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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 10:15 AM
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Rich People's War
Lots of threads on the good and Bad of the new war direction.

Aside from those discussions it is evident that this decision was made with the advice and consent of people who are not worried about paying for a doctor's visit, the fuel pump going out in their car, or whether the power company will shut off the electricity.

They aren't worried about finding a job or buying coats for their kids for school or figuring out how to make $10 last until next Monday.

They don't lay in bed at night worrying that another year has passed and they are further and further from their dreams and goals and that there is absolutely no realistic appraisal of the situation that would lead to it being better in the foreseeable future.

The decision to throw America's dwindling resources at a dubious war was made by well-off, comfortable people who do not see despair and depression on the faces and in the souls of the millions of Americans that don't work for hedge funds and bailed out banks and don't sit on ten different corporate boards.
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 10:17 AM
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1. Eleoquent! n/t
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 10:18 AM
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2. A good point and one that really bothers me.
Everyone around the Pres. and giving advice to the Pres. is very well off.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 10:23 AM
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3. Hard to imagine it any other way, really.
Generally, people who are in government or advise government are relatively successful. Which people who haven't had success in their careers would you suggest as Presidential advisors? I'm serious. I'm not doing all that well financially, myself. I don't hear my phone ringing, so I'm posting here.

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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 10:24 AM
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4. I was just talking with Mrs. Lib about this and all our recent wars
being for the benefit of the rich.
And how they are fought by the poor.
And how the poor are given a load of crap about freedom and love of country and heroism to do the bidding of the rich.
And how the system is set up to widen the gap between the rich and poor.
And when the poor ask for a crust of bread from the rich that they served, they are told that it is unaffordable. The poor are told to hide in the shadows.
And as resources become more scarce, we will yet again turn to force to secure these resources.


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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 12:39 PM
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6. You are right.
I was not even trying to ascribe base motives of war profit or oil profit, though they are obviously a part.

My thoughts here were just about the billions of dollars going there while so many are so desperate. And the advisors and politicians and pundits and the president never see those faces or have to worry about ever dealing with what this war will cause to so many.
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panAmerican Donating Member (864 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 10:35 AM
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5. Too true
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 12:50 PM
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7. K&R great post.
You could also apply this to the problems with the health care bill and just about everything else as well. Although you did forget to mention that none of the people making this decision is going to have to go to Afghanistan and put their ass on the line either. They'll leave that to the peasants as well.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:38 PM
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8. And with the current economy
there are more and more peasants all the time.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:40 PM
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9. You can always tell how serious a threat is
by the elites behavior....let me just say, if Afghanistan was that big of a threat, there would have been a draft, they would have sent their own kids, and there would have been no calls for shopping back in 2001.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:43 PM
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10. As all wars. the rich start them, the poor fight them, and the dead end them. nt
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:52 PM
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11. Well said.

What we gonna do about it?
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 06:43 AM
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12. Hear, hear...
K&R
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