorkulon]

41. Exactly. Has this thing been in a mylar bag in a humidor or something?

How do you get paper to hold up like that?

[Political Tiger]

119. And it's not yellowed at all. Unless it was kept in an airtight safe

for 45 years the paper would have been discolored.....yellowed at least around the edges/folds.

[onehandle]

7. Looks real to me. Hey, birthers. We elected a Kenyan and there's nothing you can do about it.

Must really suck for you to be so powerless.

[Nickster]

17. LoL

[d_b]

35. ^^ suck it, freeps.

[Parker CA]

58. Best post I've read in awhile! HAHAHHAHAHAHAAAA Well done. Eat it freeps.

[uppityperson]

73. Obviously Obama was born in both Kenya AND Hawaii, and is qualified to be President of the World!

suck it birthers
"Obviously Obama was born in both Kenya AND Hawaii, and is thus qualified to be President of the World."

[Mnemosyne]

211. Oh...

:spank::rofl:

[tabatha]

8. Zoom it up and look at the text

---- only photoshopped text would have that noise around it.

[WeDidIt]

11. That indicates the text is a lower resolution than the paper

You'll see similar noise between the fabric background and the paper, which indicates the background is a slightly lower resolution than the paper.

[janx]

25. That's what I noticed first.

All of that sparkly stuff everywhere the type is.

[LynneSin]

9. that's not a "0" in 47O44 - it's an O

Take a look at the district to the right of the 47O44 - same round O

Whoever typed this used the letter "O" in the document number and it matches the same "O" in the district (to the right of it)


The letter O is rounder than the number 0



This is from the legal document filed by Orly. Notice the letter "O" in her first name and compare it to the number listed right below her name (The box number). The "O" in her name is much rounder but the zeros are much narrower "0"

Someone played a GO0F of the birthers but they haven't figured that one out yet

[WeDidIt]

13. "O" for Obama

:evilgrin:

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

30. I think the "47 O 44" pretty much proves it's an authentic troll.

[Lex]

71. I think it was planted to sucker the freepers

and of course it worked.

[Hepburn]

122. That is just tooooooooo rich to be true!

And the fucking idiot Freep-holios bought it!

LOL...:rofl:

[Mrs. Overall]

131. Now they are saying God put the 47044 there (no, really)--

To: HelenaGrace

The “47O44” looks really suspicious.

Yep, in his 47th year 0 became the 44th president of USA. But then, God has a good sense of humor, too. We'll just have to wait and see where this will end.
3,161 posted on Sunday, August 02, 2009 2:55:02 PM by nightlight7

[WeDidIt]

134. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[BattyDem]

156. Well ... that explains it!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[DCKit]

199. Then it was God's own prophecy. Who are we to question God? It was meant to be. n/t

[Adelante]

48. That's my favorite part

Somebody sure is playing her for a sucker. I love it. :)

[jmowreader]

87. This doesn't disqualify the document

Some old typewriters didn't have a 1 or a zero; you used a lowercase L or uppercase I for the 1 and an uppercase O for a zero. It's possible the person who forged this knew this and used the "correct" characters you'd use on an ancient typewriter.

I like how he smudged the "96" in the middle of Obama's birth year, but didn't tamper with the two ones (or lowercase L's, as the case may be) that flank it.

[sabrina 1]

214. delete, dupe

[sabrina 1]

215. 47 (yr old) O(bama)44(th Potus)

:rofl: but the Freepers think the explanation for that number is probably just 'prophetic'!

[berni_mccoy]

12. Official language is Swahili (and English). More than likely the document would have been in Swahili

or at least some of it would have been.

[Adelante]

55. Official language is English - National language is Sawhili

Kiswahili is the national language and English the official language. That means the government business and education are conducted in English, while Swahili is the most widely spoken language.

In addition to these two languages, most of the people in Kenya also speak what they would call their "mother tongue" - the language that they grew up speaking. While an increasing number of city-dwellers are growing up speaking English, most rural people speak their tribal languages.

http://www.communication.go.ke/kenya.asp?cat_id=5

[ohheckyeah]

15. It's probably nothing but

I thought it was odd the deputy registrar's name is listed as Mr. Miller.

[Joanne98]

16. It saz stanley ann is 18 years old. The freepers have been saying she was under 18.

[usregimechange]

18. Good work

[WeDidIt]

19. It isn't work if the things are obvious

I mean, all I had to do was look at the thing. No work to it at all.

Now, if somebody were to actually WORK at it, I'm sure all kinds of other things can be found.

