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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 10:14 AM
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Why The Apology Canada?
Edited on Fri Feb-26-10 10:45 AM by kpete
ROCK ON!!!!!!

I LOVED THIS PICTURE (only wish it had been US)


http://www.ctvolympics.ca/hockey/news/newsid=52689.html?cid=rss

VANCOUVER - Hockey Canada apologized Thursday for an impromptu party the Olympic women's hockey team threw for itself on the Canada Hockey Place ice after winning the gold medal.

Canadian players, still wearing their uniforms and with gold medals draped around their necks, celebrated their victory by drinking champagne and beer at centre ice following a 2-0 win over the United States.

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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 10:16 AM
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1. Good for them. I wish the US women had joined them. nt
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 10:16 AM
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2. With no pro league, this is their Super Bowl/Stanley Cup. nt
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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 10:29 AM
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3. Excellent point
It did not have the same effect as Brandy Chastain tearing off her jersey :evilgrin: - but it was still pretty cool.


Of course, I strongly support Champagne and cigars....
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 10:40 AM
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5. THIS is what champagne and cigars are for!
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 01:15 PM
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41. Yup. And they waited until all the spectators left before
returning to the scene of their victory. Good for them! They deserved a celebration just amongst themselves. They're the ones who did it. Bravi!
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 10:31 AM
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4. Party on, Canada!
No need for the apology.
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 10:45 AM
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6. One of the team members was under the legal drinking age
Best comment I saw in reply to that:

Underage drinking is permitted in some religious ceremonies. Canada won a gold medal in hockey. 'Nuff said.

:toast:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 01:27 PM
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50. Priceless!
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 10:46 AM
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7. Just wish they would have lit up a fattie instead.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 10:48 AM
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8. Men would never do such a thing.
:evilgrin:

Is she holding a cigar?
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 11:03 AM
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9. Naw
thats not just a cigar, It is a phallic symbol to substitute/ease her oral fixation... :sarcasm:

Party on Canadian Ladies! Congrats!...and you do have single payer Health care... even more reason to party.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 11:08 AM
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10. Olympic Womens Ice Hockey is already in real jeopardy
There are only two competitive nations...it may not be part of the Winter Games much longer.
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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 10:35 PM
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66. Actually there are many competitive nations. We just don't hear
much about them over here.
http://www.whockey.com/country/

Sweden, Switzerland, Czech Republic, Norway ..... they all have some pretty impressive female hockey teams.
http://www.whockey.com/int/

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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 12:14 AM
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67. Tell that to the IOC President
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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 12:23 AM
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68. I'm sure he knows it already. n/t.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 11:09 AM
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11. They deserved to party. I don't understand the criticism.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 11:29 AM
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12. for starters apparently some drinking were underage...
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 11:30 AM
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13. One member of the team was underage. I don't know if that person
was drinking. Do you?
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 01:16 PM
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42. I think she was 18. Which is not a huge scandal. In other parts of the world
Edited on Fri Feb-26-10 01:17 PM by Jennicut
that is legal. Our drinking age is ridiculous here....21. In Canada it is 19.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 01:22 PM
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46. Actually, in the Province of Alberta it's 18....
Provinces can set their own age limit as opposed to one federally mandated age. Many southeastern B.C. youth celebrate their 18th birthday by driving 'next door' to Alberta as soon as they can, stay overnight for safety reasons before returning home to B.C.
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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 01:26 PM
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49. Yep, I believe it's 18 in Alberta, Manitoba and Quebec. n/t,
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 02:53 PM
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61. More of a reason why it was not that big of a deal.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 11:33 AM
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14. Sorry, but I find this rather tacky.
This is the Olympics, where a bit of decorum is expected. Not to mention that some of the team were underage. Nothing classy about drunken louts with cigars at center ice.

If this had been the US doing this, we would have been blasted, but since it is Canada it seems to be a minor controversy at most.

If they want to party, fine, take it back to the village.

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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 11:58 AM
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18. Sadly, I agree.
Normally I'm not a prude, but I also don't like the message it sends to kids that drinking and smoking are how you truly celebrate.

Did they also do this while people were still filing out of the stadium?
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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 12:08 PM
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21. No, according to an article I read they'd already been to their
Edited on Fri Feb-26-10 12:13 PM by polly7
dressing room and decided to take the party back to the ice, after all the fans had left the building.

http://www.ctvolympics.ca/hockey/news/newsid=52689.html#team+canada+apologizes+post+game+behaviour
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 12:12 PM
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23. That does make it better.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 12:34 PM
Response to Reply #14
27. Oh please..give me a break. I find uptightness tacky.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 01:06 PM
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36. I agree though I don't begrudge the athletes.
I'm always mindful of how the other side would feel after the loss. Just shake hands at center ice and accept your accolades.
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reflection Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 04:13 PM
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64. Meh, I don't have a problem with celebrating.
I do agree that it would have been front page news on Der Spiegel, Le Monde and such if the USA had done it, however.
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janet118 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 11:34 AM
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15. Lighten up, America n/t
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MellowDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 11:53 AM
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16. It was the IOC, not the US...
that has criticized the celebration. If anyone needs to lighten up, it's the IOC. And if anyone needs to grow a pair, it's Canadians. ;-)
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janet118 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 12:44 PM
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31. I guess I'm referring to . . .
the uptight scolds who are posting on this site.
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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 11:56 AM
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17. Congrats, Canada - what a hell of a game that was.
The US Women's Hockey Team is an excellent one. Canada just had us outclassed. On one very upbeat note, Kerry Weiland of PALMER, ALASKA, played for the US and brought home the FIRST ALASKAN US OLYMPIC MEDAL EVER!!!

