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toopers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 09:35 AM
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Obama gives Interpol free hand in U.S.
Source: Washington Examiner

No presidential statement or White House press briefing was held on it. In fact, all that can be found about it on the official White House Web site is the Dec. 17 announcement and one-paragraph text of President Obama's Executive Order 12425, with this innocuous headline: "Amending Executive Order 12425 Designating Interpol as a public international organization entitled to enjoy certain privileges, exemptions, and immunities."

There are multiple reasons why this Obama decision is so deeply disturbing. First, the Obama order reverses a 1983 Reagan administration decision in order to grant Interpol, the International Criminal Police Organization, two key privileges. First, Obama has granted Interpol the ability to operate within the territorial limits of the United States without being subject to the same constitutional restraints that apply to all domestic law enforcement agencies such as the FBI. Second, Obama has exempted Interpol's domestic facilities -- including its office within the U.S. Department of Justice -- from search and seizure by U.S. authorities and from disclosure of archived documents in response to Freedom of Information Act requests filed by U.S. citizens. Think very carefully about what you just read: Obama has given an international law enforcement organization that is accountable to no other national authority the ability to operate as it pleases within our own borders, and he has freed it from the most basic measure of official transparency and accountability, the FOIA.



Read more: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Obama-gives-Interpol-free-hand-in-U_S_-8697583-80291137.html



Unfortunately, I was pointed to this by a repub coworker, and I know that The Examiner is a conservative rag, but if this is true it is very worrisome! Especially the part about search and seizure. Someone that knows more than me please give your take.

Thanks - Toopers
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 09:42 AM
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1. if this is true, it is worrisome, and disgusting. hope someone here can either confirm or deny.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 09:44 AM
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3. I't not true
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_12425

the ruling specifically expempts the things the right wingers are claiming.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 09:43 AM
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2. This is absolutely wrong and false
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_12425


The act specifically expempts the things you are claiming.
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pissedoff01 Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 09:44 AM
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4. STUPID idea. Hope it's not true
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 09:45 AM
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5. “There is nothing newsworthy here”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/31/world/31interpol.html?_r=2

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Obama administration and Interpol officials say the fears and accusations are based on ignorance about how Interpol works and about the context and impact of the order, which was issued on Dec. 17 without any statement.

“There is nothing newsworthy here,” said Christina Reynolds, a White House spokeswoman.

Contrary to its portrayal in some movies, Interpol has no police force that conducts investigations and makes arrests. Rather, it serves its 188 member countries by working as a clearinghouse for police departments in different nations to share law enforcement information — like files on wanted criminals and terrorists, stolen cars and passports, and notices that a law enforcement agency has issued an arrest warrant for a fugitive.

In the United States, a bureau at the Justice Department staffed by American officials transmits information between law enforcement agencies and Interpol. If a foreign country issues an arrest warrant for a person inside the United States, it is up to the United States government, based on its own laws, to decide whether to apprehend the suspect.

“We don’t send officers into the field to arrest people; we don’t have agents that go investigate crimes,” said Rachel Billington, an Interpol spokeswoman. “This is always done by the national police in the member country under their national laws.”

When public international organizations are operating on United States soil, a law allows the president to grant them certain rights and immunities, just as foreign embassies receive privileges. More than 70 organizations — including the International Committee of the Red Cross, the World Bank and the International Pacific Halibut Commission — receive those rights.


In 1983, President Ronald Reagan extended some rights — including immunity from lawsuits or prosecution for official acts — to Interpol, which was holding its annual meeting in the United States. But Mr. Reagan’s order did not include other standard privileges — like immunity from certain tax requirements and from having its property or records subject to search and seizure — because at the time, Interpol had no permanent office or employees on United States soil.

That changed in 2004, when Interpol opened a liaison office at the United Nations in New York City. The office consists of five staff members, Ms. Billington said, and they have access to law enforcement information submitted by other countries with restrictions on who may receive it.

“When the office opened in 2004, we said look, we’d like to have the Interpol staff working in the office in New York afforded the same immunities as other international organizations,” Ms. Billington said. “It’s only for the New York office.”

The State Department recommended approving the request, but the Bush White House did not complete the matter before its term ended, and so it rolled over.

The White House said it put out no statement with Mr. Obama’s order because it viewed the matter as uninteresting.

LaTonya Miller, the spokeswoman for the Justice Department’s Interpol bureau, said the order would have no effect on the bureau. It routinely receives and responds to Freedom of Information Act requests, she said, and will continue to do so.

“Nothing has changed,” she said. “We’ve been really concerned about all the misinformation that has been out there on the blogs.”
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 09:48 AM
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6. if that is true, it is a relief. thank you for posting that.
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Mudoria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 09:51 AM
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Thanks for clearing that up..
the thought of some foreign police force having jurisdiction within US borders would be a little hard to take.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 10:01 AM
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8. Thanks. That seems to clear it up. nt
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 09:51 AM
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7. Well if nothing else
it will allow the arrest of contractors for crimes abroad.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 10:01 AM
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9. It pretty much only does taxes.
Mostly Obama extended tax benefits to Interpol--no more property tax, no FICA, etc. Not just a big deal, unless they're US citizens (a number of US citizens working for international organizations and paid in the US and living in the US are exempt from taxes).

Oddly, there's still an exception made for Interpol.

This little bit doesn't apply (the section in 2(d) referring to taxes):

"International organizations shall enjoy the status, immunities, exemptions, and privileges set forth in this section, as follows: . . .
"2(d) Insofar as concerns customs duties and internal-revenue taxes imposed upon or by reason of importation, and the procedures in connection therewith . . . the privileges, exemptions, and immunities to which international organizations shall be entitled shall be those accorded under similar circumstances to foreign governments."

In other words, Interpol can't function as tax-free import agency.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 10:03 AM
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10. Creeping moransim is everywhere.
If it sounds like foolish fear-mongering, it probably is foolish fear-mongering.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 10:07 AM
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11. Toopers, reading the link provided by NJ averick
and reading the act, it seems the only immunities conferred relate to Interpol being safe from financial lawsuits and tax seizure. The law is essentially the same diplomatic protection that embassies enjoy.
It does not give Interpol the power to affect Americans in any way. Just talks about legal immunity from Interpol property being seized.
Feel free to read the Act....it is short and clear.
Now, back to your regular DU programming...........
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 10:29 AM
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12. Examiner 100% WRONG on story -- tell your coworker he's been scammed...
... by a right wing rag that is working AGAINST all of our interests.
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toopers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 10:39 AM
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13. Thanks friends
EOM
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 10:44 AM
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14. No problem.
I am way more worried about what the FBI or CIA or other alphabet agencies are going to do here than about Interpol.
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 11:21 AM
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16. A free-rein (or reign?) Interpol would be a worry
I doubt Interpol would be any more respectful of fourth-amendment rights as any U.S. agency. I don't know if France or England have any equivalent right in their constitutions.

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 11:53 AM
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18. Actually I'd take Interpol over the local cops or FBI.
But opinions will vary.
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 11:17 AM
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15. well, if Reagan took it away it must be good. I'm ok with it.


it might be a way to imprison the bloody handed neo cons
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Don Caballero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 11:36 AM
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17. Another botched attempt from the Reich Wing to harm our President
Beware of such stories and make sure of their validity. The Repugs are out in full force trying to slander our President.
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