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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 08:12 PM Original message |
Sink your teeth into SCOTUS oral arguments in Sotomayor's first establishment clause case: |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
1. Check out Ginsburg's first question.... |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 08:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Kagan responds: |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
3. self delete |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
4. Justice Sotomayor on procedural matters of standing: |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
5. I know I'm a wet blanket |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:15 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Or fascinating clues about the thinking of the Justices and the issues involved? |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
6. Exchange between Sotomayor and Kagan on using a sign as a remedy, distinguishing public v. private |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
8. Exchange between Sotomayor and ELIASBERG: |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
9. Scalia gets knocked down a peg: |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
10. Stevens is not buying it General Kagan... |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
11. So have they gotten to the fact of government owning churches? |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:55 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Even the ACLU lawyer agreed today that many religious symbols are fine when the intent is... |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. I'm saying it's been there for 75 years |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:12 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. recently the government denied other religious symbols and made this a national monument |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:18 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. But did they make it a monument specifically because it is christian? |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:19 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Even the conservative members of the court didn't by that, let me find the quotes... |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:34 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Please do |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:43 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. There were Jewish soldiers as well and... |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:52 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Maybe there should be |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:00 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. I am not very impressed by Rehnquist but you are leaving out the importance of context |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:03 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. I'm speaking of SCOTUS decision of the Texas Capital ten commandments |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:06 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. So am I: |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:18 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Yes they are |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:23 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Well I disagree and think if that were the case any religion ought to be able to put up symbols of.. |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 01:20 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. I think you miss my point |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 06:40 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. There is certainly intolerance here but not by separationists. Tell me was Jim Crow ok? It had |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:55 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Ok, I think it was inaccurate of me to say that. They admitted that Congress' intent was... |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:01 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Yes I agree but unfortunately we're stuck with this dilemna |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:17 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. "Requests to erect a Buddhist shrine on the property were denied." by the gov not the ACLU. |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:21 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Yes I know |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:35 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. First, remember that historical significance by itself is not enough |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:46 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. I agree other than |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:49 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. The displays at the Supreme Court depict secular and religious lawgivers in order to depict... |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. I'm speaking of the Texas Capitol case |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:02 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. From your source: "The monument at issue sits amidst sixteen other nonreligious monuments" |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:10 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Yes but read the arguments |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:14 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Going through them now... I just want to be able to have a huge star of david and atheist atom |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:41 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Justice Breyer notes the context here: |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 01:23 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Yes |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 06:34 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Except that there is no other context with the cross, it is just a cross, a Christian cross |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:57 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. And of an actual example: |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
14. Thanks for keeping us updated on the goings on of the courts, usregimechange |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:01 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Thank you and your welcome, it is fun and interesting |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 01:28 AM Response to Original message |
42. k i c k |
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