Way to rock, Kerry!

Way to roll, Canada!
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 12:02 PM
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19. And yet if it had been the US team who won & acted like that
folks on DU would be demanding their heads on platters in general & bashing the US in particular. :eyes:

Personally, I think those women deserved to celebrate as they did. They played hard & won the gold on home ice.

dg
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 12:08 PM
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20. I think you are being unfair to DUers, the reaction to Lago being....
sent home didn't result in bashing Lago or the U.S., with a few exceptions most felt the decision to send him how was over the top:

DU thread on Lago being sent home:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7760008

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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 12:13 PM
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24. No, I'm not being unfair
not all DUers feel that way, but there have been several US-bashing Olympics threads, enough to know that had the US team won & acted that way, there would be such posts about their celebration.

dg
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 01:06 PM
Response to Reply #24
37. You are spot on.
Spot. Fucking. On.
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CBR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 01:23 PM
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47. You are right Wolverine... nt
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 01:17 PM
Response to Reply #19
44. wow, speak for yourself. If the American's had won and then partied on the
ice after the place had been cleared out, I would be right there with them. I don't give a damn what team it was, there is no crime in celebrating.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 01:49 PM
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54. I'm not speaking for myself
I've seen enough anti-US bashing threads regarding the Olympics to know that that would be the response here.

And if you think I'm making this up, check this out for some over-the-top poutrage, anti-US bashing, all because ONE talking head mispronounced ONE name, then come back & tell me I'm wrong:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7785732

dg
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 12:12 PM
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22. At the original Olympics contestants were naked.
Now all the fucking prudes throw a tizzy every time there are photographs of the victors celebrating.

How far we've fallen.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 01:17 PM
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43. Naked women's hockey...hmm...
Might be a way to increase the fan base for women's hockey.
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Spoonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 05:12 PM
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65. I would watch EVERY game! n/t
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southernyankeebelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 12:21 PM
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25. Good for them. Party on girls. They won fair and square and if it were our team I know they would
be rubbing it in. Our american women showed their sour faces yesterday and I felt bad for them but it showed bad sportsmenship. They should be happy to win any medal. They did their best and that is all we could ask of them. The canadian women played well on that day and they deserved to win.
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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 12:32 PM
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26. If you think emotions were high over this game ....... hang on to your hat for the one coming up
Edited on Fri Feb-26-10 12:33 PM by polly7
http://www.cbc.ca/olympics/blogs/scottmorrison/2010/02/the-hate-is-on.html


oops, I may have replied to the wrong post, but ............ still. It's going to be rough.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 12:39 PM
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28. AFAIC, there was no need to apologize
Congratulations to the Canadian women!
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 02:01 PM
Response to Reply #28
57. Yes, there was.
They were in the town where Granville Island , Fat Cat and other breweries are located, yet they chose to drink swill. ;-)
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 12:42 PM
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29. Did they also apologize for the Georgian luger's death on the unsafe track?
Edited on Fri Feb-26-10 12:46 PM by joeybee12
Let's get our priorities straight here....honestly.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 12:45 PM
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32. Canadians killed the Georgian luger?
Or was it a tragic accident on a track approved by the IOC. It was the latter I think.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 12:46 PM
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33. Well, it wasn't Hockey Canada...but I think whoever designed it, regardless of who
Edited on Fri Feb-26-10 12:47 PM by joeybee12
approved it, is also to blame. My point being, it's screwed what is considered a "controversy." Let them smoke and drink...spend your energy getting worked up figuring out what happened to that poor kid.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 01:09 PM
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39. The German who designed it has designed these tracks for 4 decades...
his company is one of only two in the world capable of designing tracks for the Olympics. When you brought forward the point about the designer, it peaked my curiosity as to who, indeed, had designed this track so I did a search and found this article which I found very informational as to the how, why, etc.:

Marketing trumped safety in Olympic luge track design: engineer

In the four decades since he designed his first luge track in Soviet-era East Germany, Udo Gurgel has made it his life's mission to perfect the tubes and tracks that catapult lugers and bobsledders to highway speeds.

From his laboratory in Leipzig, Germany, this 71-year-old engineer found how to make cement tracks slick. He figured a way for concrete as wide as a man's hand to hold not just a four-man bobsled but a sophisticated network of steel tubes piping coolant down the icy tracks. Gurgel's inventions have made his engineering firm one of only two places in the world capable of designing tracks for winter Olympics.

But his most recent design, the Whistler luge track at the Vancouver Winter Olympics, proved to be the fastest ever, faster than he had thought it would be, with top speeds exceeding 130 kilometres an hour. After the death last Friday, at extraordinary speed, of the young Georgian luger Nodar Kumaritashvili in a practice run, the track's design, and the decisions behind it, have come under scrutiny.

In an interview from his Leipzig lab, Gurgel said that the extremely high speed of the Whistler track was not a function of his design intentions or engineering decisions, but of marketing and investment decisions on behalf of the Vancouver Olympic Committee, VANOC. "It wasn't desired or demanded that the track be as fast as it is," he says of the design contract he won in 2004. He defends the design, but says its speed and its jarring turns were considered acceptable tradeoffs for a more appealing location.

more

http://www.ctvolympics.ca/news-centre/newsid=45121.html?cid=rss

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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 01:11 PM
Response to Reply #33
40. Investigation showed it was human error.
It also showed the death was an accident, but if you're really set on crucifying somebody, blame the kid.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 01:42 PM
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53. Their "thorough" invetsigation that lasted less than a day......
Screw you...with your attitude, buddy...yeah, i'm intent on crucifying someone...if you're so intent on reading intent into someone else's words, go for it.
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wolfgangmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 02:09 PM
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60. Wait a minute.
If a Canadian killed any Luger it was out of season which means it was the work of a rogue hunter.

Myself, I buy my license and tag and hunt legally. And every Canadian knows that Luge season doesn't begin until mid march.

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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 12:47 PM
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34. Yes, they did apologize.
Edited on Fri Feb-26-10 12:53 PM by polly7
That luge (which exceeded IOC standards because of the higher walls) had had more than 5000 runs on it during the last two years. It was a tragic, horrible accident that imo could have been prevented with MUCH better planning of it, in particular not placing posts at such a fast turn (CRAZY) but yes, the officials certainly did apologize.
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Tailormyst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 12:44 PM
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30. our team should have joined them. Silver is no small thing.
I am very happy and proud of both teams.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 01:02 PM
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35. I think these two teams take their rivalry personally, unfortunately.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 01:06 PM
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38. The pompous asses who run the Winter Olympics need to chill out.
Edited on Fri Feb-26-10 01:10 PM by TexasObserver
What a bunch of world class assholes!

The Canadian women's team won and they partied on the ice. Big fucking deal.

Apologize? Maybe for not inviting US to the ice rink party!!

I'd be troubled if one of them DIDN'T try to drive the Zamboni.


Thank you, Canadian Women's Gold Medal Olympic Champion Hockey Team! Thank you for not having a tight ass like your detractors. You're good roles models for kids. Work hard. Play hard. In that order.
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #38
45. ITA!! :-) n/t
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 01:24 PM
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48. But they should apologize for...
Nickelback. :puke:

But we'll let that slide since the also gave us Paul Shaffer.
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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 01:32 PM
Response to Reply #48
52. LOL. That's funny. I love Nickelback! No apologies here.
"If Everyone Cared" ....... c'mon, what can be bad about that?
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 01:59 PM
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56. Ha! I knew that would prompt a reply by a fan!
It's been a long week and I needed to vent a little!

My alternative choice was Celine Dion. :evilgrin:
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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 02:02 PM
Response to Reply #56
58. He he ........... I do apologize for Celine Dion. (Sorry Dion fans), nt.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 01:29 PM
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51. Also, I have seen several male athletes interviewed after events, and they've
not been wearing coats and ties. Improper attire is a travesty and an insult - all athletes should be sent to protocol school immediately...

;)
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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 03:34 PM
Response to Reply #51
62. And what about the NHL, when they're pouring all that champagne
and beer on one another. Always caught on camera. Tsk, tsk. Those men should not be advocating drinking and drunkenness, especially half naked ..... and when young, impressionable children are watching by the millions.
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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 01:54 PM
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55. Had to apologize. The IOC runs the show,
and they are already talking about eliminating women's hockey, so this doesn't help.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 02:06 PM
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59. "Fucking prude" here. Even I think the ICC is being stupid. nt
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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 04:09 PM
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63. Sanity
Scott Gardner/The Associated Press
IOC won't investigate women's hockey celebration
The Canadian PressPosted Friday, February 26, 2010 3:16 PM ET



http://www.ctvolympics.ca/hockey/news/newsid=52960.html#ioc+wont+investigate+celebration
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 12:26 AM
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69. Poor Sportsmanship
Apparently they didn't shake hands with the US women until several minutes later due to the party. But hey, let 'em celebrate. The women don't have the Stanley Cup like the guys do.
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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 12:32 AM
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70. The party wasn't held until the building was empty.
"A party that started in the dressing room spilled out onto the ice, long after the fans had left the building, when several team members posed for photos with beer cans in hand and big cigars in their mouths."
http://www.ctvolympics.ca/hockey/news/newsid=53159.html#get+real+says+wickenheiser+critics+slam+party

Did I miss some satire again?

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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 12:35 AM
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71. Oh, okay
Let 'em party.
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 12:41 AM
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72. Andrea Mitchell said she thought they were drinking Coors Light
Glad to see she had a Molson (Canadian) next to her. Andrea said it was a blue can so I bet it was Labatts Blue.

If only there was an Olympic event called Name That Beer Can!
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