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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 03:48 PM Original message |
Schumer: Opt-Out Public Option Gaining Steam |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
1. Nate Silver at |
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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 03:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Dems continue to compromise/water down cause they forget they WON. |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 05:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
51. if they pass the opt out, and red states actually opt out, there will be massive gop losses in 2010 |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 07:53 PM Response to Reply #51 |
79. Yeah, and how many people -- including DEMS -- will die as a result |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 10:07 PM Response to Reply #79 |
92. GOP = Death |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-13-09 10:05 AM Response to Reply #79 |
143. why would people die as a result? |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 10:06 PM Response to Reply #51 |
91. I agree |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 12:28 PM Response to Reply #91 |
111. This would also cause deaths in red states, though. Well, allow them to |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 12:28 PM Response to Reply #51 |
112. I don't think there will be many states that opt out--if any. |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 03:54 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. I agree. NO compromise. Medicare for all. |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Do you really think that |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. Well, if we can't pass it NOW, with the presidency and the majority in both houses |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:17 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. Our majority isn't worth much when it contains the likes of Blanche Lincoln and Baucus. nt |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:19 PM Response to Reply #18 |
32. Well, we did elect a corporatist. |
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Kermitt Gribble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 12:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
103. So you're willing to settle for anything? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #5 |
127. No Compromise == No Change |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
3. Is this the plan where the state in which I live gets to choose whether I have insurance or not? |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Yours and mine, too. You think Kyl is gonna "opt-in" so women |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Hey Tansy! A lot of folks on the board today think this is a good thing |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:09 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. you're right - it's absolute BS to say the millions of taxpayers in these |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
34. Thanks. I am too angry! Fixed it and you are correct Dumbass Bastards |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. AMEN! DUMBASS BASTARDS... seriously, I share your anger - what sick sick sick people. |
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WyLoochka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #34 |
76. This is the opposite of "appeasement" |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #76 |
114. States are artificial entities. Individuals are human beings. You are saying it is all right |
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Diane R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:11 PM Original message |
Sounds like you are in a red state. I have a question for you.... |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
27. Hah! This is exactly the strategy our state party thinks is gonna work |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
33. My red state would stand and applaud Jindal for opting out. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 12:16 PM Response to Reply #33 |
109. It is not apparent to me that Jindal would be the one to decide |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 12:38 PM Response to Reply #109 |
115. How, under the Constitution, can the feds force states to hold a referendum? |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 12:48 PM Response to Reply #115 |
119. The states may well be able to make the decision themselves but |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #115 |
135. The word is "permit" not "force". |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
72. When you have people ON MEDICARE out protesting against government involvement in health care, you |
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Iowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
73. This isn't a game. Our way of life (and sometimes our very lives) are lives at stake. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 08:52 PM Response to Reply #73 |
82. Yeppers, except in very few cases,I suspect you are correct. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #73 |
122. Deleted dupe. Sorry. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #73 |
123. I write my elected representatives once a week saying |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #73 |
137. + |
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TheCoxwain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
25. It is 'accept' - not 'except'. They have very different meanings. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Fixed it.Anger effects my spelling. I can't see straight. |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 05:30 PM Response to Reply #31 |
55. Hah. It gotcha again. "Affects," not "effects." |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 06:20 PM Response to Reply #55 |
63. Some days its like that.I am working on becoming illiterate! |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 08:16 PM Response to Reply #63 |
81. Perfect. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
42. You think the businesses in your state will ALLOW the pols to opt out once they crunch the numbers |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:53 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. You really don't know my state. All those institutions are against funding Public Education |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:58 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. That is true at THIS date....but, the math will hit these folks soon enough. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 06:14 PM Response to Reply #45 |
61. I apologize for insulting you blm. I am just very angy at the proposed gamble of |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 06:22 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. For how long though? Any business with an ounce of savvy for their profit margins will come down |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. I understand but this has been going on for at least 20 years and they don't get it. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 07:38 PM Response to Reply #67 |
78. I highly doubt it...I don't see them ABLE to pull that much wool nowadays...but...we'll see. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
