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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:24 AM
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Right now, today, how much chance do you think Palin has for 2012?
Either for the repubic nom or the whole magilla?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:25 AM
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1. she'll run and win the nomination....
Edited on Sun Feb-07-10 10:26 AM by spanone
the media showed yesterday that they are willing to treat her as an equal to Harvard Law Grad President Barack Obama
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:25 AM
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2. I think her participation in the pug primary would be 2 years of comedy gold...
if, of course, she lasts that long.

Sid
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:06 PM
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52. The sooner she announces, the better, IMHO.
Intellect, political wisdom, and real thought (as the Dem candidates are alikely given to possess) are so dull, you know?
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:25 AM
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3. Everything as is today, 75% she gets the nod, 51% chance she wins
The left has torn itself apart with over done expectations of Obama and is a mess while the Teabaggers are driving the GOP agenda.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:29 AM
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9. You might notice the GOP is a little torn right now, too.
I don't think Sarah Palin has a snowball's chance in hell of getting the party nomination. That said, she is a great distraction from several sleepers who are going to come out of the woodwork and kick our butt if we don't start delivering some change people can see in their lives.

Just keep on focusing on Palin. We are going to be blindsided like so badly we will never know what hit us.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:47 AM
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31. I agree with you.
The "mainstream" repubicans will not allow her to be their nominee. No how, no way.

My money's on Pence right now.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:53 AM
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34. if she runs ahead in the polls, the repubs will be on her like flies on doo-doo
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 11:54 AM
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41. Yeah? Hide and watch
No one who is on the radar screen right now is going to be the nominee.
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polpilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 12:49 PM
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72. Palin 2012, Repubs begging to be her VP, poll #'s out the roof, 'Ray-gun in a Skirt'
How's that 'Hope & Change working for you and your family?' Most Americans aren't 'hoping' anymore...they're down on their knees praying for change...praying to God, who made America great, for change. How many American ex-soldiers do we have in the crowd to-nite, raise your hand so's we can thank you for keeping us free!!!
Ray-Gun 2.0 in an expanding ignorant electorate accelerating to the bottom. 'Say-Rah!! Say-Rah!! Watch Texas Gov's race play out next month. 'Old Repubs (Bush, Cheney, Baker, Hutchison) v. 'New Repubs (Perry, Palin, Porkers)
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:56 AM
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35. That would be one. Couple of others I see on the horizon who could also be quite formidable.
And, yet, we devolve into the Palin Underground (PU) and refuse to look at what our party needs to do to convince people it's on their side.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:57 PM
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48. Agreed, except that I think it's going to be Romney or Scott Brown. nt
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:32 AM
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14. Yep! That's my take as well. Fucking Reid is going to get us all killed.
If you don't get the connection, he enabled Baucus and the rest of the conservadems to delay and stall into August giving the baggers life.

And, he will be re-elected and he will be the Speaker. He's the best candidate the Corporations could possibly find. His muddling does much more for them than the squawk from the Republicans.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:52 AM
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33. Reid was not the one who torpedoed the Public Option in the Senate bill
He wrote a public option into his blended bill. He then added the Medicare expansion. Remind me who showed up at his office and ordered him to make a deal (cave to) Lieberman. Remind me who went to bat with Reid to make sure Lieberman kept his chairmanship. I know Reid was pissed about this and that he very much wanted to preserve a public option in the Senate bill.

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 05:28 PM
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60. 'scuse me...that asshat enabled the whole scenario. No leadership, no strenght, wimp.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 12:51 AM
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62. 'Suse me but he said straight up that Rahm had told him to make the deal with Lieberman and he
was not happy about it. He also had the votes for the reimportation amendment before the White House got on the phone to some of the key votes and torpedoed it.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:26 AM
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4. Who'd have thought George Bush would have a chance in hell at re-election?
Or election to begin with? :shrug:

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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:30 AM
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11. Bush stole 2000. Gore kicked his butt in that one. He, likely, stole 2004, also, with the help of
Blackwell.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:38 AM
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26. Here is a story about that day
My late husband and I went to the Inauguration as protesters in 2001. We stayed at a pretty fancy hotel in DC, and surprise surprise, so did a LOT of the people who were attending the Inaugural Balls.

Including the Gov of Tennessee and his wife and daughters

My husband and I sat in the front of the hotel, drinking martinis, and watched the parade of idiots coming down the steps that night to attend the Balls.

every fucking one of them, the men, were wearing cowboy boots and huge Texan hats. the women were awash in 300 lbs of trowel-applied makeup, with hair so High it spoke to Jesus himself.

