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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 12:46 PM Original message |
What is the difference between Walmart and Ikea from a smallbusinesskiller POV? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
1. The idea that there are "nice" corporations proceeds from a fundamental misunderstanding... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. lol |
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HopeHoops (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
2. Oh, there are a lot of differences. |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 06:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
56. That sounds like a pretty good summary. |
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quiller4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
3. Ikea treats employees better than Walmart and doesn't seek |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I've got your storage system right here. |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. I call foul! |
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DKRC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 03:24 PM Response to Reply #16 |
50. Amateur! |
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Yunomi (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 04:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
51. OMG!! How did you know? nt |
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PM Martin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
5. Ikea gets their goods from more than one place |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
7. Ikea kills small furniture businesses... WalMart kills ALL small businesses |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. lol. nt |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 12:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. good point One WM can kill a grocery, a couple of delis, a tire dealer, a hardware store, etc... |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 12:59 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Either you believe in "competition" or you don't. This "third way" crap is self-contradictory. nt |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #13 |
28. Not entirely. Take beer in Florida. All stores pay the same wholesale for beer. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:42 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. That's called "price control"--that's the opposite of the "free market". nt |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. Not exactly. Busch doesn't have to charge the same as Miller. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. That's the government setting prices. Again, the absolute converse of the "free market". |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #7 |
30. But does it, really? |
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haele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
49. Actually, Ikea does not kill small furniture businesses - |
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tosh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 04:44 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. LOL @ "the high drama of flouncing and slamming." |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
8. Anything to do with this? |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #8 |
19. Hadn't seen that yet, but it's pretty good. nt |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
37. So this might just be related to the Israeli boycott of IKEA... |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. no, my thread came from reading the catalogue while on the toilet, not thinking about Israel |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
10. Those icky poor people don't tend to shop at Ikea, so it's cooler |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. "Maybe people who work at Whole Foods DON'T WANT insurance?" |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. Where do you live? I've been to Ikea once, on a Saturday, and had to rub up against the hoi polloi |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 02:37 PM Response to Reply #21 |
47. My sister goes for the coffee and cheap food. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
14. Ikea is the only known (to me) source of genuine scandinavian |
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Ruby the Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
15. Walmart hasn't invested $50mm for green technology grants? |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. walmart goes green |
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mntleo2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
17. Ikea is union and they share their profits with workers |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Ikea retail workers are unionized? That's news to me! nt |
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quiller4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 06:01 PM Response to Reply #25 |
54. Teamsters represent Ikea workers in stores and warehouses in Canada |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:15 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. I realize you're speaking amongst ourselves. |
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mntleo2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #26 |
36. Point taken and ... |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 06:39 PM Response to Reply #36 |
57. Vacation time gets longer with seniority in most corporations, and some positions start higher. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #26 |
48. Because "quality of life" is only important for rich people. |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 06:30 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. Like most things, it's about approach and timing. |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:47 PM Response to Reply #17 |
38. Are IKEA workers union anywhere in America? I don't shop at IKEA here just because they're awesome |
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LibertyLover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
18. IKEA works with small and medium-sized producers |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:42 PM Response to Reply #18 |
34. And don't we all have 16 foot ceilings? |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
20. Are there "small businesses" that sell cheap modular furniture? |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:40 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. There have been. They came and went. |
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cbdo2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
22. I just don't like Ikea for using non-standard screw sizes and stuff sometimes. |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:16 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. They use standard metric sizes like all the world except the United States |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Metric is a fad. Imperial measures rule. |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #29 |
46. Not even the UK uses Imperial measures any more |
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tosh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:58 PM Response to Reply #22 |
44. Doh! Get the Fixa kit for $6-7. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
24. Well, it goes sort of like this... |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
31. IKEA has a unique and exclusive product line .... |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
35. How many Walmarts are there? How many Ikeas? I am ten minutes from a Walmart. I am 5 hours from an |
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tosh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:56 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. That's a major difference that I was about to post. |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. I think I read that they build one Walmart for every 50,000 people. |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
43. ok, who unec'd me? Sven? Vast at yew? |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
53. There is a difference, it seems |
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