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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 03:14 PM Original message |
Hugo Chavez begins shut down of 34 radio stations in Venezuela |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
1. and from guardian.co.uk, |
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timeforpeace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 04:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. He's very pissed about not succeeding with Zelaya in Honduras and looking to vent his anger. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 12:41 AM Response to Reply #13 |
62. Or, they might just be taking back their media. |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 08:03 PM Response to Reply #62 |
132. What coup in Ecuador? What the hell are you talking about? |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 10:28 PM Response to Reply #132 |
140. I meant Honduras. |
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tabatha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
2. Not good. |
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lpbk2713 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. I get the impression that the shit is about to hit the fan. |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 03:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. It does look that way. |
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troubledamerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 07:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
126. Chavez won the last election with 65%, verified by President Carter. |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. The article 'forgets' to mention the coup plotters at RCTV... |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Yeah yeah yeah |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 07:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
36. I did not say that. Please read my post before trying to look smart... |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 08:28 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Waah. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 09:09 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. +1 People seem to forget THAT part. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 08:42 AM Response to Reply #47 |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #42 |
77. What has that got to do with the credibility of the article in the OP? |
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troubledamerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 07:03 PM Response to Reply #42 |
118. With a rebuttal like "Waah" your "moral authority juice" is lacking. |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:23 AM Response to Reply #118 |
157. Because the article has nothing to do with RCTV? n/t |
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troubledamerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 07:01 PM Response to Reply #36 |
117. You're right. This article smells. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 03:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Freedom of speech is freedom of speech even if you don't like it. |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 07:23 PM Response to Reply #11 |
37. No, I don't think Fox has a 'right' to spew what they're spewing... |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 09:15 PM Response to Reply #37 |
49. Freedom of speech is not freedom of action |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 11:19 AM Response to Reply #49 |
75. Fox News and talk radio have hosts calling for overthrowing the US government! |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 09:21 PM Response to Reply #37 |
52. The BS spewed by Fox and right-wing hate radio is not comparable to Rwanda |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 11:21 AM Response to Reply #52 |
76. Please read my reply to 'Pavalon' above, so I don't have to repeat myself... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 03:49 AM Response to Reply #52 |
174. Only because our wingnuts don't have a very high death toll. Yet. n/t |
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Rebubula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #37 |
84. Me Thinks... |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 06:35 PM Response to Reply #84 |
110. Fox News hosts are calling for revolution, secession, overthrowing the government and... |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 12:28 AM Response to Reply #37 |
147. Cool. |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 01:09 PM Response to Reply #147 |
168. Can you make your next post coherent, so that I can understand it? |
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Don Hall (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:17 AM Response to Reply #37 |
154. What |
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troubledamerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
119. Freedom of speech does not include inciting assassination, does it, Odin2005? |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 01:18 PM Response to Reply #11 |
170. broadcast licenses are broadcast licenses, not matter how you spin it. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 05:05 PM Response to Reply #3 |
19. You either have freedom of the press--or you don't. If Bush could have done it, |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 09:14 PM Response to Reply #19 |
48. Bush didn't need to shut anything down. His cronies own the corporate media. Still do. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 08:20 AM Response to Reply #19 |
68. what freedom of the press? only if you own it. the owners have the "freedom" to ignore |
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troubledamerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 07:08 PM Response to Reply #19 |
120. Does freedom of the press include inciting assassination? |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
4. President for Life and making damn sure of it. nt |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 07:34 PM Response to Reply #4 |
38. No matter how much of a fascist he needs to be. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
171. except of course he isn't. but carry on. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
7. Cue the apologists for the tyrant in 3... 2... 1... |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Too late. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 04:06 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. ... |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
172. So perhaps you think these articles should be posted without comment? |
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mamaleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
9. Really? And he thinks his people only want one line of thought |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 04:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Authoritarianism isn't just a Right-Wing disease. |
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mamaleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. It's the old idea of the ends justifying the means. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 05:02 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. I like to use the comparison with the One Ring in The Lord of the Rings. |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 05:57 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. apt |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #25 |
87. Because they agree with his goals I suppose, and the end justifies the means |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 06:42 PM Response to Reply #87 |
112. But the means are spun in our media. |
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troubledamerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 07:11 PM Response to Reply #12 |
121. So is your omitting facts of inciting assassinations on public airwaves. It's disheartening. |
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Medusa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 08:37 PM Response to Reply #9 |
44. And Chavez is a sacred cow here |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #44 |
78. And the only accepted source for news on this subject is this one |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
16. Please see my discussion about free speech here and in Venezuela, |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 05:40 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. "psyops/disinformation" should be protected speech. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 08:57 PM Response to Reply #22 |
46. Psy-ops should be protected speech!!!?? Now that's Orwellian. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 09:49 PM Response to Reply #46 |
54. All speech is psy-ops. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 11:15 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Exactly! |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 10:37 AM Response to Reply #22 |
74. It is not the Left in Venezuela but the RIGHT who pose a danger of using the public airwaves |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 03:55 PM Response to Reply #74 |
81. "The Chavez government has harmed no one...".....riiiiiight. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 04:04 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. When one "power entity" is in control here |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 04:20 PM Response to Reply #82 |
88. Interesting points. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 04:25 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. Here's another example of the same bulleria. Do you remember |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 04:33 PM Response to Reply #91 |
96. LOL, hadn't heard that one yet, oddly enough. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 04:38 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. LOL! I know. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 04:46 PM Response to Reply #98 |
101. Five new bases in Columbia? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. And then they sold the incubators to Iran! |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 08:02 PM Response to Reply #103 |
131. Are the using them as centrifuges? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 08:30 PM Response to Reply #131 |
135. I hear the Kurds are on it! |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 09:46 PM Response to Reply #135 |
139. Dayum, are they selling it to religulous cells in the US? |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 04:17 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. With so many not having their paperwork together |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 04:27 PM Response to Reply #86 |
92. The way I understand is a bit like this: |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 04:32 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. May I as where you get most of your information on this subject? |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 04:40 PM Response to Reply #95 |
99. It's a bit of a mashup. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. You should check out Eva Golinger at chavezcode.com |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 05:39 PM Response to Reply #102 |
108. chavezcode.com is site-hosting spam. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 06:12 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. Yikes. Her stuff is reposted to the LatAm forum if you don't want to |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 09:53 AM Response to Reply #99 |
166. Thank you |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #86 |
93. For one thing, because most of these outlets are owned by wealthy people |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 04:34 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. What is your main source for information on this subject. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 04:44 PM Response to Reply #97 |
100. I read just about everything because even hit pieces can give you |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 09:51 AM Response to Reply #100 |
165. Thank you for the information |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 08:12 PM Response to Reply #93 |
134. Venezuela hasn't had a right-wing government in nearly two decades. |
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troubledamerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 07:13 PM Response to Reply #81 |
122. Colombia's Uribe has the Death Squads/mass graves -- not Chavez. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 09:35 PM Response to Reply #122 |
138. Uribe being scum doesn't vindicate Chavez. |
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troubledamerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 10:41 PM Response to Reply #138 |
141. Baloney -- Why is Chavez virtually a household name? But not Uribe? |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 10:48 PM Response to Reply #141 |
142. Spare me. Museveni. |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:12 AM Response to Reply #81 |
173. Chavez did NOT murder anyone, when he was a young officer and participated in |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #74 |
85. My GOD, they're PERFECT! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 04:32 PM Response to Reply #85 |
94. They've made mistakes but they haven't intentionally harmed |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #94 |
130. Two questions: |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 06:39 PM Response to Reply #74 |
111. Aren't you amazed that so many MSM-hating 'liberals' are so eager to believe that same MSM... |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:52 AM Response to Reply #111 |
163. Not amazed, amused. Saddened. Disgusted. |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 01:06 PM Response to Reply #163 |
167. That's actually a good imitation of the baseless accusations from the MSM... |
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wroberts189 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:20 AM Response to Reply #22 |
156. "disinformation" should be protected speech" ...Whaaa ????? |
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Egalitariat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 06:58 PM Response to Reply #16 |
34. Do you think he'll ever declare himself President for Life or something similar? |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 08:34 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. Quietly into the sunset |
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NoPasaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 09:42 AM Response to Reply #43 |
73. First, though, he will outlaw sunsets |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 11:46 PM Response to Reply #73 |
144. Outlawing sunsets would be wrong. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 09:19 PM Response to Reply #34 |
50. 3 ways.. |
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Onceuponalife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 01:06 AM Response to Reply #16 |
63. +1 |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
17. And to think that so many here still defend this Castro wannabe......... |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 05:53 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Mark Penn chumming around with Uribe didn't seem to bother you. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 04:55 PM Response to Reply #17 |
105. And to think so many here just slurp up this right wing cr@p with a spoon. |
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wroberts189 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:24 AM Response to Reply #17 |
158. Then give us some facts ... He is Castro now is he??? nt |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
20. Leave Hugo alone! |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 05:33 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. *snarf* |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #20 |
31. Teh funny! |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 07:35 PM Response to Reply #20 |
39. That's priceless. |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 10:11 PM Response to Reply #20 |
55. Good one! |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 11:51 PM Response to Reply #20 |
59. lol |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
23. I'm always curious why Chavez gets so much attention while someone far worse is rarely brought up. |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 05:59 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. I can answer you only by saying that I did not see a story on Uribe in the news today. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 06:06 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Ever ask yourself why you don't see as many Uribe stories? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 07:37 PM Response to Reply #27 |
40. LOL. We're trying to put five more bases into Colombia |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 07:50 PM Response to Reply #27 |
41. There is one person who could do a great deal to remedy this imbalance on DU |
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troubledamerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 07:22 PM Response to Reply #41 |
