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CurtEastPoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 09:23 AM
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GA school banned from cheerleader-created Christian banners at games
Edited on Thu Oct-01-09 09:24 AM by CurtEastPoint
500 people showed up to protest this. "Apparently the cheerleaders have sought divine intervention through the banners since 2003 with the approval of the then football coach, but a complaint was only recently filed with Superintendent Denia Reese. Now, the banners are out."

God gives a shit who wins a fucking football game? I don't think so. He's kinda busy w/other stuff THAT MATTERS!

Of course, this is in my home state of Georgia...where else?

Today's AJC: http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2009/09/30/jesus-in-the-bleachers-why-sis-boom-bah-and-the-bible-dont-mix-at-football-games/
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 09:26 AM
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1. so does the football coach kick all non christians off the team? wouldnt be surprised to hear that
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CurtEastPoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 09:27 AM
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2. This is up in NW Ga, near Tenn so I doubt there are any 'non-believers' but I agree...
that it sounds that way. Of course, the commenters are saying 'Christian nation' etc.

I'm as big a Christian as anyone else who calls himself that but I don't force it on others. A little courtesy, for goodness sake!
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 09:30 AM
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4. Probably not, if they are good!
Some third stringer that was slow would probably have a rough time. Winning first, propaganda second.

Why is separating religion from sports so nearly impossible for people? Just a reason for the faux outrage I guess.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 09:29 AM
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3. School sports are largely a drain on resources and do not promote an educated society.
Sports for health reasons are fine.

Physical education standards do not include cheerleading and such.

Funny how NCLB has pushed academics toward just the basics, but sports often doesn't take a hit.

Especially in Texas, ironically.
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Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 09:41 AM
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6. Sports help teach discipline and help keep kids out of trouble.
I was just having this conversation with a friend whose high school age nephew is on the road to big trouble and/or jail - getting brought home regularly by the police lately. Vandalism, tagging, pot etc.

I would rather have my kid involved in sports than "hanging out" after school. I was so busy and tired that I barely had any time or energy to get in trouble.



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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 10:02 AM
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8. I refer to the over-the-top crazy competitive and expensive sports, like Texas Football...
Edited on Thu Oct-01-09 10:05 AM by NYC_SKP
The maniacally large salaries paid to coaching staff, the cost of uniforms, etc.

Buses are made available to take teams to other cities, but a science teacher can't get one for a field trip.

Any number of sports can teach discipline (martial arts comes to mind) and I fully support after school programs.

Also, doesn't football favor strong, large, and agressive males and leave everyone else out?

I support sports, but there are more inclusive sports that can be done with less money.

:wtf:

" For proof that football is the undisputed king of Texas high school sports, you need to look no further than what area school districts are paying head coaches.

Their average salary is $82,179.16, and nearly half are paid at least twice what an average teacher makes.

The Dallas Morning News asked 37 districts for the total compensation paid to 95 Class 5A and 4A head football coaches for the 2005-06 academic year. Average teacher salaries were obtained from the Texas Education Agency for 2004-05, the most recent data available. "

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/highschools/topstories/stories/010806dnspocoachsalaries.2a4475f.html
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 10:17 AM
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10. Many other activities teach discipline.
Band, choir, orchestra, debate team, newspaper staff, art competitions, science fairs, University Interscholastic League competition in many fields (Texas).

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Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 10:22 AM
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11. I'm going to hazard a guess that those crazy Texas teams bring in a lot of money...
...and are for the most part self supporting. I could be wrong but I know our "not so crazy" team hauled in a lot of dough for the school. And yes, our coaches made more money because they worked longer hours. They worked 7 days a week during the football season and also coached other sports throughout the year. All our coaches, non football included, worked long hours. When I look back on it, I don't think I could do it. I, like a lot of teachers, like to be home at a reasonable hour. These men and women would be in by 7 and out by 7,8 or 9 pm every school day.

I don't agree with your assertion that everyone but the large and aggressive are left out in high-school football. We had kids from the 123-130 pound range up to the 250-300 range... I remember sa couple of our best players also wrestled 127?? or 130?? (I forget the weight classes).
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Mariana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 02:29 PM
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13. Then why are the players forever at my door selling crap
fundraising for the football team? And this is AFTER the school has collected hundreds of dollars in fees from the parents of each player.
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Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 02:43 PM
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14. Because you look like a nice generous person?
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 09:31 AM
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5. What's the team's record?
Unless they've been undefeated the past five seasons, I would suspect that God has bigger fish to fry.
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 09:43 AM
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7. I think God gave up caring about anything we do a long time ago
In fact, if he saw what's been going on lately, he'd push the antfarm into the waste basket.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 10:04 AM
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9. Texas Football Coaches Paid Twice What Teachers Earn.
:wtf:

" For proof that football is the undisputed king of Texas high school sports, you need to look no further than what area school districts are paying head coaches.

Their average salary is $82,179.16, and nearly half are paid at least twice what an average teacher makes.

The Dallas Morning News asked 37 districts for the total compensation paid to 95 Class 5A and 4A head football coaches for the 2005-06 academic year. Average teacher salaries were obtained from the Texas Education Agency for 2004-05, the most recent data available. "

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/highschools/topstories/stories/010806dnspocoachsalaries.2a4475f.html
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 02:14 PM
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12. The other day when the Detroit Lions won
We were treated to footage of their aftergame lockerroom pep talk.

All this shit about kneeling down and thanking god and jeeezuz.

For a fucking football game. Like the omnipotent ruler of the universe gives a high holy shit.
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BolivarianHero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 02:47 PM
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15. Ice hockey is better than American sports...
Edited on Thu Oct-01-09 02:48 PM by BolivarianHero
Because the sport is dominated by Scandinavians, Canadians, and Eastern Europeans, people who are wise enough to look down on evangelical bullshit, celebrations consists of people screaming "fuck yeah!" when they win the Stanley Cup and thanking their families, their teammates, and hard work for making it possible....None of those bullshit Jeebusfests your inferior sports have.

But since we're stuck with Gary Bettman, maybe the other guys could be on to something. :-P
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 03:07 PM
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16. Hockey has no pretense.
I don't watch it, but I admire it. :hi:
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 03:14 PM
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17. Sex at a young age is ok, expressing your personal beliefs is not
I feel for those poor folks who had to see a message that might force them to see that there are others with beliefs not their own.

The horror.

I still remember how we had a Jewish kid in elementary school and learning about Hanukkah and his beliefs. I felt violated that there were other beliefs other than my own out there!

I cannot imagine the pain and suffering felt by a kid or a parent seeing something they may not agree with flaunted before them.

Am so glad I was not exposed to beliefs and ideals other than mine (mostly, as noted about) in an educational setting (well, we did learn about pygmies, the egyptians, etc, and their ways of life too - which I should not have been made to see).

Imagine - in this day and age kids making choices themselves about messages they felt important to convey and adults letting them?

Fuck. This diversity stuff and kids being able to make such choices has gotten out of hand if you ask me.

If our schools cannot protect us from the ideals and beliefs of others, then we are really screwn.

A little sarcasm in there for the sarcasm impaired.
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