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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 07:19 PM
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Parents opting out of Obama speech invited to Gattitown
http://www.kentucky.com/latest_news/story/925723.html

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Call it the Pizza Protest.

A Lexington woman has established a Facebook group urging parents who are either keeping their children out of school today or pulling them out before a scheduled TV speech by President Barack Obama to join her for lunch at Gattitown on Nicholasville Road.

The event, listed at http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=125720529577, is being promoted by Lexington businesswoman Mica Sims as a chance for parents who object to the Obama school speech to have lunch and socialize.

The lunch is at noon, when Obama is scheduled to make his televised speech. Fayette county schools spokeswoman Lisa Deffendall said that since the speech will only be 15 minutes and the school district is providing an alternate activity for students, being absent from school for the whole day will be considered an unexcused absence.

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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 07:21 PM
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1. They worship ignorance and hate...hope their lunch gives them the watery shits !!
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maglatinavi Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 05:16 AM
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40. Lunch ...
"Off with thier heads, said the Queen!!!" (Alice in Wonderland) Actually, they don't have much of their brain but rather empty heads!!!:banghead:
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 07:23 PM
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2. "to have lunch and socialize"

Goddam socialists.

:grr::grr::grr::grr::grr:
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 07:32 PM
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8. Sounds like indoctrination.
Such hypocrites.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 08:36 PM
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35. They don't serve Arugula at Gattitown
So it's ok. Good old Amurican CALORIES and grease.
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 07:23 PM
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3. being new to the school system, is any absense unexcused even if the parents decide to keep kid home
:shrug:
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 07:26 PM
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4. The comments are interesting -
I'm glad to see so many intelligent, supportive people making their positions known.

And that woman who came up with this idea - I trust she's picking up the tab for everyone. When I invite someone to lunch, I am the hostess, and the check is my responsibility.

I hope she gets a big turnout and goes bust having to pay for it. Little moron....................
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 07:27 PM
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5. They used that same Gattitown for the Glenn Beck protest
When Beck was calling for his revolution, that was one of the meeting places in Kentucky! Here it says she is part of the Tea Bagger movement http://www.jonathangaby.com/index.html/tag/mica-sims/

It also says her husband has several small businesses, I wish I knew what THEY were so I would NEVER give him any business at all.

Creeps! This is all an extension of the Tea Baggers which is just an extension of hate talk radio and Fox News. This is all just organized chaos in our country, by the worst elements possible.

It made me sick that Fayette Co schools caved and permitted an "alternative activity".

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FLDCVADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 07:29 PM
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6. Why do you have a problem
with an alternative activity? I can see being annoyed if it isn't shown at all, but why should you care that parents have a choice as to whether or not their children see it?
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 07:36 PM
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9. I don't want these dickwads to get their way
Edited on Mon Sep-07-09 07:39 PM by get the red out
These pieces of ignorant shit are ruining our country and I give a damn that they always get their way by screaming. The sons of bitches need to STFU and deal with the real world for a change. Fuck them!!!!

I am sick of taking it, giving in to them at every turn. Putting up with these loudmouths getting their way in everything is why we have the problems we do, they need to be told they don't get their way, if their kids can't be permitted to hear the President then their kids can get an unexcused absence, end of story.

Let me tell you also, in Kentucky school systems, 40 years ago my parents would have been told to stick it if I couldn't hear the President, I could stay home. But people weren't near the fools they are now thanks to Glenn Beck, Rush Pill-head Limpballs, and the rest. Now they yell on cue and everyone jumps to passify them like a crying baby.

It is fucking time to potty train these pieces of shit~!~

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FLDCVADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 07:38 PM
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10. I guess we differ on what we consider "giving in"
To me, not showing the speech is "giving in". Showing it but allowing opt-outs isn't "giving in", to me. YMMV.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 07:42 PM
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12. It is acting like they have a point
when they are allowed to "opt out" it is living in fear of them yelling louder than the normal parents that just go to work and try to take care of their families and want their kids to have a chance. It is giving their faux protests meaning and value that it doesn't have beyond Glenn Beck's ratings and the money his corporate masters bring in due to his success in training people to go against their own needs.

It legitimizes the completely illegitimate out of fear of yelling and sniveling. That's how we got George Bush and Dick Cheney, by them dragging Clinton through the mud because we acted like they had a point, like their views were anything but a sniveling diversion.
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FLDCVADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 07:44 PM
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14. We'll just agree to disagree
I think that ALL parents have the right to opt their children out of certain things at school, whether I would do it myself or not.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 08:36 PM
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36. Should the kids also be allowed to opt out of Geography lessons?
Math?

Spelling?

Science?

