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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 08:02 AM Original message |
Some right-wingers actually think whites did blacks a favor by bringing them |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
1. The White Man's Burden |
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boobooday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
2. The same mindset that says |
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meegbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
3. How about a list of these "some right-wingers" |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 09:11 AM Response to Reply #3 |
25. Pat Buchanan is one |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 08:12 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Que? |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 08:19 AM Response to Reply #4 |
13. Why are whites suddenly supposed to be coddled? |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 08:23 AM Response to Reply #4 |
16. I'm white. I see racism. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 08:28 AM Response to Reply #4 |
18. Oh Noes!! We can't have defensive whites. |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 09:17 AM Response to Reply #4 |
29. We can't have whites being more defensive, now, can we? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 09:19 AM Response to Reply #4 |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 09:45 AM Response to Reply #31 |
41. +1 |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 09:28 AM Response to Reply #4 |
34. can we have that in English please. |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 09:30 AM Response to Reply #4 |
35. Do you feel that discussing racism makes whites |
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ret5hd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 09:39 AM Response to Reply #4 |
37. Just be quiet because the whites will be defensive??? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 09:44 AM Response to Reply #4 |
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rvablue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 10:16 AM Response to Reply #4 |
47. God forbid! Maybe President Obama should have apologized to Congressman Wilson |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 11:04 AM Response to Reply #4 |
56. The point is that if they are defensive, they are WRONG. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 11:05 AM Response to Reply #4 |
57. WHAT. THE. FUCK. DO. YOU. MEAN??? |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
65. Let me get this straight |
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Hansel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 02:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
71. Self delete |
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Hansel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 02:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
72. Oh please. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
5. A lot were losers in tribal battles and sold by the winners. Sucked any way you look at it. nt |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #5 |
74. And they had no idea what kind of slavery they were selling |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 06:29 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. Who's saying whites did blacks a favor bringing them here? Not I. |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
6. Probably because they think things we so terrible in Africa. n/t |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 08:17 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. that's what their warped thinking is |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 09:44 AM Response to Reply #6 |
40. They may have convinced themselves that this was true |
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #40 |
53. No one seems to talk about that... all the slaves were not from Africa. |
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ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
7. because this is the greatest country on earth!! and who wouldn't want to come here.... |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
9. plus our white ancestors taught them about JEEEESUS. |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 09:14 AM Response to Reply #9 |
26. One of my former supervisors said that, after she watched "Amistad." |
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MisterP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #9 |
73. and wasn't the kingdom of Kongo largely Christian after 1500? |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
11. I actually heard a black person say this on some radio program on NPR. |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 09:07 AM Response to Reply #11 |
24. I'm sure he's not doing that... |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 09:35 AM Response to Reply #24 |
36. He did seem sincere but what I hate about the argument is that it plays right into the hands |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 10:21 AM Response to Reply #36 |
48. I see your point too. |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 09:53 AM Response to Reply #11 |
42. He knows the African nation that his ancestors came from? |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 11:03 AM Response to Reply #42 |
55. I really don't know. I just heard him on an NPR program a while back. |
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yawnmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 02:17 PM Response to Reply #42 |
70. Have you thought about genetic tests? |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 05:18 PM Response to Reply #70 |
77. Definitely. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 10:29 AM Response to Reply #11 |
50. I very much doubt he was a slave |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 11:13 AM Response to Reply #11 |
58. Without understanding that the internicine warfare that was promoted |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
12. Direct comparison of living standards U.S. vs most of Africa |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 08:21 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. I will if it ever comes up again. Haven't seen him since the last presidential election. |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
66. They never seem to consider that perhaps the continent of Africa may have ended up just as |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 06:39 PM Response to Reply #66 |
80. So past european colonialism is the right's fault? |
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Burma Jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 08:20 AM Response to Original message |
14. I guess Slaves escaped the brutality imposed by Europeans as they divvied up Africa..... |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
17. I've heard this one too |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 08:36 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. not only brought them to America, but gave them a place to live and work to do |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 09:17 AM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Yep. And that most were treated well... |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
19. Originally had was b/c of Christianity: slavery + enternal life > freedom + eternal damnation |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
21. My mom was telling me that she read a book that made such an *argument* |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 10:03 AM Response to Reply #21 |
44. What was her response when you "educated" her |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #44 |
64. I haven't "educated" her yet |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
22. Remember Barbara Bush's comment about |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
23. That is lame - They were enslaved before they were brought to the US |
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Fuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
27. So, the holocaust worked out ok because it lead to Israel becoming a country? |
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subcomhd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:26 PM Response to Reply #27 |
68. perfect nt |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
30. Here's the source: BecKKK's hero, SKOUSEN, wingnut hallucinator |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
32. Did you ask him to explain his reasoning? |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
33. I have heard Pat Buchanan |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 10:12 AM Response to Reply #33 |
46. Someone should remind Pat Buchanan |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #46 |
59. That can't be right - |
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tjwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
38. Righties think insurance co's are doing them favors by trying to kill health reform. |
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Tommy_Carcetti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
43. I think South Park threw in a line to that effect in one of their episodes. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
45. "Collective praise" is the logical correllary to "collective guilt" |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 10:38 AM Response to Reply #45 |
51. On collective guilt... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 11:48 AM Response to Reply #51 |
60. I don't understand how one can internalize and individualize collective |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #60 |
67. Well, it actually started when I was a child |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 04:51 PM Response to Reply #60 |
75. Being born with guilt |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:09 PM Response to Reply #51 |
61. Not all ex slaves took their master's surname. |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:38 PM Response to Reply #61 |
69. Yep, I found that out too. |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 05:44 PM Response to Reply #69 |
78. I will send you an IM. |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
49. I have to wonder if they also believe they did a favor |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 10:42 AM Response to Reply #49 |
52. I once lived with a man who was from the rez in Montreal |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 10:48 AM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Not that I have ever heard. |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
62. I loved how Lionel Jefferson put it to Archie Bunker on TV when he expressed a similar sentiment. |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
63. I first heard this as a kid in the late 50s. |
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RagAss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
76. Those go beyond fighting words.....way beyond. |
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Saphire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
81. so i guess the Irish famine was a GOOD thing.....after all, it caused ME to be here. |
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