[madaboutharry]

20. I thought it was funny that the

Registras name is E.P. Lavender. It sounds strange.

[ohheckyeah]

24. Actually it's E.F.

Lavender - earth friendly lavender is a detergent. LOL

[madaboutharry]

33. I just bought Mrs. Meyers'

Lavender laundry detergent yesterday at the grocery store. And you know what? It is Earth Friendly too!

[Mrs. Overall]

53. Yep--a soap:

E.F. LAVENDER ECOS LIQ LAUNDRY, 50oz
see more like 'E.F. LAVENDER ECOS LIQ LAUNDRY, 50oz'
Average Price:$7 —— Value and performance have not always been qualities of environmentally-responsible products. But, ECOS, a concentrated liquid laundry detergent provides better price performance than the competition. ECOS cleans a full laundry load with only two ounces, Can be used in front loading and HE machines. It has a built-in soy based fabric softener and cellulose based optical brightener.

Brand: Earth Friendly

[mainer]

61. So who is Mr. Miller? Another piece of the puzzle.

Maybe his high school band instructor? The forger certainly had a good time with this.

[ohheckyeah]

Maybe the Mr. Miller

of Mr. Miller's Toonzone?

http://www.gamecreature.com/toonzone/ :rofl:

[Joanne98]

79. Mr Miller goes to Washington. LOL

Mr. Miller Goes to Washington Starring Dennis Miller (1988) (TV)

This comedy special shows what was to become of Dennis Miller- 2 great TV shows, several movies and a 5 year stinch on Saturday Night Live as a newscaster (the best behind Norm MacDonald). He brings his great comedy to the stage, showing he has had practice in his years on the road (this was later made into an album called the Off-white album). Here, he rants about his days in the south (and a club called I don't get its), the International house of pancakes, a-holes, and many other things. Fun, but not for the dumb people who won't get it (like the people in the South, no offense). A

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0249466/usercomments

[BooBluePotion]

22. What about mom and dads residence

Wouldn't they be listed under a kenya address if president obama was born there?

One says hawaii and the other is kansas.

[ColbertWatcher]

70. Those are birth places. n/t

[tabatha]

80. Senior was not born in Honolulu.

[ColbertWatcher]

115. Another "Easter egg!" n/t

[Joanne98]

23. Joshua Simon.. It's probably nothing but..........

It could be a joke.......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_Simon


Joshua Simon directed 4 short movies with Baboon Group, including The Radicals and City Hole.

Simon published the poetry book National Citizens. In the first issue of Ma'ayan he published a list called "The Prince" exploring his life and views on the world from A to Z.

[WeDidIt]

28. E. F. Lavender is probably also a joke

This thing is filled with Easter Eggs.

[jberryhill]

180. Law Clerk...

In Australia.

In 1915.

http://ndpbeta.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/printArticleJpg/1536351/3?print=n

[Joanne98]

202. Australia's not Kenya. But good catch anyway.

[jberryhill]

213. No Duh.... and 1915 is not 1961 either....

...and the entire Lavender family in Britain and its possessions was neutered by 1920...

[tabatha]

29. If it is a joke,

I hope the perpetrator comes forward and lists all the errors he put it in as signs that it was a fraud.

[ecstatic]

51. Who gave it to Orly? I'm assuming she paid good money for it! nt

[Turborama]

26. Is that a bit of chocolate on "Maiden Surame"?

Amazing how this document has survived all these years without a blemish and someone accidentally spills a bit of their Snickers bar on it...

Maybe they're covering up a typo?

[itsrobert]

27. I think it's a dried burger snot

If only Dr House was here, the red tint may signify that the person has a rare blood condition with only days to live.

[rateyes]

47. And, that looks like a typed name,

not a "signature" beside "Signature of Registrar."

[BattyDem]

159. I can hear the birthers now ... "'signature' means something different in Kenya"

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Liberal Veteran]

160. It's not chocolate, it's an Oily Tater stain.

[Joanne98]

31. Some things noted by commenter's on another forum

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090802084549AAN1xrc

That's obviously a forgery. It says "certified copy of registration of birth" when REAL Kenyan birth certificates say, "Authentic registration of birth". I know this because I'm an Kenyan obstetrician.
4 hours ago


Look at the orientation of the letters

If you draw lines toward the horizon point of convergence, you see that this is obviously a FAKE.
4 hours ago


The bright dots surrounding all the text indicates very poor photoshopping.
Source(s):
Previous experience with photoshop.
2 hours ago

[rvablue]

67. Well, that about sums it up. As of now, WND is saying that it's authentic

because (Gee? Yah think?) Orly Taitz says it is!??!?!?! (What an authority! NOT.)

All it's going to take is another hour or two before someone on this series of tubes posts a real Kenyan BC and it will be obvious this is a fabrication.

My only hope: that that dyed plantinum blonde dentist wannabe lawyer Taitz forked over some coin for this. Ha, ha!

[WeDidIt]

32. Signature of Registrar = E.F. Lavender

MR. Miller is listed as District Registrar.

[Joanne98]

34. Can anybody get a closer look at the seal. I bet it's got a funny message in it.

[madaboutharry]

36. Let me understand something here.

Did Orly Taitz actually file this in court?

[WeDidIt]

38. She filed the photograph

She is SOOOOO PWN3D!!!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

40. ....

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Joanne98]

54. I bet she paid someone for it. She got soooo screwed. lol

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

39. lol! I certainly hope she did and gets thrown out on her ass!

:rofl:

[WeDidIt]

37. Mombasa was a part of Zanzibar until December 12, 1963

Wasn't ceded to Kenya until December 12, 1963, so BArack Hussein Obama could not have been born in Mombasa, Kenya as there was no Mombasa Kenya on August 4, 1961.

[mainer]

42. So Barack was born in Zanzibar!

this gets funnier and funnier.

[Ilsa]

200. Now I'm laughing. "Zanzibar" used to be a gay nightclub years ago

where I lived. They made a great deli lunch, there, too.

[Mrs. Overall]

44. Great catch!

[ohheckyeah]

45. ROFLMAO

What fun!

[Canuckistanian]

59. Good catch!

Wiki confirms....
"Mombasa was part of the state of Zanzibar until 12 December 1963 when it was ceded to be incorporated into the newly independent state of Kenya."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mombasa

[tabatha]

68. GREAT catch!

I hope whoever did this is reading the freepers.
He must be drowning in tears.

[eridani]

186. Pulling a Hermione Granger here--

--or SHE.

[rvablue]

76. Don't forget that link, WeDidIt......suck it Birthers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mombasa

[Mrs. Overall]

43. There's something amiss with the signature at the bottom--it looks too bright

and appears to be a photoshop addition or a forged recent signature. It looks out of place (as do other elements of the document).

[ColbertWatcher]

46. Here's the real Kenyan birth certificate ...

[Parker CA]

66. BWWWAAAA HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAA!!!! Laughing so hard right now.

B-Rock "the Islamic Shock" Hussein Superallah Obama. LOL

This is some seriously hilarious stuff.

[boppers]

98. SUPERALLAH!

You owe me a new keyboard.

:rofl:

[Hawkeye-X]

121. woot

[Dogmudgeon]

133. I laughed. I cried. I wet my pants.

But mainly, I wet my pants.

:rofl:

--d!

[Lex]

152. "Certificate of Live Muslim Kenyan Birth to a White Lady"

:rofl:

[Subdivisions]

161. Give this it's own GD post! n/t

[Iggo]

171. Sure He's Muslim? Oh, yeah.

:rofl:

[robinlynne]

209. That one killed me!

[realisticphish]

173. +1000

[Patiod]

198. This stuff writes itself

Love it

[SallyMander]

201. OMG you win

I am dying laughing at this!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[robinlynne]

208. love it!

[Joanne98]

50. ODUYA.. There's a Johnny Oduya who plays with the New Jersey DEVILS!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Oduya

Whoever made this was just full of jokes.

[WeDidIt]

63. Good lord!

Johnny Oduya is KEnyan-Swedish!

[AspenRose]

101. Hey, he's a cutie!

This whole thing is so funny.

[Iggo]

175. Johnny Oduya -- Kenyan-Swedish hockey man.

Oh, this just gets better and better.

[Control-Z]

52. When did this show up? Is this new?

I haven't really followed any of the birth cert stuff.

[WeDidIt]

65. Oily Tightz posted it today.

It's an exhibit (the photograph, NOT the document depicted in the photograph) in a filing she made yesterday.

[sufrommich]

56. It's all moot anyway,FOR HE IS THE SON OF MALCOLM X !!!!!!!

To: Scanian
That Dunham chin is unmistakeable. It is also the best identifying characteristic on Annie’s naked pictures.
It's the jawline -- long and narrow. Stanley Ann has it as does her father AND her son. Compare photos of Obama with Barack Sr. and there's virtually no resembling characteristic. His face and facial features are round.

