Remember all the shite about Obama and Dawn Johnson

[cali]

that was posted here a couple of weeks ago?

He's renominating her.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/06/obama-frustrated-by-slow_n_413475.html

[Ken Burch]

1. Y'know, you could just have said she was renominated.

Until this item came out, those who said she'd be discarded had no reason to believe otherwise.

Isn't it enough to be happy that she wasn't thrown under the bus after all?

(I say this as a person who wasn't actually involved in the issue of this person's nomination at any prior moment, as far as I can remember.)

[cali]

5. I didn't feel like it. Look, I"m all for criticizing the President

I'm hardly a "cheerleader" but I think that it's going beyond that into demonization. And those threads a couple of weeks ago on this subject were, to my mind, a prime example of that.

[NJmaverick]

6. You could show enough honor to admit and apologize when you're wrong

instead of whining about being called out about it.

[Ken Burch]

8. As far as I know, I wasn't involved in any of the Dawn Johnson threads

So I don't HAVE any wrong to admit.

[bigtree]

2. yes I do. Glad to see this

"Johnson is eminently qualified to head the OLC. She has been an outspoken critic of Bush’s torture and eavesdropping programs, argues persuasively for accountability for wrongdoing, and has written passionately in support of checks and balances and against executive branch power grabs. She is a strong progressive candidate who could restore the tainted OLC to a place of legal professionalism and pride. And, like the majority of Americans, Johnson thinks abortions should be safe and legal in most cases."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5645550

thanks for posting :hi:

[midnight]

4. Thank you for sharing this.

[midnight]

3. I only know about Louis Butler. Smart man and Wisconsin needs him....

Dawn Johnsen, Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel
Christopher Schroeder, Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Policy
Mary Smith, Assistant Attorney General for the Tax Division
Craig Becker, National Labor Relations Board
Louis Butler, U.S. District Judge for the Western District of Wisconsin
Edward Chen, U.S. Magistrate Judge for the Northern District of California
David Teeples, Army brigadier general

[NJmaverick]

7. How many of the bashers will have the integrity to admit they were wrong?

[liberal N proud]

9. First I have heard of any "shit" about Obama and Dawn Johnson

[DevonRex]

10. Well here's the link to the shit:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=7336224

[berni_mccoy]

14. Well well well... more shit stirred up by FDL. Whodaguessed?!

[DevonRex]

15. Surprise, surprise, surprise.

Some folks will believe anything, I guess. You could say they're "true believers."

[DevonRex]

13. And here's the shit in GDP:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=98204&mesg_id=98204

[mopinko]

11. who's taking bets?

there was a thread about over and unders on mea culpas. sucker bet, tho.

[jgraz]

12. Excellent. I wonder what would have happened had nobody spoken up.

Not sure what the problem is with people demanding what they want from their politicians... :shrug:

[DevonRex]

16. OMG.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

And you're the OP for one of those threads, posting a bullshit article that was totally wrong. So now you're gonna pat yourself on the back and pretend you and the author of that bullshit article had something to do with it? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[berni_mccoy]

18. +1 jgraz thinks he has Obama's ear. He's the savior of our party.

[DevonRex]

20. And after FDL linking up with the teabaggers, anybody who thinks Obama

listens to them is smoking something mighty powerful.

[jgraz]

21. And you think you have another body part of his.

You missed a spot on your chin, sweetheart.

[jgraz]

19. OMG WTF

What, exactly, is your problem with people holding their government accountable? You may be personally too cowed or lazy to do anything, but why do you have a problem with other people participating?

[DevonRex]

22. I have a HUGE problem with folks who believe any two-bit bullshit "journalist"

who writes crazy anti-Obama ravings without even waiting for actual FACTS to come out. Talk about "true believers," those are your "true believers" right there.

[jgraz]

23. So we should wait until Obama *actually* shitcans the nomination before we speak up?

Do you really understand how democracy works?

Just in case you're unclear, I also called the White House, my congresswoman and both of my Senators. And I encouraged other to do so as well.

Let's say, just for argument's sake, that the article we posted was total and complete bullshit. What possible harm is there in calling politicians to let them know we're watching and that we have opinions on what they do? Is there any answer you can come up with, other than the fact that you dislike having your personal idol criticized?

[DevonRex]

25. Go ahead and pat yourself on the back again for something that was gonna happen ANYWAY.

The article was bullshit from the get-go.

