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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-01-09 11:45 PM Original message |
Couple sues: Neighbors smoke outdoors |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-01-09 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
1. The ultimate "Get off my lawn" bullshit by people who need more of a life. |
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zonkers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
132. Ironic that you bash complainers, saying they need more of a life when that is literally what they |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #132 |
183. There is a difference between second hand smoke and cigarette odor. |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 05:18 PM Response to Reply #132 |
262. Sweet Jebus, leaf blowers will surely spell the end of civilization as we know it |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 11:22 PM Response to Reply #132 |
292. There are a great many things in the public domain that kill. |
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zonkers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 01:36 AM Response to Reply #292 |
298. Offending people? Is that what we are calling subjecting others to 2nd hand smoke these days? |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 07:01 AM Response to Reply #132 |
309. This isn't about a health concern |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-01-09 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
2. Keep a very close eye on this.. |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
121. Well, the good news is that MJ can be eaten, taken in a concentrate, vaporized. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 02:57 PM Response to Reply #121 |
200. True, but some will still prefer to smoke it. nt |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 05:43 PM Response to Reply #121 |
267. I have nothing of merit to add to this |
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tmyers09 (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-01-09 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
3. The smoking Nazis strike again. |
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Zoeisright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-01-09 11:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Keep it in your own damn lungs, and I don't care if you burst into flame. |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:14 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. i agree. nt |
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ohheckyeah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:18 AM Response to Reply #6 |
13. and I bet you have a long one. n/t |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:20 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. hehe |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 02:59 AM Response to Reply #6 |
31. No it doesn't, actually. And I think these two will lose. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 04:59 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. i think so too. if they won it would open the door to lots of anti-corporate suits. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 05:35 AM Response to Reply #31 |
41. Selfish logic has brought us to where we are |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:08 AM Response to Reply #41 |
67. Your me me me mentality seems to leave out the smoker |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #67 |
124. Yeah, Those Selfish Fucks...Smoking In Their Own Backyard. |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #67 |
145. When did "anywhere they please" become one's own back yard? n/t |
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raw oysters (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #67 |
223. You have a point. Next person who drives a car near me better watch out for my .357 |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 04:00 PM Response to Reply #67 |
238. What about folks that don't drive automobiles? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 01:48 AM Response to Reply #67 |
300. it's their property, not "anywhere they please". smoking is *legal*. |
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underseasurveyor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 04:00 AM Response to Reply #67 |
306. Oh well then please forgive us... we weren't informed |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 09:26 AM Response to Reply #306 |
310. You are the perfect example |
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underseasurveyor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 12:12 PM Response to Reply #310 |
311. Why thank you for proving once again |
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underseasurveyor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 11:17 AM Response to Reply #41 |
115. I think calling it Spoiled Brat Logic fits better |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #115 |
226. Riiiggghhhhhttttt.... non-smokers are brats but not smokers. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 04:58 PM Response to Reply #226 |
258. You must not drive a car, or light a fire in a fireplace, or |
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underseasurveyor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 02:42 AM Response to Reply #258 |
304. Crap I responded to the wrong post |
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underseasurveyor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 02:20 AM Response to Reply #226 |
303. No I think that's probably a split decision. No TKO's here |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:38 PM Response to Reply #41 |
173. Exactly ~ it's a cultrue of 'me' |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 06:54 PM Response to Reply #41 |
274. I don't smoke and I have severe asthma |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 07:16 PM Response to Reply #274 |
276. We used to have barbequers next door, and those people BURNED everything they cooked |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 07:48 PM Response to Reply #276 |
278. I live in a rural area and we have burn bans |
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underseasurveyor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 03:01 AM Response to Reply #274 |
305. See if I had a sweet rational reasonable neighbour like you |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
150. How Could You Possibly Inhale Smoke With Your Nose Stuck Up So High In The Air? |
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underseasurveyor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