Now, compare photos of Obama with Malcolm X and there's more "there" there, including skin color, forehead shape, skeletal body structure. Listen to X's voice, compare to Obama's vocal intonation. Just sayin...

http://radiopatriot.blogspot.com/2009/06/i-dont-know-what-do-you-think.html

IF I had to guess, I'd say Stanley Ann wasn't quite sure whose sperm hit the egg, so she rolled the dice on Obama Sr.


2,675 posted on Sunday, August 02, 2009 4:15:19 PM by patriotgal1787 ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing" - Edmund Burke)
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[Joanne98]

57. O-DU-YA lol

[WeDidIt]

62. Okay, who's the DUer that gave this thing to Oily Tightz?

:evilgrin:

[Joanne98]

64. HAHAHA!

[Mz Pip]

60. Where are the parents' signatures?

No signatures of either parent on the signature line.

E. F. Lavender didn't sign it either. :rofl:

[WeDidIt]

72. OH COME OFF IT!

MR. Miller's signature always appears to be typewritten as "E.F. Lavender" in Schmutz font.

:rofl:

[ohheckyeah]

75. Nor did Mr. Miller. n/t

[rvablue]

78. Add to that, the doctor's signature, the name of the hospital, hand and foot prints and

all of the other detes that give Birthers their "reasons" for not accepting his real BC from Hawaii.

They are idiots! I hope this has caused them to flood Taitz with donations -- less money for them to donate to the midterm elections next year! :rofl:

[jmowreader]

148. A real BC doesn't have hand and footprints

Hospitals like to give new parents (well, at least they did) this great big certificate with footprints and a bunch of other shit on it, but said certificate isn't legally valid.

Know what IS legally valid today? The short form Certificate of Live Birth the president already made public.

[rvablue]

153. No shit. n/t

[Lex]

69. I think some socialist lib'rulz have PWNED the freepers.

Awesome. :thumbsup:

[Parker CA]

74. I feel like this is from the kids magazine Highlights were you have to find the hidden objects.

All of my doctors and dentist offices had them growing up. Some serious creativity went into this, and the flat birthers actually bought this, hook, line, and sinker. UN-freakin-believable. Once again, an example that their collective stupidity has absolutely no bounds.

[AspenRose]

105. ROFL

:rofl:

[Parker CA]

110. That's it! HAHHAHAHA.

[myrna minx]

177. LOL! Exactly.

:rofl:

[jmondine]

179. Someone should tell the Freepers that Goofus wasn't the role model one

[Turborama]

81. I've been trying to find what a real certificate looks like and came up with this...

This is obviously a modern one but it does make you wonder about what questions weren't put on the fake one...

[GoesTo11]

82. It lists his "Christian name"

as Barack Hussein II, but he's supposed to be a Muslim not a Christian, and Barack Hussein is a Muslim name not a Christian name.

[PatGund]

125. In many commonwealth countries and colonies...

The term "Christian name" was used for "full name"

[GoesTo11]

136. I knew that

was just playing freeper.

[WeDidIt]

84. Birth Registrar of this Province, Book 44B

Barack is the 44th president.

Trying to figure out the Easter Egg left in Page 5733.

[ohheckyeah]

85. Maybe this?

5733 is a Hebrew year that started in the evening before September 9, 1972 and ended on September 26, 1973. This year has 383 days. It is a leap year in the Hebrew Metonic cycle, with two Adar months - Adar I and Adar II. It is a Shmita year.

In year 5733, State of Israel celebrated 25 years of independence.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5733_(Hebrew_year)

[sabrina 1]

216. 5733 could also be this:

http://maps.uchicago.edu/eastquad/centers.html

Centers for Gender/Race Studies
5733 South University Avenue
Chicago, IL 60637

Or this:

http://www.coinnews.net/coin-legislation/hr-5733-glacier-national-park-commemorative-coin-act/

H.R. 5733: Glacier National Park Commemorative Coin Act
To require the Secretary of the Treasury to mint and issue coins commemorating the 100th anniversary of the establishment of Glacier National Park, and for other purposes.

Freeper thread is now over 5,300 comments. Despite all the evidence that it is a fraud, they are still hopeful and only awaiting Oily's word that it has been 'authenticated'. Apparently she is at this moment, in London ~ where hopefully someone will take pity on her and get her to one of their free mental health clinics for evaluation.

[Lex]

86. That's one big ass book if it has almost 6,000 pages to it, eh?

Don't know the significance of the number, but having seen lots of Deed Books and the like, there aren't 6,000 pages per Book.