107. I haven't read the plan as giving the US Senator from the state the power to decide |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 01:00 PM Response to Reply #107 |
120. Please see Reply #115. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #120 |
129. As I said in reply #119 all states have some mechanism whereby |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 07:11 AM Response to Reply #3 |
101. Exactly. Come on Dems! If now isn't the time to show some spine |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #3 |
106. Yes. As opposed to the plan in which the state YOU live in gets to choose for me. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 12:47 PM Response to Reply #106 |
118. States are not choosing anything right now. It's the Senators. And, they are doing so |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #3 |
113. More likely, You will HAVE to have insurance, BUT your state will decide if you have a public option |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 12:43 PM Response to Reply #113 |
116. what fekkin public option? |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
4. What a revolting bunch of pigs they all are.And people think |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 03:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. The operative word in your post is "WAS". I would NEVER vote for Schumer again. |
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LSparkle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Bingo! Winning IS everything for them ... doesn't matter what the bill looks like n/t |
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grytpype (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. What is wrong with you people? |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #12 |
48. But "we " are gettingNOTHING. |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 06:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
60. There's a big ass difference between "absolutely everything" |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 06:35 PM Response to Reply #60 |
70. I Love Ya Tansy.Right on again! |
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Iowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 06:54 PM Response to Reply #60 |
74. Well said. Especially the "Fuck you" part. |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Yeah, well, I thought it was the proper response to |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 12:11 PM Response to Reply #60 |
108. It is not a given that the state legislators or governors or any other elected |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #108 |
121. Please see Reply #115. Feds may have the power to force states to hold a referendum, but |
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JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-13-09 08:16 AM Response to Reply #60 |
141. Alabama here, and I'm not much happier than you. |
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kjackson227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-13-09 09:19 AM Response to Reply #141 |
142. JoeyT, this post exactly explains the sentiments of some of our Democratic... |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. I hear ya |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
20. Schumer was running the DSCC when he helped shoved Amy Klobuchar |
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kjackson227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
9. What in the hell are we supposed to do in my state??? I guess... |
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jtrockville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:03 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Load your state government with progressives? |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:11 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. which is the exact reason why it cannot be allowed - we are the large majority party & |
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jtrockville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #22 |
138. I much prefer SINGLE-PAYER to a "no watered-down public option" |
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kjackson227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:12 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. Well, that would be great if I had the power to do IT by myself. I have supported... |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 06:15 PM Response to Reply #23 |
62. Exactly. |
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jtrockville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 02:03 PM Response to Reply #23 |
139. I don't appreciate that the country is considering crapping on you either. |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 06:33 PM Response to Reply #15 |
68. You're assuming the elections are honest. There aren't even paper trails in my state. n/t |
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cosmicone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 05:02 PM Response to Reply #9 |
46. This is a great idea... |
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kjackson227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 05:25 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. I understand the strategy, I just hope you're right. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #46 |
125. It is a cowardly, morally bankrupt idea. Please see Reply # 114. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #46 |
126. It is a cowardly, morally bankrupt idea. Please see Reply # 114. |
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WyLoochka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 05:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
49. I feel exactly the opposite |
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kjackson227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 05:29 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. and maybe it will make more Dems come out and vote... |
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hay rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 06:35 PM Response to Reply #9 |
69. Shoe on the other foot. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 01:26 PM Response to Reply #69 |
128. Wrong framing. The only reason you would have to accept expensive |
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hay rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 03:48 PM Response to Reply #128 |
140. Addressing the argument, not the issue. |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
14. If they pass this, |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #14 |
66. Is the Kucinich bill for this still alive? |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
16. F you Chuck! |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
17. The reason this is a bad idea is not only that a great many would be left behind... |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Huh? It'll be federally funded. And people who want it will move out of their |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:13 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Really.What are you, a spolied child? With what money will they move? |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. That's right. Let's let EVERYONE die instead. nt |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:27 PM Response to Reply #26 |
