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[nadinbrzezinski]

We got something like PO in FINANCE Committee.

[proud patriot]

1. Maria Cantwell on discussing

sounds like it gives states the option or something .

[thunder rising]

9. The problem is that stat governments are easy picking for big health. What happens to choice rites

at the state level. I'm not convinced this is a good thing.
But maybe, it's the crack in the wall that allows the merged bill to be "corrected", so ...

[aquart]

10. WORTHLESS.

Therefore deadly.

[madinmaryland]

2. It passed. Not sure the exact specifics.

It appears that they will allow the states to opt into the Public Option. Maybe this is a start.

[karynnj]

17. self delete

[louis-t]

36. States will see that it works, and may take it up.

Best case scenario.

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. Catwell is on as well

this will be at a state level, as per this amendment...

Kiddoes we are going the Canadian route with a heavy German model elements.

[Pab Sungenis]

4. Not enough.

It basically lets states set up their own. Too weak.

The Baucus bill must be killed in committee.

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. HELP is very strong

so don't despair, the fact they got something OUT is actually surprising to me.

[ProSense]

6. No it isn't

details

[lamp_shade]

7. Here's a little more detail:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6674365&mesg_id=6674365

[Hepburn]

24. Thanks....n/t

[ddeclue]

8. that's also worthless because so many state legislatures and governors are Republican.

This is another ploy to pass a worthless non option option.

Here in Florida we can't even get the Federal stimulus money allocated to our state distributed because the state legislature and governor are GOP and won't let it happen.

Any bets on the odds of them allowing a state administered public option in FL?

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. They still NEED To reconcile wiht other bills

even SENATE bills.

So will see...

[JuniperLea]

25. I wonder if anyone ever really paid attention to this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEJL2Uuv-oQ

Boy: Listen to those congressmen arguing! Is all that discussion and debate about you?

Bill: Yeah, I'm one of the lucky ones. Most bills never even get this far. I hope they decide to report on me favourably, otherwise I may die.

Boy: Die?

Bill: Yeah, die in committee. Oooh, but it looks like I'm gonna live! Now I go to the House of Representatives, and they vote on me.

Boy: If they vote yes, what happens?

Bill: Then I go to the Senate and the whole thing starts all over again.

Boy: Oh no!

Bill: Oh yes!

I'm just a bill
Yes, I'm only a bill
And if they vote for me on Capitol Hill
Well, then I'm off to the White House
Where I'll wait in a line
With a lot of other bills
For the president to sign
And if he signs me, then I'll be a law.
How I hope and pray that he will,
But today I am still just a bill.

[nadinbrzezinski]

28. Not me... for me at that time it was Proyecto de Ley

and comites del congreso de la Republica.

The similarities though are enough for me to go... cute... I liked that one. Thanks, had never seen the whole toon until today.

[tkmorris]

33. Schoolhouse Rock... rocked

I loved those. Highlight of my Saturday mornings as a kid.

[JuniperLea]

35. Me too...

I bought the whole set, on VHS, for my kids:) It has survived the test of time, no question! I keep a VCR player for jewels like that.

[stray cat]

27. its a hell of alot better than coops - people will have to pressure states

[ddeclue]

37. NO - it is useless. Here is why: Most states can't run deficits and many have GOP control.

[KingFlorez]

11. It's a start

At least it's something that could lead to something better.

[Avalux]

12. Not good enough, sorry Maria. WE NEED A PUBLIC OPTION!!!!!

And I don't expect a single Puke to go for it.

Harkin wants only Dems at the table when the Finance (Baucus's) bill and the HELP (Kennedy's) bill are reconciled together.

I like the sound of that and am encouraged we will end up with a strong PO.

[nadinbrzezinski]

18. I see it as a start to reconciliation

it is far more than I expected to get out of FINANCE. Why is this committee dominated by righties, I don't know.

Now I have said it in the past, they do not get a good PO when all is said and done, I am done voting for this party...

Yes told the DNC caller as much last night... seems they've been hearing this quite a bit.

[Avalux]

21. I feel the same way.

Don't forget we will have a strong piece of legislation out of the House that will need to be merged with the Senate's bill.

Still a long way to go; I get angry but I haven't given up hope yet. :hi:

[xchrom]

14. can you imagine what idaho or utah would make of this? nt

[Walk away]

15. Since when is a co-op the Public Option?

She just described a co-op and we already know they wont work. How is this like a public option?

[valerief]

16. Sounds like more crap to me. Just another venue to shovel money at insurance companies

in lieu of healthcare.

[redqueen]

19. "Something like" a PO = not a *strong* PO.

Which is what the American people want.

[nadinbrzezinski]

20. There is still reconciliation with bills with a PO

this is far more than I expected out of finance, to be honest.

Now they don't get a PO to the President's desk, they lost me as a voter...

Yes, I told them that much last night when they called for money.

[redqueen]

22. Oh yes... this is more than I expected from the Finance Committee.

No doubt.

Still though... those clowns need to stop pretending they're relevant. Just think cause the M$M props them up they think they're somehow more important. Pfft.

[Hepburn]

34. I will agree with that ~~ more than expected. n/t

[Hepburn]

23. I just caught the tail end of this and came over to the DU to see if...

...anyone had more facts.

[Archbishop]

26. I'm not a fan

Since I do not think Indiana will do it.

[stray cat]

29. if everyone in the nation gets better health care than Indiana

People in Indiana will get jealous and demand the option

[dysfunctional press]

30. po?

[stray cat]

31. Is this a co-op or is it a real public option

[nadinbrzezinski]

32. Looks like the option for the states to do whatever

at least to me. In her case, the WA system is her model