168. But if I burst into flames, you'd whine about that smoke too |
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cark (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
221. Perfume? Some lady had stinky perfume on today - |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 11:23 PM Response to Reply #6 |
293. Stay out of public, then. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:50 AM Response to Reply #3 |
85. No, its not in YOUR yard, its in MY yard. |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:58 AM Response to Reply #85 |
91. Do you feed the same way about a barbeque pit or grill in your neighbors' back yard? |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:14 AM Response to Reply #91 |
100. Depends...... |
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ScreamingWhisper (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 11:23 AM Response to Reply #100 |
118. No...it's Apples to Apples |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:45 PM Response to Reply #118 |
176. You may be right.... |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:16 PM Response to Reply #100 |
128. They both involve burning organic material |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:46 AM Response to Reply #85 |
106. My mom can't sit on her patio some nights because the neighbors' fireplaces. |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #106 |
196. Inside of a bishop's casket..... |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:09 PM Response to Reply #85 |
155. What About Your Car Exhaust? Barbecue? Fireplace? Perfume? Where Does It End? |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:47 PM Response to Reply #155 |
177. I guess it ends when your neighbors complain..... |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:11 PM Response to Reply #177 |
208. Yes, Let's Talk In Circles. What About Barbecues? Fireplaces? Perfume? Car Exhaust? Dryer Vent. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:14 PM Response to Reply #208 |
210. No one is going in circle but you..... |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:21 PM Response to Reply #210 |
216. Nope. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:25 PM Response to Reply #216 |
218. Deleted message |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #218 |
220. You Got Nuttin. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #220 |
225. No, nosepincher.... |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 11:30 PM Response to Reply #216 |
294. My husband and I smoke outside - |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:54 PM Response to Reply #177 |
237. ridiculous. two people smoking in the open air that far away shouldn't even be smellable. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:32 PM Response to Reply #237 |
281. "Shouldn't" is the key word. But maybe it does.... |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 11:17 AM Response to Reply #3 |
116. Nope, it's the inconsiderate bastards striking again...the smokers obviously |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #116 |
129. Exactly. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 04:24 AM Response to Reply #129 |
307. You can use nicotine tea to kill bad bugs in the garden |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-01-09 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
4. I'm a smoker, but I would be upset by neighbors smoke, especially cigar smoke... |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:12 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Nothing better than a good cigar... |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 10:23 PM Response to Reply #11 |
312. Actually, there is something better... |
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Soylent Brice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 11:13 AM Response to Reply #4 |
113. best common sense response: |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-01-09 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
5. sigh |
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smalll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-01-09 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
7. "the neighbor's smoke, which ... settles like a fog in their yard..." |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-01-09 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
8. "they were unable to contact the neighbor by telephone and letter." |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:23 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. I take it knocking on her door was out of the question? |
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BlueMTexpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 07:31 AM Response to Reply #15 |
46. That was my first thought too. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 05:01 AM Response to Reply #8 |
36. the neighbors are out in their yard smoking so much that it settles like a fog |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:48 AM Response to Reply #36 |
107. LOL +1 |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #36 |
141. Maybe they should have tried smoke signals? |
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TK421 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 07:58 PM Response to Reply #36 |
279. It takes some time to break out the walkers.... |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-01-09 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
9. Good luck getting a judge to hear that one. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:54 AM Response to Reply #9 |
23. You're absolutely wrong about that. It's a good cause of action. |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:19 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Cigarette smoke? Or smoke from a fire, or other open combustion? |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 07:28 AM Response to Reply #24 |
45. What you really mean is you WISH it wasn't a nuisance because you don't want it to be. |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:17 AM Response to Reply #45 |
70. Can the smokers sue the neighbors for being busybody nuisances, then? |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:25 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. No. |
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DaveinJapan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 05:14 PM Response to Reply #73 |
261. Obnoxious, inconsiderate, irresponsible. Wow. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:55 AM Response to Reply #70 |