36. Now .Everyone should LIVE. Not just blue states.And there is NO reason for this. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:33 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. You're asking me? I guess because they want to syphon off the money for war |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 01:16 PM Response to Reply #26 |
124. Wtf? No one has to die if the Democrats in Washington, D.C. do their jobs. |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 09:18 PM Response to Reply #24 |
87. RE: The Jobs question |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
29. I'm all for states rights when it comes to guns, drugs, and education |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:34 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. Yeah, for that we should have no rights. |
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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:53 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. our constitution does not give us that right unfortuately. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 10:26 AM Response to Reply #43 |
102. Yeah, too bad we can't pass amendments any more. The Constitution has those. nt |
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tomm2thumbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
30. wondering how people will sneak around the rules - as they always do - have fake CA addresses, etc |
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CL455W4R (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:38 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. Excellent Idea!!!! |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
39. I think no state will opt out. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 05:04 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. BINGO. And even the biggest corporate assholes will do the math and demand their state opt IN |
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tomm2thumbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 05:13 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. yup yup - like all the folks who were gonna 'opt out' of Federal funds earlier this year |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 05:43 PM Response to Reply #39 |
56. Agreed. I think this is a good idea. Let the Republicans running the little tiny states just try to |
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twitomy (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
41. What kind of "public option" are we talking about? |
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Swede Atlanta (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
52. No, No, No..... |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
57. I'm calling my Senator and telling him Public Option: or I will do everyting..... |
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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 07:10 AM Response to Reply #57 |
100. I am putting a call in also today. |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
58. Schumer is the King of the Corporatist Senators. First Wall Street and now Big Insurance. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #58 |
134. These days, almost all of them seem to be, even once liberal Barney Frank. K Street |
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GinaMaria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
59. Shouldn't it be up to the individual to opt out? |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
65. Schumer and his DLC buddies will do ANYTHING to dilute.... |
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Baysponge (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
71. Who looks out for Red Stare poor!?! |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
77. This is a very BAD idea |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 08:55 PM Response to Reply #77 |
83. That would create unavoidable political pressure for those states to "opt in". No? nt |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 01:33 PM Response to Reply #83 |
132. No. They won't need to opt in. They would have to take action to get out of it |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 09:35 PM Response to Reply #77 |
89. If they don't like it, they can put an initative on the ballot |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 01:32 PM Response to Reply #89 |
131. You lived in a red country for 8 years. What could you do about it? Would you |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
80. That would be OK as long as states get to opt out of the individual mandate as well. n/t |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 01:29 PM Response to Reply #80 |
130. Why is it okay for people to keep dying and going bankrupt? |
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spaten (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
84. the "political pressure" already exists |
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SandWalker1984 (533 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
85. Schumer's cop out, opt out! |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
86. Fair enough! Conservatives can have their private insurance if that is what they want. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #86 |
136. How is that fair to people in red states who want a public option? |
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turntxblue (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
88. As a Texan, |
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GodDamLiberal (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
90. Can we quarantine |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 10:21 PM Response to Reply #90 |
94. Oh, that's such a helpful and "compassionate" solution. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
93. Schumer attempts to sandbag Medicare for all. nt |
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dpbrown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
95. Stop watering it down... losers |
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MarjorieG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
96. We need the Option tied to Medicare rates or we won't get the siccess sooner or later. Really want |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 02:42 AM Response to Original message |
97. If that is the case, I'll just move. |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 05:24 AM Response to Original message |
98. COP OUT! |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 06:15 AM Response to Original message |
99. Pathetic and I completly disagree with this...nt |
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Kermitt Gribble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
104. Horrible idea. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
105. Excellent. Freed from the need to pander to the ignorant red states... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
110. Bad,BAD idea. It is enough that a human being can opt in or out. Why |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
117. Opt-In ??? Carper... |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #117 |
133. Opt-in is just fucking stupid. Opt-out has potential. |
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