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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 10:14 AM
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I am glad we lost a Senate seat
All having 60 seats did for us was to produce horrible bills. We may not be able to get a lot passed now but it will be Republican's fault instead of Democrats and now the Bills that do get filibustered by Republicans will be Democratic Bills that people really want. I know of very few that want the Health Care Bill the Senate passed. It stinks...Now when fifty three "Democrats" present a Bill it won't be so riddled with Conservative SHIT..Screw Ben Nelson and Joe Lieberman. Now we don't need them for a fucking thing. Now we can let the people be the judge and I will bet most anything they will not be happy with Republican obstruction. It worked well when Democrats had 60 and could theoretically pass anything. People got the impression things were being rammed down their throats. Now that can not happen. Republicans have to participate or tell the people why and they don't have any good reasons why except just to make Obama and the Democrats fail. This was a blessing in disguise IMO
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a kennedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 10:23 AM
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1. ditto.....
I never thought the dems DID have that super majority all the talking heads talk of.....how many d*mn blue dogs were counted in that 60??? D*mn.......never in ideology did the Dems have a super majority.....just those arseholes with a "D" after their name and that does not mean they were true to the Democratic principles.
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 10:26 AM
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2. You make some good points, but it is never good to lose a seat.
Particularly THIS seat.

We never really had a functional majority and shouldn't have tried to govern like we did.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 10:29 AM
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4. What you said. nt
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 10:28 AM
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3. List me the bills that Senate has passed that are horrible
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 10:34 AM
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5. Lets start with the most obvious, The Health Care Reform Bill
Would you suggest it is a good "Democratic" Bill. How about the War funding Bill, you like that one? It is the Largest Defense Bill in our nation's history. You like the Credit Card Bill? It is a piece of total crap IMO. What does it truly accomplish. It has more loopholes for the banks than it has good for the people..Better yet maybe you could name some Senate Bills that were more for the people than for the elite..
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 12:04 PM
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11. S.1692
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NecklyTyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 10:52 AM
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6. The new and the shiny will soon wear off the Republican's new found power

The repukes think that they are on a roll, but in the next few days they will run out of steam.

By the time the State of the Union address is over, the Republicans will see that the difference between 60 and 59 is no different than when we were waiting for Al Franken to be seated. The Republicans couldn't win when the fight was on between Coleman and Franken, the won't be able to win now either


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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 11:20 AM
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7. I wish we had a political system in which positive things could actually be accomplished.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 11:26 AM
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9. They will be, the American people are getting very impatient.
Americans in general want most of the things Democrats campaign on. That is why they were elected with a substantial mandate. It is when they refuse to legislate toward those goals that they fall out of favor. Americans don't want to go back to the Republican way of ruling the country. They want people there that attempt to govern and not rule. People are going to start demanding some accountability....The demands are going to get louder and louder and louder until even the most corrupt Congressman will have to take notice..
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 11:23 AM
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8. I agree, and this is well stated.
It gets us off the hook for being blamed for not getting things done, and in a weird way now just may allow us to get things done.

It is easy to be the party of 'no' when you are looking at 60-40. No explanation necessary. Now they have to 'splain themselves to the people.
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Umbral Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 11:38 AM
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10. You and Harry Reid both. nt
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 01:22 PM
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13. it's quite the opposite
nad I happen to know this poster is a real democrat and not some corporate whore like Reid.
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whattheidonot Donating Member (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 01:20 PM
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12. problem.
Health care will not fix much. it is sort of a band-aid fix. The whole system has to be fixed. Globalism, immigrants, wages, free trade, standard of living, imports, exports, inflation, deflation, education you name it. Globalism free trade capitalism gone wild has to be reined in. Capitalism can work , but not like it is now. Schemes to cram low wages people into houses they cannot afford come from this. House have to be built to suit the wage, the expected wage, the stagnant wage. Many businesses the whole idea has been to make low wages and easily replaceable the idea in the work force.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 02:37 AM
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14. It may well be a blessing - that senate bill must be killed.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 02:40 AM
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15. In the long run it's a blessing
Edited on Sun Jan-24-10 02:52 AM by Raine
in disguise I think.

edit: added one word.
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