88. How is sitting in one's own yard being a "busybody"? |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:21 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. The judge is still unlikely to be pleased about this- especially under the current circumstances |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 07:41 AM Response to Reply #25 |
50. That is NOT how a judge considers such a case. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #50 |
230. As I said- the judge will be pissed. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 04:16 PM Response to Reply #230 |
242. We don't know what the judge will do. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 04:26 PM Response to Reply #242 |
243. Odds are he'll "strongly suggest" settling- but has no power to order it |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 04:32 PM Response to Reply #243 |
244. I like the plaintiffs' case. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 04:38 PM Response to Reply #244 |
247. I'm sure they'll make that argument- along with others- and eyes will roll |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #243 |
272. actually, the judge can sort of order it |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:10 PM Response to Reply #272 |
280. That's not going to happen. I've explained it in my posts, if you want to know why. |
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raw oysters (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 04:41 PM Response to Reply #50 |
251. The plaintiffs are related to the woman who called the cops on a 'naked man across the street' |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:57 AM Response to Reply #25 |
90. really? Seems like a very reasonable case to me. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #90 |
232. This doesn't even rise to the level of most barking dog cases |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:35 PM Response to Reply #232 |
283. Well, its one persons opinion. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:09 AM Response to Reply #23 |
32. 'Examples of private nuisances abound' |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 05:04 AM Response to Reply #32 |
37. "couldn't reach them" - but they're supposedly out in their yard smoking so much |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 07:46 AM Response to Reply #32 |
51. A NUISANCE can be an otherwise legal use of property and often is. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 08:22 AM Response to Reply #51 |
61. +1. Makes perfect sense. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 08:34 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Yes. It is clear that smoke can be a nuisance, but it is a fact question whether THIS use is. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #51 |
131. The only way you would win a case regarding a dog barking |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #131 |
184. Sorry, but you're badly misinformed. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 02:34 PM Response to Reply #184 |
189. I know it's a civil lawsuit. Civil lawsuits get thrown out of court |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 02:45 PM Response to Reply #189 |
194. There has to be a legal basis for getting a case dismissed. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #194 |
203. I would not file a motion to dismiss, I would file a counter suit |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #203 |
211. We were discussing your Motion to Dismiss the Plaintiff's case. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 04:06 PM Response to Reply #211 |
241. As far as a motion to dismiss, they probably should file |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:37 AM Response to Reply #32 |
80. Obviously these neighbors have not worked things out |
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rubberducky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 11:15 AM Response to Reply #23 |
114. What about a crying , colicky baby, or whining kids? |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 11:43 AM Response to Reply #114 |
119. You're going to have to go down that rabbit trail by yourself. |
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rubberducky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:29 PM Response to Reply #119 |
130. I was only referring to your post about "Nuisance". I once had a neighbor who had a colicky baby. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #130 |
185. It's safe to say the defendant neighbor would not have acted without a lawsuit. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #185 |
231. There's always the option of peering over the fence |
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DaveinJapan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 05:36 PM Response to Reply #119 |
265. "mass quantities of smoke", hyperbolize much? nt |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #114 |
166. My sister once had the police called on her because my neice was sick. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
10. Next lawsuit backyard grills |
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JustABozoOnThisBus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
152. Your bratwurst offends my veggie sensibilities. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #152 |
171. LOL! |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
16. No more fireplaces, grilling outdoors, dryer vents..... |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:30 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. And I hope they go to the city to stop traffic on the road in front of their house. n/t |
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strategery blunder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:47 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. fireplaces emit formeldahyde? Really? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 05:10 AM Response to Reply #21 |
38. yes, really. so do forest fires. it's a combustion product. |
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strategery blunder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 06:50 PM Response to Reply #38 |
273. I need strong ventilation when the chemical is present. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:38 PM Response to Reply #273 |
285. since you live in washington, where smoking in any public building or business |
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strategery blunder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:04 PM Response to Reply #285 |
288. Not everyone obeys the law. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #21 |
136. You better run away from every car that passes you by also. |
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Flaneur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #21 |
