UK vaccine progam in chaos after 14yr old vaccine death, US defers decison on using Cervarix

[HipChick]

The U.S. drugs safety agency deferred an expected decision to approve Cervarix for use in the U.S. as a result of Natalie's death;

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1216942/Cervical-cancer-vaccine-programme-chaos-death-schoolgirl-14-hours-jab.html#ixzz0Se9lgJNq




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1216714/Schoolgirl-14-dies-given-cervical-cancer-jab.html

Natalie Morton, who attended the Blue Coat Church of England School in Coventry, died in hospital after receiving the Cervarix jab.

Coventry Primary Care Trust today said it had halted vaccinations for two days while an investigation into Natalie's death is carried out.

The Department of Health has refused to say whether it would still allow tens of thousands of girls across the country to receive the jab in the months ahead.

But there were calls for the entire cervical cancer vaccination programme to be suspended amid fears parents would now boycott it in the wake of Natalie's death.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1216714/Schoolgirl-14-dies-given-cervical-cancer-jab.html#ixzz0Se9Q1BOy
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1217076/Second-girl-Natalie-school-999-drama-cervical-jab.html

[Posteritatis]

1. 1.4 million doses, one death - but let's all panic anyway! (nt)

[notadmblnd]

2. easy for you to say, it's not like you'll ever have to risk your life taking it.

[Posteritatis]

10. Yeah, the vaccine trial I'm signing up for this week is 100% guaranteed innocuous. (nt)

[66 dmhlt]

28. Actually under trials for use in males, and ...

Already approved for use in males to prevent genital warts.

From the National Cancer Institute and "The New England Journal of Medicine":

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/prevention/hpv-vaccine

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/extract/359/8/863

[seabeyond]

3. fuck her anyway.... right. nt

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[seabeyond]

11. pretty dismissive of one life. nt

[Ian David]

12. No, it's not.

But if you like, I can try and find you a tin woodsman and a cowardly lion to accompany your straw man.

[JBoris]

15. Its not dismissive of the life. Only of the false causation

If you give 1.4 million people a shot, some of those were going to die the next hour/day/week, irrespective of a flu shot.

[Posteritatis]

9. You go! Fabricate those responses! (nt)

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

19. Let me guess you think fuck the 1,000 women that die of cervical cancer every year in the UK.

[seabeyond]

25. there you go, got to be one or the other. cant be one can have empathy for death

and still support something.

that is too, what

nuanced

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

35. Says the person who said fuck her anyway...right. Very nuanced of you. LOL

[Jackeens]

4. She had a "serious underlying medical condition" - the vaccination programme has resumed

Schools resume anti-cancer jabs

Cervical cancer vaccination programmes in UK schools are resuming following the news that a 14-year-old girl died shortly after having the jab.

Tests have shown Natalie Morton had a "serious underlying medical condition" and the jab was "most unlikely" to have caused her death, NHS Coventry said.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/8282351.stm

[HipChick]

13. They may have resumed, but I bet the parents won't be showing up ...

There was a second incident with another teen...not sure what the status is on her health..

[Jackeens]

14. This girl's death is tragic, but a million British schoolgirls have had this jab with no problems.

Trust me, I'm nervous about these things - but you have to take in to account the fact that she had a "serious underlying medical condition".


For what it's worth, from the BBC report linked above:

Philip Stevens, director of health at International Policy Network think tank, said the chance of developing a severe, life-threatening reaction to the vaccine was around one in a million.

"The probability of a British woman developing cervical cancer over her lifetime is one in 136, or 0.74% - that's 7,400 times greater," he said.

"The risks of taking the vaccine are therefore many, many times smaller than not taking the vaccine and going on to develop cervical cancer."

He warned against another MMR (measles, mumps and rubella) scare, saying similar fears about the cervical cancer jab would lead to avoidable suffering and death in the future.

[Shanti Mama]

16. There is growing evidence that

Girls who already have HPV and then get this vaccination greatly increase their odds of getting cancer.

