I feel phsyically ill and completely outraged (video of Mother Of Nataline Sarkisya at CIGNA)

[Roland99]

http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/heres-your-real-death-panel-cigna-employees


I literally feel physically ill.


How in *the* hell did this country ever get to the point that a large portion of the population (*ahem*, I'm calling you out, Republicans. You vile pieces of shit!) would put corporate interests and profits above the health and welfare of individual Americans?!?!

And to the "blue dog" Democrats, you can go fuck yourselves with a rusty saw for all I care. Greedy fucking pieces of shit!

[bluestateguy]

1. People need to find a more honorable profession than working for a health insurance co.

and that goes for everyone from the CEO to the janitor who sweeps their floors.

Being a cocaine dealer is more honorable than what they do.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

2. CIGNA Death Panel

is what it was. That was sad. Even that CIGNA spokesman was having
trouble looking the mother in the eye.

He knew it was wrong.

[Roland99]

3. And to make matters worse, that video further down of the Fox Fucks DEFENDING CIGNA!

[drm604]

4. This is what needs to be done.

Employees of the insurance companies need to be confronted outside every day by pictures and families of the companies' victims.

When I say employees, I'm not talking about low level employees who are just trying to survive or maybe took the job to get coverage for a family member. I can sympathize with them. I'm talking about executives, CEOs, and other decision makers.

No violence. No blocking of paths. Just the faces of grieving family and the pictures of parents or grandparents or children or siblings or spouses who are gone because of denial of care. Maybe the chanting of victims names along with the occasional tough question.

Maybe raise the chants to a level that makes it a little difficult for people to work inside.

But keep it non-violent. Don't make it easy for the guards or policeman who drag them away. If they're going to be dragging someone away, make it emotionally difficult for them to do so. Make them drag away peaceful grieving mothers, grieving husbands, grieving children. Make them drag away clergy, ministers, rabbis, priests, nuns, and have LOTS of cameras rolling in every direction ready to show on youtube the faces of the guards or police who are bodily removing these people.

Make the men doing the removing reluctant to do that particular duty. Make they loath coming into the job in the morning.

Make the executives reluctant to enter and leave the building. get them on video (once again destined for youtube) reluctant to answer difficult questions.

You get the idea. People have to be willing to get arrested. And there have to be so many people with cameras (or simply camera phones) that they can't arrest or confiscate them all.

Ideally the cameras should send a live wireless feed to some hidden local recorder or wifi access point so even if the cameras are confiscated the pictures are already beyond the ability of anyone to retrieve.

Once this starts to be done everyday, and once the videos start getting onto the net it will just naturally grow everyday.

Always, ALWAYS, keep it non-violent. Be wary of anyone who suggests violence as they are probably operatives trying to get you to commit criminal acts. Ignore them. If they persist, or if it appears that they themselves may get violent, point them out to authorities immediately and let it be known that you will testify against them, and get the names of the arresting officers. Do this in order to out plants, since they won't ever actually bring charges against undercover instigators.

[TicketyBoo]

7. Yes, but this movement

needs a leader like MLK. It is for civil rights, too, after all.

Who would lead such a movement? Is there someone? I can tell you that if it were a member of my family who was denied coverage and died as a result, I would LIVE in the street in front of the corporate office. I would be grieving so hard that I wouldn't want to be anywhere else.

[drm604]

13. I'm sure there are people out there who could lead it.

Possibly some currently unknown person who's lost a loved one to corporate greed, or possibly some already well known activist. There are any number of possibilities.

[TicketyBoo]

17. I was looking for a name.

Such as John Walsh in the cause of missing and exploited children.

I thought maybe someone could think of someone. I can think of no obvious person to do it.

[Greyhound]

10. I like your idea, unfortunately these parasites do not care about the suffering they cause,

many openly revel in it. And their counterparts in other, less obedient, nations have already developed methods to counter your proposals. Look @ most South American nations or Dubai, their parasites are never in public or ever contact the "little people". Their neighborhoods are literally armed camps, exclusive enclaves they never need to leave and when they do go out, they leave in armored vehicles with their entourage of muscle.

They simply retire to another world, one that is completely inaccessible to anyone that might cause trouble.

[drm604]

12. What we need is the spectacle outside the insurance company buildings every day.

These will be public streets in business districts. They can't keep the public from these streets every day, day after day. They can't know who in the anonymous passing crowd is taking videos. If they mistreat grieving families we will know, there will be videos. They would either have to let them protest peacefully, or they would have to drag them away and have the dragging visible to millions. They would have to resort to a police state to prevent that. The kind of repression needed to stop the videotaping couldn't be hidden from the public.

We need those videos on youtube, new ones every day. Putting pressure on the execs is important, but the real point is to get through to everyday people. They'll see it on youtube and, if it gets big enough, the MSM will have to at least mention it.

I want to see Rush and Glenn and Bill railing against the parents of dead children. I want the fans to see them at their cruelest.

[saracat]

5. People would have to care.The Government would have to care and they don't.

The proposed state by state"opt out" proves that. We will be seeing a lot more of these cases. But to many it won't matter.The vixctims will live in "red states".I have been repeatedly told so on this board.


Michael Jackson was right.
"Nobody Cares About Us"

[lonestarnot]

6. Do you really think it is because people don't care?

[saracat]

15. For the most part yes. as part of a campaign I am involved with

I have had several calls where voters have seriously told me that all Democrats, and especially me should die as ALL people aren't entitled to health care. If I couldn't "afford" it, it was unfortunate but I would have to "die". These were "sweet little old ladies" and suburban young Mom's. they represent the overwhelming attitude on the GOP side. On the Democratic side many on DU have said that people in red states, might have to die or lose everything because that was the "price we pay". Others said the state by state option might take time to get coverage for all and when I replied that even if that were true, many of us don't have the "time".The response was overwhelmingly "too bad" "tough". Many suggested that all liberals should 'move" from red states, and were contemptuous when it was explained that many don't have money , or jobs to go to or family to stay with, again the answer was"too bad"

When there is absolutely no reason to deprive ALL Americans of a choice in affordable health care except to create bipartisanship to protect the investments and r-elections of a few Blue Dogs and to kiss the butt of the GOP because looking bipartisan is more important that protecting the lives of ALL Americans and political "strategy" is everything, Yes, I believe people don't care.

[lonestarnot]

18. I will not for one second believe that is the majority of Americans, but I do

not deny that those selfish fuckers don't have sway. Discover them, ridicule them, expose them and ostracize them. :puke:

[Why Syzygy]

8. That was surreal

I think the attorney is right, they will settle. But it can't cancel the loss.

[Greyhound]

9. K&R and thanks for the visual of the "blue dogs". n/t

[Roland99]

11. You're welcome!

btw, if Congress would just follow Kucinich's lead we'd NEVER see situations like this one again!

[area51]

14. k&r (n/t)

[Ilsa]

16. Palin, other Reghuglicans, and blue dogs need to get this. I'd love

for all of them to be told their kid is dying and have their insurance co deny payment. I don't want the kids to really be sick, I just want the parents to experience that fear of losing everything.

[ILMediaProgressives]

19. We saw 7 people dragged out of Cigna in Chicago

They call them the Cigna 7.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P87I7dABsv4