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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 12:12 PM Original message |
Here is a picture of the decline of America in one graph: |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. When people talk about "the good old days," |
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dragonlady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Part of the conservative plan is to keep us overworked and stressed out |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 11:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
32. Also in the 50s |
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pundaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 02:50 AM Response to Reply #32 |
43. So if taking out a country's industrial is bad |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 07:08 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. You could say that, yes. |
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taggline (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 07:23 AM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Hell yes!!! |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 04:53 PM Response to Reply #32 |
64. And we still had an under class, it was just mostly one race |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
60. they also avoid the topic of the top marginal tax rates of the time. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
61. I think we need a slightly more radical solution: co-ops instead of corporations |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
2. The current recession is the "Cause and Effect" of that trend |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
3. True, and I'll never forget nor forgive the other unions that failed to support PATCO. |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. PATCO endorsed Reagan. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 04:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Oh yes, they jumped right on that band-hearse along with the rest of them. |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 06:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Did people really know what they were voting for when they elected the Ray Gun? |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 08:06 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. In so far as they voted to avoid the reality they lived in, I say that yes they did. |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 08:11 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Yes, and I was hoping the Republicans would be stupid enough to nominate him |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 09:32 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Good point. Do you think we might end up with another John Anderson |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 03:11 AM Response to Reply #12 |
44. Recall that Carter faced a significant primary challenge |
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Sinti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 12:41 PM Response to Reply #44 |
58. Perfect puppet |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 08:08 AM Response to Reply #12 |
52. Reagan also sold his tax cuts with a bait & switch... |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 04:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
66. Sure they did |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 08:13 AM Response to Reply #10 |
53. Which other unions endorsed Reagan Greyhound? |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 05:24 PM Response to Reply #53 |
67. I don't remember which, if any, endorsed him. My comment was about the unions not supporting |
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billh58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 10:07 AM Response to Reply #5 |
56. I was the |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. What a complete and utter nightmare. |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 07:59 AM Response to Reply #3 |
51. And usually they "faced off" against... |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
4. Corporations said unions were no longer needed. People believed it. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 12:49 AM Response to Reply #4 |
39. Oh yes, the benevolent |
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liberalmuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
6. I always knew it started with Reagan. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
7. That scumbag Reagan |
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abq e streeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 01:44 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. +1 ( and I suspect , a hell of a lot more than that) |
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Lugnut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 12:27 AM Response to Reply #7 |
37. +2 n/t |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 07:06 AM Response to Reply #7 |
46. +3 |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 07:32 AM Response to Reply #7 |
50. I would love to piss on his grave |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
11. K&R |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
13. Perfect |
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Autonomy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
14. And global warming is caused by the lack of pirates |
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dschis (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 11:53 PM Response to Reply #14 |
35. No it's not |
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Joe the Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
15. HA! there is constant steady decline during the Reagan years, what a coincidence. n/t |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
16. where are your other numbers? |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 07:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. I was trying to make a brief comment, not write a Masters thesis. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 04:50 PM Response to Reply #20 |
63. Arguments backed with facts are generally a lot more compelling. |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 10:03 PM Response to Reply #16 |
29. All those numbers are moving in the same direction, so you don't really need them |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
62. That's not very convincing. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
17. Hey!...Whatever happened to... |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 09:43 AM Response to Reply #17 |
55. Because it's in THEIR best interest NOT too, that's why. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
18. Wow, that almost fits with this: |
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lib2DaBone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
19. Our parents fought hard for what little gains we made... |
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Autonomy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
23. The decline in union membership since the 1970's |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 09:19 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. The PATCO breakup was a landmark because what Reagan did was give |
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Autonomy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 10:00 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. I wouldn't call it impunity |
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Autonomy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 10:00 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. duplicate |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
24. Everything is cyclical. |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
30. I certainly can't disagree or quibble with the graph. It speaks volumes. But I do have |
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Autonomy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 11:32 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. You're correct |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 11:56 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Unions may have a vested interest in not allowing just anyone in |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 12:40 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. LOL. Yeah, maybe not! You are right about the rise in wages and bennies IF it's a |
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Altoid_Cyclist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 06:26 AM Response to Reply #30 |
45. I hated unions and what some of the union bosses stood for back then. |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
34. K & R To JR : ) |
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Oldtimeralso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
40. K & R and proud to help union solidarity n/t |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 02:15 AM Response to Original message |
41. There was a show on FSTV about a theater group in SF. |
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cadaverdog (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 02:34 AM Response to Original message |
42. Co-incidentally, I just finished viewing my dvr copy of |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 07:30 AM Response to Original message |
49. divided we fall, united we stand |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
54. And Here's A Related One... |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
59. self-delete |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
65. Not really, I'm afraid |
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