142. You should encourage your smoking buddies to try American Spirits. |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 02:28 AM Response to Reply #16 |
27. ...well, actually, I can't be around a wood fire long, and fireplace season is hell for me.... |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 02:43 AM Response to Reply #16 |
29. I'm calling my lawyer tomorrow. Interstate 10 is going DOWN! n/t |
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Kajsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 11:19 AM Response to Reply #29 |
117. LOL! |
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underseasurveyor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #29 |
133. Ha Ha Ha Ha |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
17. It's a good thing I never started smoking. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
19. Oh geez. I'm pro- indoor public bans but this is just moronic. |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:43 AM Response to Original message |
20. I find this very hard to believe! I could see it, I guess, if we were talking about an apartment |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
22. Sounds good. The smoke from a neighbor's is a nuisance. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:52 AM Response to Reply #22 |
34. Would you complain about these same neighbors for lighting up coals so they can use their grill? n/t |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 05:20 AM Response to Reply #34 |
40. tobacco smoke has unique properties that arouse moral outrage |
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AnOhioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 05:46 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. +1 |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 06:51 AM Response to Reply #34 |
43. Gated communities around this area outlaw outdoor flames |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 08:00 AM Response to Reply #34 |
54. I'm not the one with the complaint. Their neighbors are. |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 08:37 AM Response to Reply #54 |
64. Is ironic entertainment a nuisance or a blessing? |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:24 AM Response to Reply #54 |
72. How is that 'government ass kissing' working out for you? |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:26 AM Response to Reply #72 |
74. It's not government ass kissing to assert one's right to freely enjoy their yard. |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:51 AM Response to Reply #74 |
87. Some have an odd notion of what constitutes government ass kissing. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:37 AM Response to Reply #87 |
101. Indeed. It's not government action, but private action, involved in this case. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:17 PM Response to Reply #74 |
160. Looks like that is what the smokers were doing |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 02:24 PM Response to Reply #160 |
186. The smokers are free to enjoy THEIR property, not free to spoil their neighbor's property. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 02:45 PM Response to Reply #186 |
193. I'll remember that the next time my neighbor lights a barbecue |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #193 |
197. Clearly, you are badly misinformed about the law. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:11 PM Response to Reply #197 |
207. I read your posts on nuisance law and responded to them. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #207 |
224. First of all, it's not damages, but injunctive relief, they likely seek. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 04:41 PM Response to Reply #224 |
249. Well, if they are claiming that the plaintiff's have a medical |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 02:19 AM Response to Original message |
26. Wasn't just a couple weeks ago somebody was suing because of |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 02:36 AM Response to Original message |
28. My neighbor's chimney smoke about chokes us out when we're outside. n/t |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:58 AM Response to Reply #28 |
92. I feel your pain - I can't leave my front door & windows open during the summer |
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Pavlovs DiOgie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 02:57 AM Response to Original message |
30. but they were unable to contact the neighbor by telephone and letter |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 05:17 AM Response to Reply #30 |
39. since the smoke "hangs like fog" in the assholes' property, those smokers must be out |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 08:07 AM Response to Reply #39 |
56. If you'd actually read the article, you'd know the defendants don't smoke in THEIR home. |
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Pavlovs DiOgie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 08:12 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. LOL and if you had actually read the article |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 08:17 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. That's incorrect. The article states that defendants ignored letters from plaintiffs. |
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Pavlovs DiOgie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:34 AM Response to Reply #60 |
78. You are right they did send "letters" |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #78 |
102. We don't know everything that they did, but we do know they sent multiple letters. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #102 |
233. Why do they have to respond to the letters? |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 04:37 PM Response to Reply #233 |
246. Great. Then you'd be sued. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 04:41 PM Response to Reply #246 |
248. I hope they make sure to coutner-sue for all the neighbors |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 01:54 AM Response to Reply #246 |
301. when i have a minor beef with my neighbors, i don't send them letters, |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:16 AM Response to Reply #56 |
69. Totally agree with your posts. Their not smoking inside suggests to me |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:22 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Since the defendant's home has 3 adult smokers, it's a big problem. |
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Pavlovs DiOgie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:36 AM Response to Reply #71 |
79. Or probably the fact that her crabby ass neighbors couldnt bother themselves |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:10 AM Response to Reply #79 |
