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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 06:50 PM
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I'm against the escalation. BUT I don't think DUers who support it
are automatically evil ghouls with blood dripping off their fingers or merely Obamabots who are mindlessly devoted to the President and will back anything he proposes. And I think suggesting that is repugnant and pretty, well, mindless. I haven't seen any "rah, rah, let's kill them all and let god sort them out" posts from DUers. I've seen some thoughtful posts supporting the escalation and some pretty dumb ones as well as some woefully uninformed ones, but I've seen that from those who I'm aligned with about this as well.

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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 06:53 PM
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1. Hell no. I'm a war monger.
I mong war.

:sarcasm:
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 06:55 PM
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2. Rare sighting!!
A post on DU understanding the viewpoints a poster disagrees with! A noteworthy day!

Commendable Cali. Bravo!

Julie
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 09:52 AM
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28. So rare I found myself looking for a hidden meaning or a sarcasm tag.
:)
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 06:58 PM
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3. too bad you didn't feel this way back in the primaries of 2008.
you were viscious.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 07:00 PM
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5. you were an Edwards supporter, I take it. n/t
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 07:03 PM
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6. for a short time a lag over from 2004
All the gnashing of teeth and angst over his torture, war, healthcare, lgbt, education, womens rights etc was pointed out then and dismissed by people like you.

You treated a good many on this board to your brand of cod swalloping tripe on a daily basis, cali.

Have you reflected on it at all?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 07:06 PM
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8. lol. tough if you didn't like what I had to say then. tough if you don't like it now
and that's not how you spell the wonderful word "codswallop". Furthermore, using the phrase "codswalloping trip" is like saying the dead corpse, bean.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 07:10 PM
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11. I just find it so cute that you have so much understanding, doll
Too bad it's only now, after you have been so wrong about something, do you call for understanding.

But hey, I understand, it sucks to be so fuckin wrong about something, it's kinda hard to admit it, huh?

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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 07:51 PM
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15. ANYBODY other than Barack Obama would have been "so
fucking wrong."
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 02:01 PM
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32. and that's not how you spell tripe. and that's a word you've certainly heard plenty of times
Edited on Thu Dec-03-09 02:01 PM by bettyellen
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 12:07 PM
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29. I remember it well
And since rarely even look at her posts. Still, this one was excellent so I thought I would encourage this sort of thinking. Might make for a nice remindeer should the viciousness rear it's ugly head again. ;-)

Julie
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 12:10 PM
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30. WTF. Are you her mother in law???
Judgmental, much???
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27inCali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 06:59 PM
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4. thank you
I don't think anyone feels good about this.

I think about one half of us is certain this is a disatrous mistake.

and the other half are praying it's not.

I don't see much difference in those two positions.

but some people get off on flame-wars.
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 07:05 PM
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7. Open-mindness = True Democrat
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 07:07 PM
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9. +100, n/t
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 07:08 PM
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10. Good Post! n/t
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eqfan592 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 07:17 PM
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12. THANK YOU! +1 (nt)
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StarfarerBill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 07:25 PM
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13. Thanks, cali; we needed that.
:thumbsup:
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 07:44 PM
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14. Thanks cali. Coming from you, that means alot. n/t
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 07:54 PM
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16. Nice post
:thumbsup:
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 08:06 PM
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17. Well said.
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Atticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 08:38 PM
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18. Cali, if you keep making sense, I may have to start agreeing with you! nt
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R. P. McMurphy Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 08:59 PM
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19. +1 : } n/t
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 09:03 PM
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20. No, they just don't have friends and/or loved ones on their 4th deployment.
It's easy to be for WAR when it doesn't come close to you personally. If all you know is pictures on a TV screen. I've been to Walter Reed and have seen those affected by WAR. Anyone who has seen how over-burdened our military is now, would NOT be for an escalation.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 09:05 PM
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21. You are in error
You don't know all, see all. People with similar experiences can come to different opinions.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 09:36 PM
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23. Tell me: Do you have loved ones who have returned? Do you personally KNOW
Edited on Wed Dec-02-09 09:37 PM by ShortnFiery
one Soldier, Sailor or Marine that is going back for their 3rd or 4th deployment? I do. Have you talked with troops who have been maimed and suffer from brain trauma and/or PTSD. I have.

This is like "a game" to most here because less than 1% of the USA population is directly effected.

This is LIFE or DEATH for our young troops.

This is NOT a game.
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 09:09 PM
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22. I think DU'ers who support the escalation
honestly believe that it will save more lives than pulling out now would do - in other words, they believe it is the right thing to do. I don't necessarily agree with their analysis, but automatically labeling Obama supporters "warmongers" is an unwarranted broad brush attack.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 09:40 PM
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24. I think they are either Naive or trust our Government too much. I also believe that although they
mean well, they have not studied Military Science. If they had, they'd realize that no modern military has conquered Afghanistan.

It is a fool's errand: A Graveyard for Empires.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 09:14 AM
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25. kick against self-righteousness and sanctimony
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 09:48 AM
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26. That's a fair statement of events
K&R
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 09:49 AM
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27. Thanks, Solly Mack.
Coming from a Duer I respect quite a bit.... that means quite a bit.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 12:12 PM
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31. Thanks for this outrageously civil post, cali - I wish the hysterics and
the haters would take a clue....
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