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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 07:30 PM Original message |
IRONY DEFINED -- Press, Lies and Videotape |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
1. I find the mandate thing more troubling |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 07:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Oh, it's troubling, no doubt. He's a liar, and I didn't vote for a liar. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 07:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Remember him threatning bankruptcy if HCR didn't pass a week before the vote |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 07:42 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I know I'm not -- I won't be voting for him again. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 07:44 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. He has a primary opponent I'll vote for the opponent |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. I understand your pragmatism. I don't share it, but I get it. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 07:53 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. If it is GOP vs. Democrat |
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Jeffersons Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. so, who are you going to voe for, a Republican? How'd we get into this BIG mess anyhow? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 08:04 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Probably won't vote unless there's a decent challenger. |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
5. You are not the only one |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 07:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. It's starting to develop |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 07:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. pattern of behavior. credibility |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 08:07 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Hugh, I'm starting to get a little sick of your chest beating |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 08:13 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I think you're realizing that I make good points |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 08:17 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Videotape doesn't lie -- unlike both Obama and Clinton. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 08:19 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Like I said, beat that horse - beat it good. Beat it to death |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 08:20 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. You call it beating a dead horse. I don't see the issue as dead. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 08:32 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Kick! |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 08:18 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. On the flip side when one is looking for success they will find it |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 08:30 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Agree with your subject line. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 08:34 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. I think I was reasonable here |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 08:49 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. On the latter issue, I'm supportive as you know |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 08:52 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. His mind changed rather quickly |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 08:59 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. I wasn't there |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 09:02 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Yes the one economic site I read is convinced the bill is a back door to single payer |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 09:15 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. That's a little 'out there' at this point, but not beyond the pale IMO. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 09:16 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. If he Shock Doctorines Aetna and Cigna |
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PufPuf23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 10:58 PM Response to Reply #24 |
45. You seldom make good points and seem asleep. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 07:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. I'll concede that mostly he's dealt in broken promises, rather than outright lies. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 07:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. More like a serial exaggerator |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. You haven't been looking. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 07:51 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. A broken promise is a lie, if the person promising has the power to fulfill the promise. |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 07:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. I would accept.. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
14. Beat this one for all it's worth my friend - beat it good. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 08:03 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. I hate liars. Sue me. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 08:08 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. You probably shouldn't vote or pay attention to any politics. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 08:15 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Now we're talkin' |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 08:18 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. LOL, all too true. |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 08:33 PM Response to Reply #23 |
33. Yeah, reacting to disappointment has never made a difference in politics. |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
17. This note's for you. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 08:02 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. I'm all over that thread, which started with an excellent OP. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
41. "Remember Tuzla? Clinton's Waterloo" Yeah, the fabriacation kept alive for more than a decade? |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 09:32 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Sniper Fire Fail |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 09:42 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Yes, it did. n/t |
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pnorman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
44. "There's not a dime's worth of difference between Obama and Lieberman!" |
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