98. In my opinion, the smokers should have inquired politely BEFORE they began fouling the shared air |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 02:55 PM Response to Reply #98 |
199. Kudos . Your suggestion the ESSENCE of civility and charm. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #79 |
104. You're jumping to unwarranted conclusions again. |
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Pavlovs DiOgie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:51 PM Response to Reply #104 |
140. And that my friend is exactly why this country is going to shit. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #140 |
172. + 87 |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 02:29 PM Response to Reply #140 |
187. I know the defendant failed to act after getting at least two letters. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #187 |
234. How would you have them "correct" the problem? nt |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 04:45 PM Response to Reply #234 |
252. I would propose a compromise. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #252 |
254. And how much would this cost the defendants? |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 04:54 PM Response to Reply #254 |
256. The electricity to run the air filter when they smoke. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 04:58 PM Response to Reply #256 |
257. And if they didn't ignore the letters, but said politely |
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FormerDittoHead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #69 |
139. Understand what's implied here... RANT TIME |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #139 |
191. BINGO. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #139 |
198. Yes. The defendant doesn't want smoke in her house. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #139 |
215. You're assuming they don't smoke inside as well. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #215 |
228. The article says the Defendant makes her kids smoke outside. |
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FormerDittoHead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 04:33 PM Response to Reply #215 |
245. Yes. Usually. Read the story. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 04:46 PM Response to Reply #245 |
253. Thanks, I hadn't read that ~ |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #56 |
229. if you'd read my post, you'd know i never said they did. i said they smoked in their |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 08:02 AM Response to Reply #30 |
55. That's incorrect. The plaintiffs sent a letter, which the defendants ignored. |
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Pavlovs DiOgie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 08:10 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. sorry but no |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 08:15 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Sorry, but YES, they did send a letter and it's in the article you didn't read. |
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Pavlovs DiOgie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:29 AM Response to Reply #59 |
75. My mistake they did send a letter before the actual suit |
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uncle ray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:59 AM Response to Reply #75 |
112. you are expecting a level of niceness that the smokers did not themselves extend. |
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Pavlovs DiOgie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #112 |
144. Sorry smoking outside does not equal FUCK YOU |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #112 |
240. +1 |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #59 |
202. thanks for explaining nuisances to these people. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #202 |
217. OMG! Someone familiar with it! |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 12:49 AM Response to Reply #217 |
313. Yes I do give legal opinions. |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #57 |
201. As Heidi states downthread why didn't the smokers first enquire if the |
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underseasurveyor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:04 PM Response to Reply #201 |
205. So now they should have asked for their neighbours approval? |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #205 |
214. The question of neighborliness has been raised. The essence of being |
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underseasurveyor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #214 |
222. Noise restrictions are one thing |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:48 PM Response to Reply #222 |
235. What you describe is a "screw you" attitude. Let's just be clear then that |
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underseasurveyor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 02:01 AM Response to Reply #235 |
302. Well if that's your take on it that's fine, but that isn't how I see it. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 05:33 PM Response to Reply #222 |
264. Yes, that's a good point |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #30 |
170. Aye. Confrontation By Lawsuit |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:12 AM Response to Original message |
33. I they lose so hard. |
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WVRICK13 (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 07:09 AM Response to Original message |
44. Fascism is Fascism |
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BakedAtAMileHigh (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:47 AM Response to Reply #44 |
83. you're a freedumb fighter! |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:59 AM Response to Reply #44 |
93. Still waiting on you to explain fascism..... |
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WVRICK13 (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 07:00 AM Response to Reply #93 |
308. Fascism |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 07:37 AM Response to Original message |
47. Gated Community says it all |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
48. It's Garrison Keillor's The End of the Trail come to pass |
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TransitJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
49. I guess it's time to sue every one of my neighbors |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:53 AM Response to Reply #49 |
111. If they just idle their engines 30 times a day for about 10 minutes |