124. Uribe is "off-topic"? Are you kidding? |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 10:48 PM Response to Reply #124 |
143. Try to follow along. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 03:59 AM Response to Reply #26 |
175. Ever wondered WHY you always see more articles about Chavez than about Uribe? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 06:13 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Both are authoritarian bastards. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 06:16 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Uribe just doesn't come up, full stop. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 06:22 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Just because the right-wingers whitewash Uribe doesn't excuse Chavez. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 06:47 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Never said it did. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 07:11 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Chavez's supporters disturb me far more than Chavez himself. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #35 |
83. In fact, Chavez "types" are not a dime a dozen in non Western societies. |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 01:26 AM Response to Reply #23 |
64. If Uribe went around making an ass of himself on the teevee every few weeks... |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #64 |
89. Uribe does have a weekly program. Apparently you didn't take the time to know. n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 07:15 PM Response to Reply #23 |
123. Deleted sub-thread |
wroberts189 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:25 AM Response to Reply #23 |
159. paid shills on this board .. thats my theory . nt |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
33. Same shit - different asshole... |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
45. The airwaves belong to everyone, not corporate propaganda. If ABC was as bad as FoxNews |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 09:20 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. To me, the difference in FAUX and ABC is more quantitative than qualitative. Both are |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
53. But the people WAAAAANT this, because they VOOOTED for him! |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
56. Reuters n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 11:38 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Law enforcement is bad when it happens in Venezuela. |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 11:43 AM Response to Reply #58 |
80. DU is living proof, propaganda is very effective and |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
60. Why does shit like this (dictatorial tendencies) always seem to happen after a socialist revolution? |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 12:30 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Because capitalistic forces often control the media. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 07:59 AM Response to Reply #60 |
67. Power corrupts. Authoritarian populists degenerating into tyrants is a common historical theme... |
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wroberts189 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:34 AM Response to Reply #60 |
161. because the conserva whacknuts soon resort to violence ..as is happening here. nt |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 01:29 AM Response to Original message |
65. Low life fascist |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 05:08 PM Response to Reply #65 |
107. Low life fascist government, enforcing their own laws. What a NERVE. |
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troubledamerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 07:24 PM Response to Reply #107 |
125. Excatly. It's OK to incite assassinations on public airwaves, say DUers. |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 01:49 AM Response to Original message |
66. K&R. Here's to hoping this scumbag dies a painful death |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 08:24 AM Response to Reply #66 |
69. K&R to undo the UnRekkk-ing Huguito cadre (for now). n/t |
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BolivarianHero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
70. More neocon spin from the corporate propaganda machine... |
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NoSheep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 08:47 AM Response to Reply #70 |
72. But but but....I'd rather just assume everything I hear is true. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 11:27 AM Response to Reply #72 |
79. I reckon it's better to not assume the news I get from either side is true |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
90. Taking down the Venezuelan equivalent of FOX News and Rush Limbaugh? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #90 |
104. here's an easy exercise: A government with the power to shut down |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 04:55 PM Response to Reply #104 |
106. Yeah. That's called regulation. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 06:49 PM Response to Reply #106 |
113. so you think shutting down media for their pov is about regulation. |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 06:57 PM Response to Reply #113 |
116. Forget it, cali |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 07:29 PM Response to Reply #116 |
128. Yet another scholarly contribution from you, Dreamer. |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #128 |
136. Guess I didn't get my PhD from the University of Hugo Good, USA Bad |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 08:47 PM Response to Reply #136 |
137. Or from anywhere else for that matter. n/t |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 12:26 AM Response to Reply #137 |
145. Care to bet? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 12:27 AM Response to Reply #145 |
146. In that case, you should demand a refund. |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 12:31 AM Response to Reply #146 |
148. Maybe I'll work for Hugo instead |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 07:29 PM Response to Reply #113 |
127. And what is your evidence that happened? Thanks, cali! |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #113 |
169. Radio Libre des Mille Collines also had a 'pov'... |
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wroberts189 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:17 AM Response to Reply #104 |
155. Apples and oranges ..lies versus truth. nt |
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wroberts189 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:11 AM Response to Reply #90 |
151. Cheers to that. :) nt |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
114. "failed to comply with regulations" |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
115. Can he just kill all the coup plotters already? Why is he beating around the bush with this shit? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 07:36 PM Response to Reply #115 |
129. I don't know. Law and shit. |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 08:04 PM Response to Reply #115 |
133. According to his backers, something like 40% of the population of Venezuela... |
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wroberts189 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:13 AM Response to Reply #115 |
152. He does not have a Yoo or a Rove or a Cheney to. Like we did :) . /sarc nt |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:07 AM Response to Original message |
149. The trouble with anti-Chavez posters is that they can never come up with any |
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wroberts189 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:16 AM Response to Reply #149 |
153. It amazes me the anti-Chazez posters here. I smell money. nt |
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wroberts189 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:09 AM Response to Original message |
150. Good riddance to hate radio. Lets do the same here. nt |
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wroberts189 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:29 AM Response to Original message |
160. I got an idea ..lets shutdown Clear Channel and the rest of the .. |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:52 AM Response to Reply #160 |
162. My sentiments exactly! It's time we did this HERE--pulled their goddamned licenses |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 03:02 AM Response to Reply #160 |
164. If bush had his way...all stations would be clear channel. |
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