I like the supt in CT who told his parents yes we are showing the speech and it relates to our curriculum. Period. No opt out even mentioned.
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FLDCVADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 07:39 PM
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11. And by your standard
Kids that don't come to school because it isn't being shown should also be given an unexcused absence.

That's why I think it's best to show the speech, but offer alternative activities.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 07:44 PM
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13. Yes, they should suffer that consequence
Edited on Mon Sep-07-09 07:44 PM by get the red out
because they are being raised by fools. Most certainly, their should be consequences to this foolishness because the consequences to our society are horrible. We see how bad it is because we have pretended like these brain-dead Fox News listeners have a point and have been appeased for years now.
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FLDCVADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 07:45 PM
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16. So long as we're clear
One standard for people with whom you agree (excused absences for disagreeing with a policy to not show the speech) and a different standard for those with whom you disagree (unexcused absences for disagreeing with a policy to show the speech).

Smells like hypocrisy to me.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 08:11 PM
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23. Who said two standards?
My parents wouldn't have been able to prevent me from hearing Ronald Reagan, much as they disagreed with him. I see absolutely no double-standard in this.


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FLDCVADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 08:13 PM
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25. Fine
So if a school is not showing the speech, do believe that children that stay home to watch should have an unexcused absence as well?
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 08:16 PM
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28. I imagine I misread what you said
All schools should show the speech, first of all, or they aren't a school to begin with.

Screw your little double standard display, you know what we are fucking talking about. It is fussing around and bending over backward for these freaks that has gotten us where we are so have your little play time on DU. All this fighting we do on here just makes these conservative fuck wads stronger.

Screw them.


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FLDCVADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 08:54 AM
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44. The hysteria over this issue
On both sides, would be funny if it weren't so sad.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 08:37 PM
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37. Those kids should not be counted absent because watching the speech is educational
Going to lunch with a bunch of teabagging moms is not.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 08:04 PM
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21. This is hysterical, you'll fight for the nutballs
right to not see the speech, but not the right of the kids in your own school district to see it.
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FLDCVADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 08:11 PM
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24. You're mistaken on a couple of counts
First, my kids are in Catholic schools, so it wasn't a district decision. The diocese (Arlington, VA) gave individual schools the choice to show it or not to show it. My kids' schools (K-8 & high school) chose not to show it. The high school gave an explanation, the primary school didn't. As I really don't care one way or the other, I'm not going to fight for it because it doesn't matter to me whether or not it is shown in school. My kids can watch it tomorrow when they come home, if they want to.

Second, I'm not fighting for the nutballs as you call them to not have to see it. I'm simply saying that I don't see why any parent wants to force someone else's child to see something that the child's own parents don't want them to see.

Finally, I'm calling for consistency rather than hypocrisy when it comes to punishing students that aren't in school. Regardless of whether or not a school chooses to show the speech, repercussions for keeping a child home, if there are any, should be consistent. Calling for an unexcused absence if a child stays home to avoid the speech but demanding an excused absence if a child stays home to watch the speech is hypocrisy, pure and simple.

You may be a fan of hypocrisy, but I'm not.

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 08:14 PM
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27. What if John Boehner asked for equal time..?
Would you support it then?
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 08:17 PM
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29. As long as they would show both
I would have to, because I watched Ronald Reagan and look how I turned out ;) I am very liberal.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 08:21 PM
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32. I was responding to FLDCVADem...
I agree with you. Also, I think sandnsea was responding to FLDCVAdem also? You have more in agreement with you than you think. :-)
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 08:33 PM
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34. Thank you
I thought I was just labeled "hysterical" again because I have passion for something. Sometimes I think liberals are supposed to just intellectualize and not feel.

I get even worse watching basketball, LOL.

I passionately care about the laying down we have done in order to appease the extremist right. Not the normal right, but the extremists. It just hasn't worked to submit every time they yell about something, we just keep on having to give up more of our civic mindedness, which I was raised with, to keep them happy. It is spiraling out of control and it has to stop. Limbaugh and company have orchestrated much of this crying fire in this crowded theater we all share and masking it as freedom of speech. That freedom being bought and distributed by more money than a thousand thousand good letter to the editor writers in our nation even have. Speech that none of us can match on scale, which is nothing but pure propaganda. Now that speech has demanded that the parents who follow it make sure their children not be exposed to the elected President of the United States. All the letters to the editor that could be written with average citizen's speech couldn't have orchestrated this in a 100 years. But we give in to this bought and paid for propaganda every time and pretend it is no different than a column in a local newspaper at most.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 08:42 PM
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38. Are you a big 'Cat fan?
me too! :-)
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 05:41 AM
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41. LOL, Insane!
Edited on Tue Sep-08-09 05:42 AM by get the red out
I got pretty upset last week over the nuts giving Coach Cal all that crap over sending the jersey to the President.