One older lady with a HUGE beehive hairdo said, very loudly , as this parade of fools came by:

"HONEY GEORGE BUSH WILL BRING CLASS BACK TO THE WHITE HOUSE'

I choked on my drink, laughing. NONE of them knew we were protesters.

as we were leaving the next morning to go to the protest, one of the hotel staff asked me why we were there.

"we are protesters" we told them.

The staff people just started clapping for us..they told us that the Republicans staying at the hotel were the cheapest, meanest, most horrible people they had ever met. Did NOT tip, treated the staff like shit.


I will never forget that day.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:40 AM
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28. "with hair so High it spoke to Jesus himself." LOL!!!
:rofl:

That's a perfect rant, yours?
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:49 AM
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32. yes. it was a great day .
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:59 AM
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36. Your words are a thing of beauty.
Sorry about the occasion that prompted them, but nonetheless a brilliant narrative.

:toast:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:12 PM
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55. DUzy, DUzy, DUzy! All of it, but esp. "...hair so high..." I won't finish your thought 'cuz I want
people to read the whole thing!

Really, DU; read it all! :rofl::rofl::rofl:
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:26 PM
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58. The lizard people
I was at the protests that day too, and I felt like I was on major league LSD looking at the lizard men with their cylon wives strutting around.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:26 AM
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5. Zero.
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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:28 AM
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6. 50/50. This country is so messed up it is incredible. n/t
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:28 AM
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7. lol - still none
The polls about her don't lie - she's only popular among hardcore wingnuts.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:28 AM
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8. I don't have cable so I read the live blog on DK. Later watched the speech on youtube
The bloggers don't get it. She was effective and reinforced their perception of reality. She has more of a chance that we give her credit for. Remember, Bush was a total moron and won, while Sarah has big breasts and big hair; every middle-aged wingers wet dream.

She delivered! Ignore her at our peril.
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tibbiit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 11:02 AM
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37. I agree with you
Im from ak and I will NEVER underestimate SP.
tib
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:30 AM
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10. in all seriousness..I can visualize a big"get out the vote" trend among churches
which,here in Texas,would make a big impact.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:34 AM
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20. They just need the election close enough to steal; just like 2000. Now consider the SCOTUS ruling
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:31 AM
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12. None. If she wins the nomination, it will be like Obama's landslide win against maniac Keyes.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:31 AM
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13. Watch her link up with Scott Brown
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:05 PM
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44. I don't think Brown is that stupid. No genius but he does seem to be above room temperature IQ nt
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agent46 Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:32 AM
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15. Plumbing
Palin is being pipelined into the nomination. She's a perfect Republican stool...er...tool.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:32 AM
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16. Zero.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:32 AM
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17. She'll only be given a legitimate chance as long
as Democrats are willing to eat their own and depose their own President.

Sad but true.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:33 AM
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18. Depends on the economy.
Right now, today, I don't think she could get elected.

In 2 years, if things aren't better with the economy, I think it could happen.
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Tim01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:33 AM
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19. Most people think she is too wacky to be president. nt
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:35 AM
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21. She has a thin skin. She may run, but will torpedo her own nomination
then blame someone or something for having to drop out.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:35 AM
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22. Possible but not probable
Of course she could be a candidate!
But I think her dropping out as governor made her candidacy vulnerable to the governors who did stick it out for the remainder of their terms.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:37 AM
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23. Think "shiny object"




Failin has a good shot at the GOP nomination just because of name recognition. They elected Saint Ronnie of RayGun for the same reason and he turned
out to be a useless POS. If she does get the nom I hope the American people have enough sense to see through her bullshit in the General Election.






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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:38 AM
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24. Tina Fey is praying Sarah is the Republican nominee.
I wouldn't mind it a bit either.. I think it would become a humiliating experience for the Republicans in general.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:38 AM
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25. Depends how many Supreme Court Justices President Obama can replace before he is gone
If we can get a majority of liberals in there she doesn't have a chance. If we don't get a majority in there anything is possible.

:scared:

Don
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:40 AM
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27. There's not enough $$ involved in being President..
she'll stay snarking on the sidelines,fleecing her supporters and getting paid Beck/Rush style..
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:45 AM
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29. Despite a large section of our general population being dumber than shit and would support her
the odds are dismally low....esp after her speech which confirmed her stupidity and lack of general knowledge.

Speech writers and senseis are not impressed with her...

She read her shit off her hand to questions posed by the audience...indicating ...gasp...cheating.

Her odds for the Oval is :::

ZILCH

NADA

PUKA

NAI

EMPTY

GONE

ZERO

America has more smarts than to elect the Idiota from Wasilla
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:47 AM
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30. I think she has a great chance of getting the Repug nomination.
I also think she won't run if her "media" career takes off. Why do all that hard campaigning when you can just Beck yourself on television?
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 11:07 AM
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38. Zero for the nomination, very small for the whole thing
The powers that be in the Republican party aren't going to permit Palin to be nominated. The only reason that she got the VP nod is because they were blindsided by the McCain campaign. On the very small, infantesimle chance she gets the nod, we'll see a repeat of '08 where the 'Pugs flee the party in horror.

