Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Composting is about to become mandatory in San Francisco.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 06:19 AM
Original message
Composting is about to become mandatory in San Francisco.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/09/08/BAR419IP8A.DTL&tsp=1

San Franciscans have six more weeks before they're required to toss their food scraps into green composting bins or face a fine - but apparently all the trash talk coming out of City Hall is already having an effect.

Just a few months ago, the city Department of the Environment was doling out five to 10 green composting bins a day; now that number is up to 130. The amount of composted material coming out of San Francisco is up 15 percent over the past few months - now totaling 480 tons every day.

"There's a real sense of urgency now," said Jared Blumenfeld, director of the Environment Department. "We never heard from these folks and, suddenly, they're saying, 'How do you do it?' "

Each day, Blumenfeld's department sends five or six people schooled in composting to apartment buildings, homes and businesses to show people how to get started - and to help them find the space for another bin in this tightly packed city. In some particularly crowded neighborhoods like Chinatown, homeowners are already banding together to share a bin.



This seems to be a pretty clever idea.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 06:26 AM
Response to Original message
1. I miss living in San Francisco.
Ah the days of my youth. ;)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 07:43 AM
Response to Original message
2. When I lived in Virginia Beach,
composting was mandated as far as grass clippings. You put your cut grass into clear plastic lawn bags and it was taken to a composting heap near the dump. Christmas trees were buried there as well. After a couple of years, the compost was made available free to anyone who wanted to bring a truck and fill it up. Black gold.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 09:36 AM
Response to Reply #2
12. That's a great idea.
Unfortunately SF doesn't have room for a giant compost heap.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 07:58 AM
Response to Original message
3. Where does the compost go?
In other words, what business is profiting from the mandated free labor of San Franciscans?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:02 AM
Response to Reply #3
4. Alternately considered, what planet is the chief beneficiary of
a more involved and aware citizenry?


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:13 AM
Response to Reply #3
5. You put it in a bin. It gets taken to a composting facility, composted, then sold on...
...for agricultural uses. The system pays for itself and reduces landfill waste.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:14 AM
Response to Reply #5
6. Is the composting facility run by the city? Does the money return to the city?
I like the idea. Don't get me wrong. I just wonder about where the money goes.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:19 AM
Response to Reply #6
8. No, it's not run by the city.
Edited on Wed Sep-09-09 08:21 AM by Cessna Invesco Palin
Where have you ever seen a city that runs its own waste management programs top to bottom? It's always contracted out.

Uncomposted food scraps are not a saleable commodity. Recology takes the scraps, composts them, then sells the compost to support their own operations.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:22 AM
Response to Reply #8
9. And makes a profit on it.
So, the company is getting free raw materials from the labor of people, stuff it doesn't have to collect, and then it sells it at a profit. OK.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:28 AM
Response to Reply #9
10. Jesus, Nikki. Get a clue here. You need shoes, you pay some store for
the pair you need, you buy 'em and take 'em home and wear 'em to work, to shop, to play, to travel, to get around.

If you want you can butcher animals of the prairie and woods and use their skins to make your own shoes.

You appear to suggest that intelligent recycling is bad if a profit is generated in its implementation. It seems to me that it is an essential service. Human mammals need to recycle or we will be swimming in our own garbage in no time flat.

San Francisco, not surprisingly, is WAY ahead of most of the rest of the nation in many things, this included.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:31 AM
Response to Reply #9
11. Yes it does have to collect it.
That's what the company does. It collects materials of no saleable value and makes them into something saleable. Would you have a problem if landscaping companies began composting grass clippings collected during their work? Would you demand to be paid for your grass clippings?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 08:19 AM
Response to Original message
7. Those damn Liberals!
They just ruin everything they lay their hands on! What a Sosholist Commie Pinko Brainwashing Afro-Leninist Muslin Furrener and GAY thing to do!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed May 01st 2024, 02:29 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC