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chasmj Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 09:56 AM
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How Christian Were the Founders? (NYT)
Edited on Fri Feb-12-10 10:06 AM by chasmj
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/14/magazine/14texbooks-t.html?pagewanted=print

How Christian Were the Founders?
By RUSSELL SHORTO
February 11, 2010

LAST MONTH, A WEEK before the Senate seat of the liberal icon Edward M. Kennedy fell into Republican hands, his legacy suffered another blow that was perhaps just as damaging, if less noticed. It happened during what has become an annual spectacle in the culture wars. Over two days, more than a hundred people — Christians, Jews, housewives, naval officers, professors; people outfitted in everything from business suits to military fatigues to turbans to baseball caps — streamed through the halls of the William B. Travis Building in Austin, Tex., waiting for a chance to stand before the semicircle of 15 high-backed chairs whose occupants made up the Texas State Board of Education. Each petitioner had three minutes to say his or her piece. “Please keep César Chávez” was the message of an elderly Hispanic man with a floppy gray mustache. “Sikhism is the fifth-largest religion in the world and should be included in the curriculum,” a woman declared.

Following the appeals from the public, the members of what is the most influential state board of education in the country, and one of the most politically conservative, submitted their own proposed changes to the new social-studies curriculum guidelines, whose adoption was the subject of all the attention — guidelines that will affect students around the country, from kindergarten to 12th grade, for the next 10 years. Gail Lowe — who publishes a twice-a-week newspaper when she is not grappling with divisive education issues — is the official chairwoman, but the meeting was dominated by another member. Don McLeroy, a small, vigorous man with a shiny pate and bristling mustache, proposed amendment after amendment on social issues to the document that teams of professional educators had drawn up over 12 months, in what would have to be described as a single-handed display of archconservative political strong-arming.

McLeroy moved that Margaret Sanger, the birth-control pioneer, be included because she “and her followers promoted eugenics,” that language be inserted about Ronald Reagan’s “leadership in restoring national confidence” following Jimmy Carter’s presidency and that students be instructed to “describe the causes and key organizations and individuals of the conservative resurgence of the 1980s and 1990s, including Phyllis Schlafly, the Contract With America, the Heritage Foundation, the Moral Majority and the National Rifle Association.” The injection of partisan politics into education went so far that at one point another Republican board member burst out in seemingly embarrassed exasperation, “Guys, you’re rewriting history now!” Nevertheless, most of McLeroy’s proposed amendments passed by a show of hands. Finally, the board considered an amendment to require students to evaluate the contributions of significant Americans. The names proposed included Thurgood Marshall, Billy Graham, Newt Gingrich, William F. Buckley Jr., Hillary Rodham Clinton and Edward Kennedy. All passed muster except Kennedy, who was voted down.

This is how history is made — or rather, how the hue and cry of the present and near past gets lodged into the long-term cultural memory or else is allowed to quietly fade into an inaudible whisper. Public education has always been a battleground between cultural forces; one reason that Texas’ school-board members find themselves at the very center of the battlefield is, not surprisingly, money. The state’s $22 billion education fund is among the largest educational endowments in the country. Texas uses some of that money to buy or distribute a staggering 48 million textbooks annually — which rather strongly inclines educational publishers to tailor their products to fit the standards dictated by the Lone Star State. California is the largest textbook market, but besides being bankrupt, it tends to be so specific about what kinds of information its students should learn that few other states follow its lead. Texas, on the other hand, was one of the first states to adopt statewide curriculum guidelines, back in 1998, and the guidelines it came up with (which are referred to as TEKS — pronounced “teaks” — for Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills) were clear, broad and inclusive enough that many other states used them as a model in devising their own. And while technology is changing things, textbooks — printed or online — are still the backbone of education...

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...James Kracht, a professor at Texas A&M’s college of education and a longtime player in the state’s textbook process, told me flatly, “Texas governs 46 or 47 states.”... Kathy Miller, the watchdog, who has been monitoring the board for 15 years, says, referring to Don McLeroy and another board member: “It is the most crazy-making thing to sit there and watch a dentist and an insurance salesman rewrite curriculum standards in science and history."
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SCantiGOP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 09:59 AM
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1. Here's your answer
"I had hoped that liberal and enlightened thought would have reconciled the Christians so that their religious fights would not endanger the peace of society." "We have abundant reason to rejoice that in this land, the light of truth and reason has triumphed over the power of bigotry and superstition, and that every person may worship god according to the dictates of his own heart." George Washington
This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it. Consider the calamities that engine of grief has produced! John Adams
"Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we called it the word of a demon, than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness, that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind." - Thomas Paine (The Age of Reason, 1794-1795.)
"Question with boldness even the existence of a god." - Thomas Jefferson (letter to Peter Carr, 10 August 1787)
"When a Religion is good, I conceive it will support itself; and when it does not support itself, and God does not take care to support it so that its Professors are obliged to call for help of the Civil Power, it is a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one." - Benjamin Franklin (from a letter to Richard Price, October 9, 1780;)
I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of... Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and for my own part, I disbelieve them all."- Thomas Paine (The Age of Reason, 1794-1795.)
"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution." - James Madison (Memorial and Remonstrance against Religious Assessments, 1785.)
"Is uniformity attainable? Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth." - Thomas Jefferson (Notes on Virginia, 1782; from George Seldes, ed., The Great Quotations, Secaucus, New Jersey: Citadel Press, 1983, p. 363.)
"Where do we find a precept in the Bible for Creeds, Confessions, Doctrines and Oaths, and whole carloads of other trumpery that we find religion encumbered with in these days?" - John Adams
"The civil rights of none shall be abridged on account of religious belief or worship, nor shall any national religion be established, nor shall the full and equal rights of conscience be in any manner, or on any pretence, infringed.'' - James Madison (Original wording of the First Amendment; Annals of Congress 434 (June 8, 1789).)
"As the Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries." - (Treaty of Tripoli, 1797 - signed by President John Adams.)
"As to religion, I hold it to be the indispensable duty of government to protect all conscientious protesters thereof, and I know of no other business government has to do therewith." - Thomas Paine (Common Sense, 1776.)

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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 10:56 AM
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9. Thank You For My New Sig
I had heard most of those quotes before, but not this one. This one is closest to the "truth" religion brings the world.

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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 11:33 AM
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13. "The civil rights of none shall be abridged on account of religious belief or worship,
John Adams.....Gay Marriage is a great example of how this just is not the case in America.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 10:00 AM
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2. Interesting, this has come out before, and we wonder why
some people believe Fox News...kids aren't getting an education, but an indoctrination of largely falsehoods.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 10:03 AM
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3. Funny how the right wing never mentions that Prescott Bush was one of Margaret Sanger's "followers"
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 10:04 AM
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4. Bookmarking for reading later...nt
Sid
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 10:07 AM
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5. These school book psychos are like something out of 1952.
They're nuts, and there doesn't seem to be any way to stop them.
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 10:13 AM
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6. So in other words, we're the same as the Soviet Russia repukes disdain.
Propaganda is not history. And it's what dictatorships do.
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texanshatingbush Donating Member (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 10:36 AM
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7. ....and history is written by the victors, rather than the clear-eyed......(sigh) n/t
Edited on Fri Feb-12-10 10:38 AM by texanshatingbush
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 10:47 AM
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8. Texas nutjobs
Edited on Fri Feb-12-10 10:49 AM by texastoast
These are dangerous people. I'm glad to see how much more attention these absolute fringe crazies are receiving. This is what happens when Democrats stay home.

On edit:

And to Kathy Miller and the Texas Freedom Network, hang in there. This is the good fight.


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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 11:00 AM
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10. Meanwhile, we history teachers in other states
Look at these books provided for us, shake our heads in disbelief and disgust, and then go ahead and teach the truth to our classes sans books. Fuck the Texas State Board of Education, they aren't going to control what I teach in my classroom.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 11:05 AM
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11. It doesn't matter if CHristians were founders of anything.
The reality is that the nation today has people of many other belief systems living in it and governance needs to reflect the concerns of modern society rather than that of the 17th century.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 11:25 AM
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12. Too.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 11:40 AM
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14. K&R n/t
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