If she runs third party we'll get a chance to see just how small the right wing whacko crowd is. She might get enough to split the Republican party, but she won't win.

The only scenario in which I see her winning is if the Dems continue to piss off enough on the left that we go out and either stay home or go Green, the splitting the Dem vote. Palin might, just might have a chance then.

So my advice for the Dems is to start trending left and keep the party together.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 11:12 AM
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39. None n/t
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 11:52 AM
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40. I don't think so.
The republicans are not dumb enough to pick her as their nominee. They want to try to win back the white house and no matter how the media is playing her up, republicans know she doesn't have a chance.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 11:57 AM
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42. Zero
Frankly if this country is crazy or deluded enough to give her the nomination after a primary fight I'm leaving this country and going as far away as I possibly can. But I am pretty sure she would be torn to shreds in a real primary where she would have to debate, repeatedly, professional politicians.

I'm much more worried about someone like Thune or even Jeb marching in as a "savior" in 2012.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:01 PM
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43. She's a quitter! No chance in hell.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:08 PM
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45. None.
I don't think even Repigs are that stupid.
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:11 PM
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46. I don't think she'd survive the GOP Primary.
Grampy McLame's people "vetted" her as a VP candidate and an awful lot of stuff managed to skate past them. Dems had some mild fun with it this last time, but really didn't ever take the gloves off given Obama and the type of race he ran.

You can pretty much guarantee that a GOP Primary involving Palin will not be as mild mannered.



Laura
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watercolors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:54 PM
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47. NONE!!!
nt
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:59 PM
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49. zero
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:00 PM
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50. To be the GOP nominee, fair to middling
To be president, none whatsoever.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:03 PM
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51. Zero chance to be the nominee
She is a media darling, but look at that Teabagger crowd at their national convention...only 600 or so. If she is aligning herself with them, as she said so last night, she will not be the GOP nominee. Also, this is not a third party movement that will have the votes Perot did in the 90's.

Romney and even Huckabee have a better chance at the nomination in 2012. Maybe even someone we haven't heard of yet.
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scarface2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:09 PM
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53. we re outnumbered by morans!!
she ll win easy...then declare herself beauty queen president for life!!
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reformist2 Donating Member (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:11 PM
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54. She'll go rogue and be the Tea Party candidate.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:28 PM
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59. Welcome to DU. I, too, could only see her as a third party candidate
I cannot see her as the Republican nominee.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:15 PM
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56. Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public. H. L. Mencken
This is often misquoted substituting intelligence for taste. But that's just as accurate.

If this were Europe, I'd say no chance. But here, it could happen.

--imm
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:23 PM
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57. Win the nomination lose the election.
But in doing so the bagnutters are going to move the ideological goal posts even further right. Our leadership will respond to the now hard right theocratic Tea-Republic Party by moving even further right itself. And so it goes...

2010 and congress are a much bigger threat than the presidential election in 2012.
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SeekerBlue Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 05:42 PM
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61. Remember this:
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 12:57 AM
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63. for nomination, pretty good..... for the whole magilla, almost none
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 02:08 AM
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64. Never underestimate the morons.
We had 8 years of King Moron. Anything is possible. :puke:
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 03:21 AM
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66. I think you mean morans.
:-)
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 12:34 PM
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71. Ooops!
:)
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 03:21 AM
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65. 0.0%
Edited on Mon Feb-08-10 03:21 AM by BlueIris
For serious. I predict, among other things, criminal charges, massive scandal, divorce, bankruptcy, and possible custody issues for her before 2012.
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gleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 03:45 AM
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67. Now as always ....
Less than zero.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 04:23 AM
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68. It is my deepest wish that the Republicans nominate her....

Obama will cruise to a second term.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 07:54 AM
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69. She can have the nomination if she wants it.
Edited on Mon Feb-08-10 07:59 AM by MilesColtrane
But, she has to do some actual work over the next two years, and accept the party's choice for the next Dick Cheney.

Bush was equally lazy, but his daddy issues pushed him enough to try to polish his performance as a campaigner so he could gain the power he craved.
I've seen nothing to indicate that she wants to put in the effort.

If she's nominated, and if she's paired with the right old, white, gravitas-bringer, and IF the economy continues to suck and/or there is another terrorist attack before the election, she could win.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 07:58 AM
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70. every democrat should be praying (if you do)
for her nomination. i don't believe for a second that she could win the whole 'magilla' in 2012. she is too frighteningly stupid...even half the 'right' hates her...

sP
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