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Stevenmarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 07:48 AM Response to Original message |
52. They need to move to another gated community, a psychiatric hospital |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
53. If the smokers are creating an atmosphere so toxic that people |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 08:27 AM Response to Original message |
62. more selfish and self centered people seeing the world as theirs and everyone is to accommodate. |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #62 |
122. Yep. Complete idiots. They will lose the lawsuit. |
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TCJ70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
65. I'm all for indoor smoking bans on businesses, but this is ridiculous. n/t |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
66. So they can smell the smoke but not shout over the fence? |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
68. Good Lord, when are these smoking Nazi's going to get a life? |
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BakedAtAMileHigh (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:49 AM Response to Reply #68 |
84. You Lose Two Ways With This Post |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #84 |
195. Hot damn!! What a way to burst into DU: +1 |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 05:38 PM Response to Reply #84 |
266. S/he's hurting your brain? You have a lawsuit! n/t |
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Buns_of_Fire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
76. Oh, heck. Just taze 'em. It's The American Way! |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:01 AM Response to Reply #76 |
95. fuck taze.... they might live. just shoot 'em. or hang 'em then it can be made public. nt |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
77. I hope the judge says,... |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:46 AM Response to Reply #77 |
105. Buy a fan? |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #105 |
167. Play dumb much? |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #167 |
180. No. Give dumb answers much? |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #180 |
188. . |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:07 PM Response to Reply #188 |
206. So, other than an attempt to insult me you have no answer? |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #206 |
236. Get a fan. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:33 PM Response to Reply #236 |
282. Yes, you are simple..... |
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cherish44 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
81. My neighbor has this butt ugly garden gnome I have to look at |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #81 |
156. Their Right To Gnomes End At Your Eyes Dammit!!!!! |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #81 |
260. This him? |
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BakedAtAMileHigh (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
82. Nazis?? Fascism?? |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:51 AM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Its like when MJ finally becomes legal... |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:08 PM Response to Reply #86 |
123. That won't be too easy if your neighbors know what they are doing. :) |
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BakedAtAMileHigh (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:11 PM Response to Reply #123 |
126. Don't Criticize It! |
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BakedAtAMileHigh (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:10 PM Response to Reply #86 |
125. riiiight |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #125 |
147. Backyards are public? |
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BakedAtAMileHigh (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #147 |
149. air is public, genius |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:09 PM Response to Reply #149 |
153. No more bbq's, fire pits, citronella candles, etc. |
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BakedAtAMileHigh (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:12 PM Response to Reply #153 |
157. if they damage other people's homes or health |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #157 |
158. So a cigarette smoked outside is damaging their neighbors |
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BakedAtAMileHigh (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #158 |
161. duplicate |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #161 |
164. Really? |
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BakedAtAMileHigh (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:14 PM Response to Reply #164 |
209. I'm Sorry |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:17 PM Response to Reply #209 |
213. And smoking a cigarette in your back yard is legal, right? |
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BakedAtAMileHigh (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #158 |
162. If your car is a POS then it IS banned |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:33 PM Response to Reply #82 |
169. Quite right. |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
89. I can't even leave my front door open and enjoy a cool summer breeze at night |
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Stevenmarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #89 |
137. Maybe |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #137 |
143. We have a fence between us that goes up about 7 feet |
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BakedAtAMileHigh (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #89 |
146. His Right To Poison You |
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DaveinJapan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 05:24 PM Response to Reply #89 |
263. Have you politely explained the situation to him about wanting to open the windows |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:01 PM Response to Reply #89 |
287. My husband's best friend lives in a row house. His neighbor smokes so much |
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EndersDame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 01:40 AM Response to Reply #89 |
299. Have you tried talking face to face in a polite manner with your neighbor |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
94. Deleted sub-thread |
-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
96. Only in CA. |
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winyanstaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
