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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 12:56 PM
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LIMBOsevic steals his content from Heritage Fnd, "Secret Plan to Ram Through Health Care Reform"
I thought he was SO original and that ALL other outlets got THEIR "show prep" from him!1

In 2 minutes in the car I heard him promo-ing his exposing the Dems' secret plan, and I got to where I was going and didn't hear it. Googling his name and "secret plan health care" gave it right up!1

Btw, I hope it's TRUE!1

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http://www.aipnews.com/talk/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=8204&posts=5

Passing a Shell of A Bill: Congress' Secret Plan to Ram Through Health Care Reform


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Heritage Foundtation
Sept. 22, 2009
Brian Darling

With the (Alleged) President and Congress’s plan to pass comprehensive health care reform reaching increasingly high levels of unpopularity, and reconciliation becoming an impediment, the leadership of the Senate is rumored to be preparing a new secret plan to railroad the bill through the Senate in record time by using a seldom used parliamentary procedure.

Their plan is to proceed to a House passed non-health care bill to provide a shell of legislation to give Obamacare a ride to the House then to the President’s desk. Sound confusing? We lay out the steps below, but essentially the Senate would pass health care reform as an amendment to a completely unrelated bill so the Senate and House could act quickly and without further debate. Even worse? Nobody really knows what that legislation looks like but they plan on voting for it anyway.

Right now, the Senate Finance Committee is in the midst of marking up health care reform “legislation.” Due to Senate procedure, what they are actually marking up is a 200+ page conceptual framework of the actual legislation, not a real bill. That means that not only has no Senator even read the bill but, there is a high probability that the bill hasn’t even been written yet. If the Committee sticks to their artificial deadline of completing work by this Friday then they would have passed a conceptual document reforming the nation’s health care system, spending trillions, without ever seeing an estimated 1,500 pages of legislation, which may or may not be written.

The current plan is to start debate on Obamacare as early as next week under the following four-step scenario: ....

Once the Senate passes a bill and sends it to the House, all the House would have to do is pass the bill, without changes, and (Alleged) President Obama will be presented with his health care reform measure thereby transforming within a few weeks 1/6th of the US economy. If this plan does not work, the Senate and House Leadership may consider using reconciliation to pass the legislation. For a more detailed explanation of the reconciliation scenario, please see the Heritage Foundation’s Fact Sheet on Reconciliation here or a handy guide on Reconciliation published in Human Events earlier today. ....

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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 01:17 PM
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1. "(Alleged) President"
From the Heritage Foundation?

If they were referring to the "alleged plan" they chose an interesting placement.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 01:19 PM
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2. Oh, no, they MEANT "alleged Prez". They used it again later in the item. n/t
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 01:38 PM
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4. Maybe because they were calling him out by name
as opposed to the generic "congress"?

This is just mind blowing coming out of the Heritage Foundation. I would think for funding reasons alone that they would want to distance themselves from the 'birfers'.
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jemelanson Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 01:28 PM
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3. "With the (Alleged) President"
Someone needs to jerk these jerks into the present time. Obama is the Elected President of these United States. The election was not voided or stolen. The Majority of the voters in the USA Elected him to lead this countty. Maybe these bright children need to check out





TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 115 > § 2385Prev | Next § 2385. Advocating overthrow of Government

They see to be treading very close to crossing the line on these attacks. They are getting very close to going from free speach to committing Treason or Sedition.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/usc_sec_18_00002385----000-.html

Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or
Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or
Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
As used in this section, the terms “organizes” and “organize”, with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.

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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 01:48 PM
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6. You're right and thanks for this - welcome to DU
:hi:
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 01:47 PM
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5. Isn't that how they passed at least one of Gramm's pieces of legislation
that deregulated everything? I have heard nothing about the Democrats using that here. Is that the Republican trick of blaming us for what they did?
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