I have never liked the fact that this was pushed through so quickly in the US and then mandated by law in some states. Too much money for the drug companies for too little benefit. Cervical cancer is one of the cancers that is most easily caught and treated. Any girl/woman who has regular check ups and pap smears should not get cervical cancer. So, I do not intend to have my daughter vaccinated.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

18. Because everyone gets regular check ups and pap smears.

:eyes:

[LeftishBrit]

20. No there isn't. What IS true is that the vaccine isn't effective once someone already has HPV

For people who have HPV, the vaccine doesn't increase the risk of cancer, but it doesn't prevent it either. That is why the vaccine is given to younger girls.

[LeftishBrit]

21. delete (dupe)

[SidDithers]

17. BBC is a much better source than the Daily Mail...

thanks for the unhysterical update.

Sid

[Ian David]

5. I hear it makes your vagina burst into flames.

SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU PUT A VACCINE IN YOUR VAGINA???






:sarcasm:

[Jackeens]

8. LOL - the Daily Mail will probably pick up on your post and have it on the front page tomorrow

"...sources say...."

:rofl:

[Jackeens]

7. Bear in mind The Daily Mail (RW rag) is ridiculed for its endless, hysterical health scare stories

And it's obsession with Princess Diana's death (they like their conspiracy stories).

http://www.mailwatch.co.uk/

[LeftishBrit]

22. Yes - and its right-wing propaganda, e.g. against immigrants, gypsies, gays, single mothers, etc.

Like a cross between Rush Limbaugh's talk-show and the National Enquirer.

[depakid]

23. The anti-vaccine crowd doesn't care about credibility

They're like Republicans- they'll say or repeat anything to further their whack agendas.

And- just like Republicans- some will fall for their scare tactics, to their own and their families' detriments.

[wolfgangmo]

33. Would you be so kind as to define your term... "anti'vaccine crowd"

Who, in your mind, is part of this crowd.

I know at the clinic that I run that we sometimes do recommend against vacinnes on a case to case basis. We also support vacinnations where appropriate but we usually recommend a changed schedule and certain vacinnes over others for our patients.

Does that make our clinic part of the "whack agenda."

If so then I suggest that you spend some time in patient care before making that judgement carte blanche, and if not then please refrain from broad brush attacks as they do not serve to further communication or education. Just my 2 cents.

[LeftishBrit]

34. My own definition of 'anti-vaccine crowd'...

is those who
(a) consider those who choose to have vaccines or support vaccination programmes to have corrupt motives, be 'sheeple', or otherwise morally unsound
or
(b) consider that any evidence that is found that vaccines or a particular vaccine don't have a particular negative consequence must have been faked or twisted to suit someone's financial interests
or
(c and most of all) are prepared to accept right-wing conspiracy sites and the like as valid sources of evidence against vaccines.

[steaa]

24. She had cancer

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8284517.stm

A girl who was vaccinated against cervical cancer died from a malignant tumour and not from a reaction to the jab, it has been revealed.

Natalie Morton, 14, died after being given the Cervarix jab at the Blue Coat Church of England School in Coventry.

A pathologist said the cause of death was a malignant tumour of the chest.

It affected both her heart and lungs.

[sendero]

26. So...

... this girl had cancer that was 1 day from killing her, but it was undiagnosed?

[LeftishBrit]

27. Apparently yes. That is the real scandal.

In fact if she had cancer at such a serious stage, she probably should NOT have had a vaccine, and it may well have accelerated her death, which would have occurred soon anyway. Which is awful, but not as awful as having a serious form of cancer undiagnosed till too late.. Unfortunately, you don't expect it in children so young.

The other possibility, I suppose is that it was diagnosed and that she was receiving chemo, which again may have made a vaccination unsafe, and that somehow this was not communicated to the school.

In any case, the real moral is that we have to be far more aware of cancer in children.

[SidDithers]

30. Kick for exposure...

'cause the follow up is never as widely read as the original, sensationalized story.

Sid

[Odin2005]

29. Give the anti-vaxers a lesson in statistics, please.

[gkhouston]

31. The probability of learning with your mind closed is 0.00 n/t

[SidDithers]

32. 0 deaths out of 1.4 million doses is also 0.00...nt

Sid