97. wouldnt it be cheaper if they just bought a fan? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:12 AM Response to Reply #97 |
99. if i were really really bothered, i would merely point a fan in that direction |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
103. fuck these people |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
108. This has to be a first. If it does turn into a suit, it better get tossed out. |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
109. I have no problem at all with people smoking |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #109 |
110. True, its annoying like when people breathe... |
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rubberducky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #109 |
120. People who sneeze in public without covering thier mouth really iritate me, but |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
127. My next-door neighbors smoke outside and it bugs the hell out of me. |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
134. I hope they win the case. |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 12:59 AM Response to Reply #134 |
297. If their smoke is getting into your lungs from across the street, you need to quit sucking so hard. |
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cherish44 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
135. Where I used to work people would go outside and smoke during their lunch break |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:47 PM Response to Reply #135 |
138. As an ex-smoker, I've seen both sides, and the smell lingers much longer than the visible smoke. |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 02:05 PM Response to Reply #138 |
182. One of the side effects of antismoking are stink zones but also social zones |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 04:41 PM Response to Reply #182 |
250. Believe it or not, smokers can't smell it. That's a HUGE part of this problem |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #135 |
175. I have the feeling they just don't like these particular neighbors. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
148. Man I Wish I Lived Near Them. I Would Use A Whole Day To Just Stand On The Sidewalk Chain Smoking. |
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BakedAtAMileHigh (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:09 PM Response to Reply #148 |
154. is that anti-cancer ribbon supposed to be ironic |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:16 PM Response to Reply #154 |
159. Nope. Course, This Has NOTHING To Do With Cancer. |
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BakedAtAMileHigh (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #159 |
163. I can run faster than you! |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #163 |
165. Betcha You Can't. |
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BakedAtAMileHigh (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #165 |
174. What A Tough Guy! |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:16 PM Response to Reply #174 |
212. Wait... So Because I Smoke I Can't Be Anti-Cancer? That's The Dumbest Thing I've Ever Heard. |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 06:54 PM Response to Reply #212 |
275. No, pot smoking does not cause cancer. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:48 PM Response to Reply #275 |
290. Oh No Genius? |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 12:23 AM Response to Reply #290 |
295. Here's one that casts doubt on that exact same study: |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:52 PM Response to Reply #148 |
178. I see that you are really concerned with finding a solution to the problem |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
151. Second hand smoke is only dangerous indoors |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #151 |
179. Perhaps you could be serious with some proof? |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 02:40 PM Response to Reply #151 |
190. It may not be *dangerous* outdoors but it's still annoying |
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nc4bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
181. They couldn't live in my neck o' the woods. People burn it all out here. |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
192. What a pair of asshats... (Donna and Richard Ganguet ) |
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Throd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
204. I live in El Dorado Hills. Barbecues seem to be something of a religion around here. |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
219. Intolerant American Strikes Again |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
227. Yikes! You've met my neighbors! ... Oh no, it's another couple just like them... |
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Dollface (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
239. I've seen the future. You know what it is? |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 04:52 PM Response to Reply #239 |
255. Fucking Bingo! +1 |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 06:11 PM Response to Reply #255 |
271. Good post. But you're making sense, and the control obsessed |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 05:02 PM Response to Reply #239 |
259. +1 for Denis Leary |
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dusmcj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:45 PM Response to Reply #239 |
286. thank you. The hallmonitors are onto you now though. /nt |
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jeffrey_X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
268. good. |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
269. Now this is and without a doubt the biggest crybaby in the world! |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 06:06 PM Response to Reply #269 |
270. You sure about that? |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 07:26 PM Response to Reply #270 |
277. Lol, I have to admit, that one definitely beats this OP |
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dusmcj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
284. it's a shame the douchebag industry moved to Cali /nt |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
289. The wind always blows the same direction there? |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
291. Do the smokers drink soda??? That must make their 'crime' heinous. |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 12:27 AM Response to Original message |
296. May their lawsuit go up in smoke! |
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