[WeDidIt]

96. I know

The hoaxter has embedded numerous easter eggs.

[PA Democrat]

128. Another Easter Egg? Honolulu and Mombasa are "sister cities" per Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mombasa

[ColbertWatcher]

139. LOL! n/t

[Joanne98]

193. good catch

[ColbertWatcher]

107. 5733 is also a blog ...

http://fiftyseventhirtythree.wordpress.com/

[ColbertWatcher]

109. 5733 is also a Windows error code ...

http://www.dcclifecare.com/error-codes/error-5733.html

Causes of Error 5733
These are critical Windows errors caused by missing system files or broken corrupt data. This should be fixed immediately to prevent further damage to hardware and applications on your computer. Failing to repair the problem can result in system crashes, loss of data, and hardware failure.

[Lex]

111. "missing system files or broken corrupt data"

cute

Someone took some time with the fake numbers. :thumbsup:

[ColbertWatcher]

114. This has prank written all over it! n/t

[WeDidIt]

112. This Hoaxter is filled with TEH FUNNY!

This is seriously high comedy.

[BattyDem]

120. I thought it could be a date ... 5733 = May 7, 1933

Didn't find anything significant about that date in Obama's life, but May 7, 1933 is the day FDR delivered his fireside chat outlining the New Deal.

Doesn't really have anything to do with Obama, but I found it interesting. :-)

[jberryhill]

129. Hebrew year 5733 ran from September 1972 - September 1973

[Sheepshank]

135. Fireside chat 5/7/33

contents of that fireside are little more parallel that one could imagine. Here are a couple of paragraphs"
May 7, 1933

Radio Address of the President

On a Sunday night a week after my Inauguration I used the radio to tell you about the banking crisis and the measures we were taking to meet it. I think that in that way I made clear to the country various facts that might otherwise have been misunderstood and in general provided a means of understanding which did much to restore confidence.

Tonight, eight weeks later, I come for the second time to give you my report -- in the same spirit and by the same means to tell you about what we have been doing and what we are planning to do.

Two months ago we were facing serious problems. The country was dying by inches. It was dying because trade and commerce had declined to dangerously low levels; prices for basic commodities were such as to destroy the value of the assets of national institutions such as banks, savings banks, insurance companies, and others. These institutions, because of their great needs, were foreclosing mortgages, calling loans, refusing credit. Thus there was actually in process of destruction the property of millions of people who had borrowed money on that property in terms of dollars which had had an entirely different value from the level of March, 1933. That situation in that crisis did not call for any complicated consideration of economic panaceas or fancy plans. We were faced by a condition and not a theory.

There were just two alternatives: The first was to allow the foreclosures to continue, credit to be withheld and money to go into hiding, and thus forcing liquidation and bankruptcy of banks, railroads and insurance companies and a recapitalizing of all business and all property on a lower level. This alternative meant a continuation of what is loosely called "deflation", the net result of which would have been extraordinary hardship on all property owners and, incidentally, extraordinary hardships on all persons working for wages through an increase in unemployment and a further reduction of the wage scale.

<snip>

It is wholly wrong to call the measure that we have taken Government control of farming, control of industry, and control of transportation. It is rather a partnership between Government and farming and industry and transportation, not partnership in profits, for the profits would still go to the citizens, but rather a partnership in planning and partnership to see that the plans are carried out.


Just a little co-inkydink



http://www.fdrlibrary.marist.edu/050733.html

[ColbertWatcher]

141. SOCIALISM!!!!!!11!!1

[StatGirl]

174. Turn it upside down . . .

. . . and it's EELS. I can't see any significance to that, though.

[Warpy]

88. I have another question

Why would a predominately Muslim country call it a Christian name?

Oh, I know it might have been a holdover from Empire, but I really can't see it persisting after 1964 when the Republic was founded.

[ohheckyeah]

95. Good question. n/t

[Adelante]

166. It's predominately a Christian country

Christian-Protestant 45% (This includes the Anglican Church of Kenya)
Roman Catholic 33%
Islam 10%
Indigenous religions 10%
Other 2%

http://www.kenya-information-guide.com/kenya-religion.html

I expected the percentage of Muslims to be higher, too.

[Joanne98]

89. There's a song called "The Joker" sung by a Mr Miller......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIHP9o6X6D8&feature=related


LOL

[jberryhill]

90. That's not Schmutz

The "4" has an open top in Schmutz

http://www.fonthaus.com/products/fonts/fontfind.cfm?search=Schmutz

[WeDidIt]

93. You're right.

It's not a typeface of a typewriter, though.

