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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 06:59 PM Original message |
It makes no sense for any health plan to not pay 100% of the cost of an abortion |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
1. health insurance companies are political |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
2. i agree entirely. |
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iamtechus (868 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
3. It's an elective procedure |
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FLDCVADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 07:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Exactly |
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dem629 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
36. I think that's fair, and it addresses the medical necessity cases. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:27 PM Response to Reply #4 |
44. What in the world is the matter with you people. |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 10:43 PM Response to Reply #44 |
59. Off point. |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 07:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. True but this one saves the plan a lot of money. |
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FLDCVADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 07:34 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I thought we were opposed |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 07:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. You do not want premium and/or tax dollars used wisely and efficiently? |
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FLDCVADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 07:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Don't put words in my mouth |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:16 PM Response to Reply #5 |
34. Knocking off old folks would do the same. nt |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:23 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. There's a difference if the legality of that, now isn't there? |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:37 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. Just trying to be practical like you. nt |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 07:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Who are you to decide whether a woman takes the risk of death or |
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FLDCVADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 07:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. No one here is making that decision |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 07:48 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. But you are seem to support a one time procedure that prevents much greater costs |
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FLDCVADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 07:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Yes |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 07:53 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. So no preventative care? No annual exams without something necessitating it? |
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FLDCVADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 07:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. I see those as medically necessary |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 07:57 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. No, people elect to have a cancer screen. People elect to have blood tests to check for things |
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FLDCVADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 07:58 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. We'll just agree to disagree |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:58 PM Response to Reply #21 |
52. The mileage of so many women varied that we got Roe. |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 07:53 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. No, I'm talking about the decision to take that risk...you can't force that. |
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FLDCVADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 07:55 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. No one is n/t |
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dem629 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:22 PM Response to Reply #17 |
39. So rape and incest cases. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 08:03 PM Response to Reply #9 |
22. Absolutely |
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FLDCVADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 08:07 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Would you agree that not every abortion |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 08:09 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. I'd agree that |
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dem629 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:18 PM Response to Reply #9 |
35. That's different. If a doctor decides there's a danger to the mother. |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:26 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. Every single pregnancy can end in death or permenent injury. |
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dem629 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:27 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Right. And if a doctor has a patient in danger, that's when it becomes a medical necessity. |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:36 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. You are for forced pregnancy then. |
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dem629 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:42 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. I've never been an advocate of forcing people to have sex. |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 10:54 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. If a woman is pregnant and does not want to be because of the risk |
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dem629 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 11:42 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. Whether a woman CAN do that is a different topic. |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 08:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
24. Most pregnancies are elective, too. |
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FLDCVADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 08:11 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Yes they are |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 08:12 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. That is not the point -- and you know it. |
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FLDCVADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 08:24 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Sorry, but I'm not a mind reader |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:15 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Just follow your own logic. |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 11:15 PM Response to Reply #26 |
65. Once pregnant, proper medical care including the option for termination is necessary. |
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FLDCVADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 08:11 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Yes they are |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 08:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
29. As a federal employee during the Reagan/Bush I years, my health plan did not cover abortions but |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
41. Women's health is not "elective". |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 10:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
62. Well doctor, your license should be revoked |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 11:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
63. Good thinking. |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
11. better then paying for social services for a live child or toddler? |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I didn't say they should promote it, just pay for it if that is the decision of the insured. Makes |
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FLDCVADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 07:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. It only makes zero sense |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
45. Wrong. It makes zero sense if you think that women's health care |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
30. Since it is fairly rare |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
37. If it covers birth, it should cover abortion |
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dem629 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
38. Wait 'til Glenn Beck reads THIS thread! |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
47. Abortion is at times a medical necessity... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:40 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. You want to punish sexually active women with pregnancy? |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 10:00 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. that is not what I said.. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 10:06 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. If? Do you really understand what you are proposing? |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:40 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. There is no way to justify not paying for them to shareholders or taxpayers |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
55. In Canada and Western European w/ national healthcare coverage, abortion is covered. Here's an |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 10:56 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. ***Thank you*** |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
56. How's come VIAGRA is covered by most insurance plans, yet contraception and abortion often AREN'T? |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
57. I completely agree with you. |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
58. As a man, I trust women to make choices regarding their health and their bodies. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
64. My Catholic schoolteacher insurance plan didn't. |
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ControlledDemolition (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
67. The Republicans would be fine with abortion as long as it was the result of a Predator strike... |
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