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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 03:16 PM Original message |
I think I Overestimated the Democratic Party's Abilities. |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
1. Don't be deceived by the Potemkin Protests |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
2. There is so much misinformation swirling around it wouldn't matter what anyone |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
3. People mobilized and I've seen it proved time and again at town halls, |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
4. I think you nailed it with short attention span. nt |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 04:27 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Nope |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
5. Part of the problem: Many Dems. are corporate whoring Republican Lites |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Well has 6 years before he has a primary challenger |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 07:26 AM Response to Reply #5 |
28. +1 |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
6. it's more a matter of underestimating the right wing's influence; the election was too predictable. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
7. Don't blame the Obama Supporters |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
8. It might be learned helplessness |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 04:22 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. See my post above |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 05:09 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. What are effective actions? |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 05:18 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Everyone knows Beck is crazy even the GOP leadership |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 05:23 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Beck also honestly believes the nonsense he's spewing |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Its the division between social dominators and right wing authoritarians |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
10. It won't change until enough realize it's The People VS Power, not just 'their' side of Power |
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bobburgster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
13. Change can still come, we just need to go back to work on it. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
17. It's not their abilities, it's their agenda. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
18. No sigh of relief for me.. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
20. I feel that lots of liberals are leaving because the health care debate is pushing them out. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
21. It became corporatist after the election of Clinton. |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
22. Maybe you underestimated the role independents played in gaining majority |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 07:32 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. I don't know. It was the liberals and progressives who |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 08:33 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Your welcome to your opinion |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-21-09 09:04 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. They are only critical to win because the US population is full |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 06:23 AM Response to Original message |
26. The left wing of the party turned on Obama and the Democratic Party day after inauguration day |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 07:21 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Why support someone or something when it is clear they are kicking you to the curb? |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 07:26 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. You can't tell you are being kicked to the curb within days of inauguration |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 07:40 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Sure you can.. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 07:46 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. What about FISA? There's more misinformation about it than information here |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 08:17 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. It's quite clear what telco immunity was all about.. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 08:03 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. he stood with Warren against my family |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 08:21 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. He didn't just stand with Warren.. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 08:34 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Not only are there great religious figures he could have invited |
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TransitJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 08:13 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Retaining Gates as SecDef = being kicked to the curb |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 07:32 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Why wouldn't the left wing turn on Obama the day after the election? |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
36. I think you just overestimated the Democratic Party's motivation. nt |
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