[tabatha]

91. I found something

5733 Annual Report of the Kenya National Assembly for the Year Ended 31st December 1964

http://www.sabinesbooks.com/AfricaGovernmentPublications.html

[AspenRose]

92. Didn't WND offer a cash reward for anyone who found the "real" birth certificate?

Greed and bigotry are great motivators....worth taking the risk to look like a fool, n'est-ce pas?

[WeDidIt]

104. It was given "anonymously" to Oily Tightz, not WND

Somebody has PWN3D Oily Tightz.

[Reform]

94. this is going to make Pastor Manning's head explode

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXwOj7ncLco

LMAO, love him or hate him the guy makes me laugh, im not sure if hes serious or just an act but my god does he make me laugh.

[jmowreader]

97. It's also the wrong color

45-year-old African-made paper would be yellow by now. I seriously doubt the Deputy Registrar of Births, Deaths and Marriages in the Coast Province of Kenya was buying pH-buffered paper.

[WeDidIt]

99. LOL, I've barely started looking at the physical irregularities

The Easter Eggs are too delicious to go into the physicaly problems.

Like the fold lines.

Why would you fold it like that?

[jmowreader]

151. It is a really weird fold, isn't it?

I was thinking at first that the guy who forged this first did a standard letterfold, then folded it in half twice to create the vertical lines. Not so--this is a "M" or "W" fold. Look at them--up, down, up instead of up, down, down.

[WeDidIt]

155. They did a letterfold first, that's certain

But if you look at how the other folds work out, after the standard letter fold they turned the document 90 degrees and did another pseudo-letter fold, followed by a fold down the middle.

Very weird.

[ohheckyeah]

100. Did I miss something?

WND says it found "another birth certificate" to compare this to but under that statement is the same birth certificate. They don't show the "other one" that this is supposed to be identical to.

[WeDidIt]

102. Yeah, right

World NEt Daily claims a liot of shit.

Like they claim they never validated Obama's Birth Certificate when they did.

[WeDidIt]

103. FONT NOT SCHMUTZ

Still tracking down the actual font, but it definitely ain't from a typewriter.

[ohheckyeah]

130. I just went through about 100 fonts and I haven't

found a match yet. Have you had any luck?

[WeDidIt]

132. Noep, and it's not really worht it

There's enough easter eggs and then there's the original and all the Hawaiian officials for the truth of the matter.

[ohheckyeah]

146. I know what you mean.

It's probably one of the hundreds of "typewriter" fonts.

[WeDidIt]

167. Besides, Freepers will focus on that one thing

and blow off everything else, accepting this hoax as real...

:evilgrin:

[jberryhill]

138. When you say it's definitely not from a typewriter

I'm guessing you looked at internal uniformity of like characters, such as the consistency of the capital A's throughout the document?

Have you found internal like characters that significantly differ from each other?

I'd think it is odd that someone wouldn't use a typewriter to produce a forgery. I've got an old Underwood in the basement, and they aren't hard to come by.

[WeDidIt]

157. If you look, all of the text is an artifact from photoshopping

IT's a very obvious photoshop job.

[jberryhill]

172. Wouldn't you think....

That someone would at least gin up a form and fill it out with a typewriter for the picture?

The fact that there are compression artifacts around the printing doesn't mean a whole lot.

[kirby]

106. You missed the most obvious flaw!

He was born in the USA, so it cannot possibly be authentic!

[WeDidIt]

108. Well, ...yeah

But I'm looking for all the jokes the hoaxter included in the document.

[Lex]

113. Everyone is starting from that premise.

Well, everyone here.

[rhett o rick]

207. Huh?

[Lex]

212. Everyone at DU is starting with the premise that it is not authentic

because he was born in the US.

At least I hope DU doesn't have any birthers among its membership.

[rhett o rick]

217. i understand. thanks. nm

[WeDidIt]

117. More information on Certificate Number 47,O44

The population of Mombasa, Kenya as of 1999 was only 707,400.

ETA: The current birth rate is 40 per 1000 residents. Given that birth rate, there would be 28,296 births in Mobasa, Kenya in 1999.

[Zynx]

118. The registrar is both E.F. Lavender and Mr. Miller?

Hmmmm...

[BattyDem]

124. Is it legal to put "Mr." on an official government document?

The guy doesn't have a first name? :rofl:

[Zynx]

127. If it were in the text of a legal document when referring to someone, for example

"Mr. Miller has agreed to....", but other than that, no. It would never appear in a form like this.

[troubleinwinter]

164. It is NOT Mr. Miller. It is M.H. Miller

http://orlytaitzesq.com/obama-certified-copy-of-registration-of-birth-in-kenya.htm

Hahahah!!!! Orly's got her name satmped all over it in purple!

[Stephanie]

206. Her site is hilarious, as is her blog. Mostly she's after donations.

And clients! Just below the "complaint" posted on her blog is a solicitation for advertisers:

http://www.OrlyTaitzEsq.com/blog1/

You can Advertise on Orly’s blog!
July 31st, 2009
NOW AVAILABLE LIMITED ADVERTISING SPACE

Links or Top Posts in blog,

Contact Orly for more info;

[e-mail]

1.949.683.5411

Are you going into foreclosure? Call us, we might be able to help

[garybeck]

123. WHAT ARE the chances that the same person did Rather's "C'ya" memo?

it has a distinctly familiar odor to it.

[tabatha]

126. Found this in another site

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread487621/pg19
Originally posted by tonygal
I figured she had something. On Friday Orly posted all kinds of stuff on her blog asking about authenticating circa 1961 Kenyan birth records

Very important. i need verification that E. F. Lavender was British colonial registrar in Mombasa, Kenya in 1961.

July 31st, 2009 Posted in Uncategorized | 9 Comments

Very important
July 31st, 2009
1. I need experts who can authenticate documents from Kenya.
2. I need to find people who were born in Kenya in 1961 and have their birth certificate. I need to see it, I need to see how it looks like.
3. I need to know who was the British registrar in Mombasa in 1961.
If you have info, call me 949-XXX-XXXX. No crank calls please, and be short, please. I really don’t have any time for stories

Source:

www.orlytaitzesq.com...

Would it not be funny if E. F. Lavender - was really an easter egg for washing powder?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

REALLY GOOD BLOG ON THIS
http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/

[Cleita]

137. Wasn't Kenya a British Colony before 1964 meaning the Republic of Kenya

should have been non-existent in 1961. I worked for a Kenyan couple of English descent at one time in the late sixties. They even fought the Mau Mau during the revolution before they immigrated to the USA. They were very adamant that they were British subjects even though they were born in Kenya.

[Reform]

140. just heard phil bergs reactioon

hes doubtful about it he claims, and thinks this woman is out to discredit the "Birther" movement lol.
He pointed out a few flaws and explained a comment made by Orly Taitz eluding to wanting to take Berg down.
There is in fighting with in the birthers lol i had no idea

[Adelante]

168. There's a hearing in Philadelphia on Friday - Birthers v. Birthers (Liberi v. Taitz)

Berg is asking for a temporary order of protection against Orly. But since Orly is off on vacation, maybe they've gotten it postponed.

[jberryhill]

181. There Is A Civil War In Birfistan

Orly is West Birfistan.

Berg is East Birfistan.

The battle's been raging for months.

[Dogmudgeon]

142. Who ya gonna call? Peter Ogego!

He's the Kenyan ambassador -- so that's "http://kenyaembassy.com/ambmessage.html">His Excellency, The Most Honorable Peter Ogego" for you muggs.

Mr. Ogego is the man we should be asking about this. I'm sure H.E. could use a good laugh.

It's quite the kewl website ==> http://kenyaembassy.com/">Kenya Embassy

--d!

[peacetalksforall]

143. This oiley person should have hired the people (the Ludeen Team) who

faked the yellowcake letters. At least their fake was a fake for a longer time period.

Oily Tightz?
I haven't been following the birther stuff that much - is this person the screecher?

[PA Democrat]

144. "Christian Name(s)"

There is no official religion in Kenya, so why would the BC use a religious qualifier in front of "name"? While the majority of Kenyans are Christian, about 10% are Muslim, with a concentration in the Mombasa/ coastal region.

[magellan]

165. Former British colony

In England, your first name is your "Christian name".

[Adelante]

169. In the US, too, when I was growing up

You don't hear it anymore, but it was common usage back then.

[Berry Cool]

145. Well, it looks like it was signed by Keith Olbermann

and I really doubt that he was Deputy Registrar of Births, Deaths and Marriages for Kenya back in 1961.

Come to think of it, given that he was born in 1959, I'm not sure he was capable of signing his name by 1961. Although if he'd been asked to, it might still have looked a lot like that.