My avatar is a growling Wildcat :7
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 08:20 PM
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31. Private vs Public
Big difference, any school publicly funded should have to show it. I absolutely won't try to dictate what a private school does. People pay for that so they should get it.
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FLDCVADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 08:51 AM
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42. I disagree
That all public schools should have to show it. I think it should be left up to the districts to handle as they see fit, given that circumstances can vary from district to district or even from school to school.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 09:00 AM
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45. Sorry, public schools public President
And he is the President of the entire United States of America last time I checked. Either these schools teach civics or they do not. They should not be receiving any public funds if they will not act in the public good.

I will not accept that a Democratic President is not my President because I live in a state that voted for that fossil McCain in the general election. It doesn't work that way.

Private schools are on their own.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 09:00 AM
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46. Sorry, public schools public President
And he is the President of the entire United States of America last time I checked. Either these schools teach civics or they do not. They should not be receiving any public funds if they will not act in the public good.

I will not accept that a Democratic President is not my President because I live in a state that voted for that fossil McCain in the general election. It doesn't work that way.

Private schools are on their own.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 08:29 PM
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33. If the school won't show the speech
and the parents want the child to see it along with the rest of the country, they've got no choice but to keep their child home. That's a huge difference than a parent who keeps their child home when they can simply tell the teacher to send their child to the library during the speech.

But since you are willing to pay money to send your children to a school that so blatantly disrespects the country, and not say a word about it to them, I can see it's useless to try to point out the real hypocrisy here.

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FLDCVADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 08:52 AM
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43. That's laughable
Just because a school won't show a Presidential speech, that school is disrespecting the country?

Forget hypocrisy, your problem is hyperbole.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 08:13 PM
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26. How did I say that?
I said these kids should either see the speech or get an unexcused absence, the kids of normal people will be at school seeing the speech.

It is fucking hard to tell what side some liberals are even on. I think most of you would be happier if a republican were in office to be honest. So just keep kissing up to the nuts out there and attacking other liberals, whatever gets it done for you.
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Tanuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 07:44 PM
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15. One of the businesses is an alcohol-free bar they are about to open
called "Bar none." I googled Mica and found the twit's twitter site, where she mentions it. Her actual website is too repulsive to link to.
http://twitter.com/MicaSims
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 07:46 PM
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17. Thank you
I will have to remember that and tell other people not to go there. I might have accidentally gone there since I don't drink. It is good to know.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 08:19 PM
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30. you can probably look up the name of their businesses on the
Edited on Mon Sep-07-09 08:29 PM by ellenfl
kentucky secretary of state, corporate division website. we can look up corporations, dbas, partnerships, etc., here.

try here . . . http://apps.sos.ky.gov/business/obdb/%28S%28zaycjh55rcmrbm55n1x03w45%29%29/offsearch.aspx

i read some of the comments on the facebook page, apparently some parents will go to the lunch for the 'comradery' and to avoid president obama's 'socialistical' message. those parents should not have skipped school. :eyes:

ellen fl
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pimpbot Donating Member (770 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 07:31 PM
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7. Someone should go there and bring a laptop
Stream the President's address live and blare the volume. All you need is to find some free wifi or use your cell phone.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 07:47 PM
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18. +1
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 07:47 PM
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19. Gattitown on Nicholasville Rd, just look for the fiery cross in the parking lot. n/t
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Robber M Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 07:59 PM
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20. Quick! Somebody pour chlorine into the gene pool!
EXTRA-STRENGTH!
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bugfragged Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 08:08 PM
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22. They'll be drinking BecKKK kool-aid at the pizza parlor...
Edited on Mon Sep-07-09 08:09 PM by bugfragged
...while ranting about Obama's indoctrination.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 09:18 PM
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39. Terrific putdown in the Lexington Herald:
X wrote on 09/07/2009 09:07:56 PM:

Is the irony of this event lost upon you? Let me make a suggestion. This “protest” would be much more effective if it was centered on some sort of thought-provoking, stimulating event such as a lecture, a trip to a museum, or some sort of volunteer activity.

Instead, you are allowing your children to miss school so that they can stuff themselves with greasy pizza and play whac-a-mole.

But my hat is off! You have managed to create an event that simultaneously and vividly illustrates (celebrates?) the two most pervasive stereotypes of Kentuckians: 1) an abhorrence of education and 2) a propensity toward obesity.

Great job!!!
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 10:21 AM
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47. It would be funny though, if Gattitown had the speach on their TV's.
LOL

first lull teh stupids with pizza and soda, then turn on the tv.

teh stupids will be too tired to leave, let alone get up and ask to change the channel. LOL
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