[jgraz]

27. You didn't answer the question

Just to refresh your memory, here it is again:

Let's say, just for argument's sake, that the article we posted was total and complete bullshit. What possible harm is there in calling politicians to let them know we're watching and that we have opinions on what they do? Is there any answer you can come up with, other than the fact that you dislike having your personal idol criticized?

So... why all the hostility toward people who actually participate in their government, as opposed to slagging dissenters on a message board?

[DevonRex]

28. That reminds me of when I told my sister to stop sending me her teabagger

racist, secessionist bullshit emails. She pretended that all she wanted to do was to get people to pray about the nasty stuff she passed around. Regardless of the fact that she never once asked anybody to "pray" about any of it. What was there to pray for anyway? That teabaggers would miraculously grow brains and hearts?

You posted a bullshit, fact-free article and now you pretend that all you wanted to do was get people to participate in their government. Regardless of the fact that you never once asked people to make phone calls. No. All you did was post yet another bullshit article from a dubious source as if it were fact.

[jgraz]

30. OK, so what you're saying is you want me to treat you like a child. Understandable.

Most of the people on this board know how to participate in our government without being told. I didn't realize you were one of the few people who did not know that phone lines have been installed in our nation's capital for quite a few years now.

And speaking of acting like a child, the information in the article is not bullshit just because you say it is. Was Johnsen's nomination returned, or was it not? Did the Senate skip a promised an up-or-down vote or didn't they? Does the nomination process have to start over or doesn't it? Was her nomination stalled for longer than any other nominee, or wasn't it?

The opinion and conclusions of the piece are pretty well delineated for those with critical thinking skills. You may not agree with the conclusions the author arrives at, but calling the article "fact-free" betrays your own lack of reading comprehension.

[DevonRex]

33. Did Obama "kill the nomination?" Of course not. The article was bogus

from the title to the last sentence. And yeah, my sister said she expected everybody to pray that Obama was really an American citizen and that states wouldn't have to secede and that all Mexican immigrants would stop being criminals, too.

And that was bullshit, too. She intended people to believe that Obama was born in Kenya and that the southern states and Oklahoma would secede and that of course all Mexican immigrants are criminals.

The article YOU posted intended people to believe that Obama killed the nomination.

[jgraz]

35. Once again, you fail to discriminate between fact and opinion

The facts listed in the article were essentially correct. The author believed that Obama had killed the nomination, which is a conclusion I agreed with. Given the long list of outright betrayals by this administration, it was a pretty safe bet.

I still think it's a safe bet. I will bet that, this time next year, Dawn Johnsen will still not be confirmed. I hope I'm wrong, but I have recent history on my side.

[inna]

29. Thank you for actually participating! *If* she actually gets renominated, we'll owe that

100% to the progressive activists who kept Obama's feet to the fire. Thank you for doing your civic duty! :D

:applause:

:yourock:

The president, along with Democratic leadership in Congress, has been criticized by progressive activists for an apparent unwillingness to press for Johnsen's confirmation. As of several weeks ago, it was largely assumed that her nomination was dead.

A re-nomination, of course, would change that perception and already the administration seems to be striking a much more aggressive tone when it comes to condemning the delaying tactics deployed by Senate Republicans -- when it comes to nominees and actual legislation.

[jgraz]

31. Hey, love the new avatar.

:evilgrin:

[inna]

32. .

:D

:toast:

[cali]

36. no. you owe it to Obama. He's the one who nominated her in the first place, genius.

[inna]

37. genius yourself.

you're not even making a bit of sense, but what else is new.

[DevonRex]

17. *crickets* You would have thought that folks would be jumping for joy

that Obama's renominating her, considering all the angst over the "Obama kills the Johnsen nomination" here not too long ago.

[Gold Metal Flake]

24. That is good.

The impatient me wants recess appointments. The pragmatic me wants Obama to continue to show that the Pukes are obstructionists. The realist me knows that the news about all of the obstruction is not getting through the corporate media filter. Gimme a minute and I can have more internal conflicts about this for you.

[DevonRex]

26. LOL! Well put.

And thanks for making me smile. :hi:

[Enrique]

34. it's funny about anonymous sources on Huffington Post

when they are critical of Obama, people trash Huff Post, and tell stories about when they first found out how bad Huff Post was, and trash Arianna, and denounce the use of anonymous sources as completely worthless.

But when the story puts Obama in a good light, people seem to take the story as truth. They don't even mention the sourcing at all. They don't express any skepticism at all.