[ColbertWatcher]

149. Aww. That would have been funny ...

[ThoughtCriminal]

150. If it was scribbled on construction paper with crayons and fingerpaint

The flat birthers would get excited. These have to be the most gullible and easiest scammed people on Earth (which also explains why so many sponsors still buy time on RW radio and TV).

[tj2001]

154. Book 44B, number 47O44 means 666

If you look at 44B47O44, the 47 tells you to add 4 + 7 = 11 which is really saying add 1 + 1 = 2 to the first 4, the middle 4 and the last 4 and what do you get? 6 6 6.

The B..O means B.O., which means sulfurous odor. One more confirmation that Obama is the devil.

There.

[troubleinwinter]

158. AMAZING radio interview this morning with Orly, the attorney. Here>>>

http://theregulator.net/neonzx/extra/orly-kgo-radio-2009-08-02.mp3

(Orly Taitz has submitted the "Kenyan BC" to the court.)

KGO radio in the San Francisco Bay Area.

How does a person ramp up like this right out of the chute on a Sunday morning, without being frothing-at-the-mouth insane? Well, you'll hear that she is frothing-at-the-mouth insane.

[Botany]

162. She really is nutz or she is being paid to stir up shit.

One of the newspaper w/ his birth announcement in has printed
All information is from the Dept. of Health.

So the newspapers in Hawaii, the Hawaii Dept. of Health, and Obama's Grandparents were
all in planting false information in the newspapers in 1961 so Obama could become President
in 2008.

[DeltaLitProf]

195. She is truly demented

. . . and incapable of speaking coherently. When she's asked a question, she ignores it and just goes on some sort of gibberish rant.

[TankLV]

163. If you read it BACKWARDS it says "Paul is Dead"...

after all - you don't see a picture of him anywhere, do you!

I rest my case...

[BattyDem]

184. LOL!

:toast:

[Iggo]

170. There are at least two huge problems I see.

1. Orly
2. Taitz

[cherish44]

176. Stop it! IT'S REAL!

C'mon, stop being a buzzkill

[Sheepshank]

178. SINCE and IF

SINCE Obama and the rest of his crew have had plenty of time to realize birthers exist. And SINCE Obama and his crew know Birthers are extremists and that a Kenyan Birth certificate had being sought for some time. Then IF Obama was born in Kenya, you think the original certificate would be obtainable? No of course not. Since Obama wasn't born in Kenya there was no need to hide anything. Of course the Kenyan birth certificate is a forgery.

[jberryhill]

183. Have You Seen This One?

They should have gone with that one, instead of this one:

[cliffordu]

185. Nice call on the typeface, I'd have missed that.

[Crabby Appleton]

187. Except it's not Schmutz

[Hissyspit]

189. Schmutz ado about nothing?

[WeDidIt]

190. I was wrong on that one. n/t

[cliffordu]

203. And so was I...Shoulda paid more attentions.....

Ah, well, back to ridiculing the phreepers.

[pnorman]

188. Spotted this on DU earlier:

http://belowthebeltway.com/2009/08/02/the-latest-birther-fantasy-obamas-fake-kenyan-birth-certificate/

pnorman

[mainer]

192. His birth was registered on a Saturday, August 5, 1961.

As Daily Kos pointed out, the Kenyan certificate says Obama was born on August 4, and that his birth was registered on August 5th, 1961. August 5, 1961 was a Saturday, according to the historical calendar. http://arc.id.au/Calendar.html

Government offices would have been closed on Saturday, so how was the birth registered?

[DeltaLitProf]

194. Leonardo Da Vinci put the round seal there

. . . to signify the sacred feminine. Yep, and the three folds, that look like the folds on the Shroud of Turin are obviously pointing to the fact that Christ, Mary Magdelene and their child sailed out of ancient Palestine and lived out their natural lives in the South of France!

[jberryhill]

196. Look Closelier....

[justiceischeap]

197. Another thing... the signature at the bottom

I would think that the "O" would be in perspective with the fold. Instead it looks as though it was "copied" onto the document after the folds were placed.

Secondly, and this has nothing to do with the obvious photoshop job here but what if Obama's birth WAS registered in Kenya? Has anyone asked the question about a Kenyan father "registering" his American born son's birth? Doesn't negate the fact that he was born in Hawaii but maybe it's like wedding announcements. You get married in Vegas but put the announcement in your hometown paper... Just a thought.

[conscious evolution]

204. What is the official language of Nigeria ,Uh .I mean

Kenya?

[L. Coyote]

218. Cut them some slack!! Hey, they HAD TO fake this, so noone would find out Obama

descended from heaven :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: