Rasmussen Poll: Obama Pulls Ahead of Hillary 32% to 30%!! Edwards Steady at 17%, THIS IS BIG NEWS!

[Dems Will Win]

This is the first national poll to put Obama ahead of Hillary. In March she was 12 points ahead. That's a switch of 14 percent!

Obama is surging...

April 30, 2007

For the first time in the Election 2008 season, somebody other than New York Senator Hillary Clinton is on top in the race for the Democratic Presidential nomination.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows Illinois Senator Barack Obama with a statistically insignificant two point advantage over the former First Lady. It’s Obama 32% Clinton 30%. Former North Carolina Senator John Edwards remains in third with support holding steady at 17%. No other candidate tops 3%. The survey was conducted April 23-26, 2007 meaning that the overwhelming majority of the interviews were completed before last Thursday’s debate in South Carolina. The impact of the debate will be measured in polling conducted this week.

Following a surprisingly strong fundraising report released at the end of March, Obama steadily gained ground during April. The last Rasmussen Reports poll released in March found Clinton enjoying a dozen-point lead. Since then, Clinton’s support has fallen seven percentage points while Obama’s total has increased the same amount. Obama now leads among voters under 40. Clinton is strongest among those 65 and older. Clinton has a two-point edge among Democrats. Obama has a nineteen-point lead among independents likely to vote in a Democratic primary.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Political%20Tracking/Democratic%20Primaries/DemocraticPresidentialPrimary.htm

Please recommend if you are an Obama fan!

[Bolo Boffin]

1. Come on, Hillary!

You'll enjoy being Majority Leader of the Senate after Harry Reid steps down.

Obama rocks!

[ORDagnabbit]

2. yay for corporate demopublicans!!!!!! n/t

my gods.... theres a fricken year and a half of this crap to go.

[iconoclastic cat]

5. How exactly is Obama a corporate demopublican? nt

[ORDagnabbit]

12. many ways...heres one.

http://www.rawstory.com/showoutarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nysun.com%2Farticle%2F53420

[mahina]

16. Because we can certainly win without fundraising,

without winning over disillusioned true conservatives. Right? By being pure? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Ptttttht.

Organizing meeting for Hawaii May 12, 10 am Kawananakoa school, aloha.

[MadBadger]

19. And I should be listening to what The Sun says? Yea Right.

[mahina]

29. So out of curiosity I clicked on the anti Obama ad on that rawstory page,

and note that their ammo, extensively researched with many authors, starts off with the following:

Obama is for abortion (we all know the difference between being for choice, keeping abortion safe, legal and rare.)

What's really cool is that you get a FRREE copy of Ann Coulter's book, Treason!
They say that here, you can find all the dirt you need to end Obama's campaign. I found out, for instance, that he voted to allow college graduate assistants who teach college courses, to join a UNION! (sb1070)

One of the reasons it's great to work for Senator Obama's election in his first term in the US Senate is that the process we currently use to pass laws, stuffing the bills with tons of language pertaining to other things that you have to vote for to pass what you need, gives ammo to your opponents research team. Sooner the better, we need this man in the White House asap.

Since you are a purist, you will surely stop reading Rawstory since they took this ad. Right?

Obama 08 baby!

[MisterHowdy]

52. Neither Clinton or Obama support impeaching Dick Cheney

Nor any one of the other candidates (besides Kucinich of course)
Makes me angry,

What is their rationale for not wanting to impeach Cheney?
Seriously, how is allowing Cheney to go untouched benefiting the American people.
They do, after all, work for and represent the people??????? Don't they?????????!!?!?!??

[iconoclastic cat]

53. It's really not up to them. Impeachment will be the result of oversight. nt

[Bucky]

58. *sigh* If only there was a sufficiently virgin candidate running.

[David Dunham]

3. The poll data was taken before Obama's weak debate performance

[iconoclastic cat]

6. I know 1 person who knows anything about that debate.

And she liked Obama. Nobody else knew it even happened.

[David Dunham]

TV Data said 2 million people watched it across the country

Everyone saw Obama blow the national security question.

[MadBadger]

10. Data also showed that South Carolina voters thought Obama won the debate

[ChairmanAgnostic]

24. what national security question?

no joke.

I popped in and out, missed and and really don't know.

[IronLionZion]

26. yeah, so how many were included in that random poll?

9 out of 10 statistics are made up on the spot :evilgrin:

[Strelnikov_]

65. Yea, that retaliate first policy has worked so well

Not secure the situation, ensure adequate emergency relief measures are being taken, ensure that a strong defensive posture has been assumed, not open dialog with allies as to how best to work together to address any future threats.

Nope. To show you would be a tough CIC, the talking heads say the correct answer is retaliate.

Flush the bombers, load um up with JDAMS of Freedom^TM and dammit just bomb somebody already. No good targets to bomb where Osama is hiding, well fuck it, bomb some other country nobody likes (preferably one with oil).

I mean, shit, this approach of bomb first, ask questions later has worked so well over the last six years . . .

[David Dunham]

9. Data showed 2 million people watched the debate

[Kolesar]

13. 2 million? That is rather impressive in itself

That's about triple of Keith Olbermann on Countdown and double of anything on the RW-zombie-network. Shows that people beyond the "politically compulsive" are interested in the race.

[MadBadger]

15. This is still the politically compulsive. It didnt do double the RW Zombie Network.

The most watched show that night still was Billo's show. HOwever, people watched the debate on C-span, NBC local in SC, and on the radio, so more than 2.2 million people heard or saw the debate.

[Tarheel_Dem]

23. any real data to back up your assertion?

or is this just another plug for O'Reilly?

[MadBadger]

25. You know, I follow the ratings, and I like to tell the truth

You want me to provide facts, here, read it. In the demo, yes, the debate surpassed O'Reilly, but in viewers, the debate was 160,000 behind.

7PM - P2+ (25-54)
FOX Report with Shepard Smith – 1,570,000 viewers (435,000)
Situation Room – 483,000 viewers (115,000)
Debate – 2,164,000 viewers (736,000) **Ran from 7-8:30PM
On the Money – a scratch with 115,000 viewers (a scratch with 24,000)
Glenn Beck – 273,000 viewers (96,000)

8PM - P2+ (25-54)
O’Reilly Factor– 2,320,000 viewers (464,000)
Paula Zahn- 513,000 viewers (135,000)
MSNBC Special Coverage – 1,756,000 viewers (591,000) **Ran from 8:30-9PM
Fast Money- 142,000 viewers (a scratch with 33,000)
Nancy Grace – 660,000 viewers (144,000)


http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/04/27/thursdays-numbers-38/

[Tarheel_Dem]

28. thank you so much......

good to see the debate beat your friend Bill'o in the money demographic. Thanks again....

[MadBadger]

30. What the hell is your problem?

[Tarheel_Dem]

34. no prob......

have a nice day :)

[MadBadger]

35. You have a problem with honesty obviously

I watch MSNBC, but because I admit that Fox does very well, I get called RWinger. Because I wont accept a comparison of Ann Coulter to Hitler, I get Called a RWinger. I just dont get you.

[Tarheel_Dem]

44. I never called you a rightwinger, but you certainly seem to be a

sympathizer, sort of a joe lieberman type.

[MadBadger]

46. I believe in being fair about the truth

Truth is that for some reason, FOx does very well, and much better than my fav network (MSNBC) for some reason. I'm completely up front about that. I dont like their message though. I think it is anti-democratic propaganda that does nothing but make the nation dumber.

[Tarheel_Dem]

48. finally we agree on something....n/t

[Kolesar]

41. Data!

Good stuff. I could never google that up. Quit trying.

I have an opinion that the Fox-types are this weak, sheep-like personality that compulsively sit by the oracle of Ailes, the altar of O'Reilly, waiting for their messages letting them know it's ok to be a jerk.

[bouwob1]

20. but doesnt even come close to the

35 or so million viewers who watch American idol. Americans embarrass me :(

[mikelgb]

47. I watched it and thought Obama did poorly

Clinton sadly did better

Obama was not the worst however, that title goes to Richardson

[Dems Will Win]

Actually, African-American voters are turning from Hillary to Obama

And polls after the debate showed that turned into a wave, as African Americans just wanted to make sure Obama didn't fall on his face.

Since he didn't I would expect the next Rasmussen poll on Monday to show that Obama has increased his lead, as those voters convert to Obama.

[Dems Will Win]

18. Watch the next poll and he will go up even more.

African-American voters loved him and are converting to him from Hillary

[zulchzulu]

66. I guess that's why Obama did so well in polls for those that watched...

If that was a "weak performance", getting 67% approval next time would be better...huh...

[DeepModem Mom]

4. Obama is one incredibly gifted guy! K&R!

[David Dunham]

7. But his debate answers were not up to par.

[DeepModem Mom]

21. I'm an Obama supporter, and I agree. I admit that his inexperience shows...

especially in comparison to Hillary's vast experience over the years. My feelings about Obama are similar to those expressed recently by Bill Moyers. I don't have the quotes at hand, but he said that when he sees Obama, he sees JFK. He said that when JFK came along, Hubert Humphrey was the logical candidate, but that it was time for a new generation, for a fresh face and a different political persona, and the gifted Kennedy was nominated and elected.

I'm not a fierce partisan among our candidates, however. I would be pleased to vote for any of them.

[mahina]

31. Thanks DMM! I didn't know Moyers said that.

Warms my heart, sincerely. I think the world of Bill Moyers. Thank you for sharing that.

[Colobo]

39. He survived the debate, and that was more than enough

He did enough to prove he could hang in there, that he is not a lightweight. Edwards and Richardson had weak performances too, and Hillary was solid but not impressive at all... so Obama did just fine.

[jayfish]

8. Rasmussen?

You've got to be kidding me. The only thing Ras is good for is pointing out to RWers that even he has Bush below (enter extremely low poll numbers here). And for the record I don't have a dog in this fight as of yet.

Jay

[Colobo]

40. Rasmussen has been the most accurate pollster

In the last 2 elections. Dude is Republican but knows what's he's doing.

[jayfish]

50. He Was A Consistent Outlier In The Run-up To 04'...

and was close in 06' because people were on to him.

Jay

[paulk]

51. That's only if you accept the last two presidential

election results as legitimate -

I wouldn't hang my hat on Rasmussen's accuracy... and my feelings on this have nothing to do with these latest poll results.

For instance - Rasmussen has consistantly been an outlier when it comes to Bush's approval ratings - today they've got him at 43% approval. The last NYT poll had Bush at 28%...

Which number do you think is more accurate?

[Arugula Latte]

11. *Psssssffffftttt*

The sound of air going out of the Hillary-as-Inevitable balloon ...

:woohoo:

[elocs]

14. How is this big news seeing as how it is more than 8 months before any primary or caucus?

Currently I am not yet supporting anybody. A lot can happen between now and next year. I think if I was Obama that I would like to be a close second to Senator Clinton rather than being the front runner (statistically tied).

[Kolesar]

17. Because he said so

:evilgrin:

[elocs]

22. Who he? Oh! Him.

[Kolesar]

36. No candidate has inspired me either. Four years ago, I liked the way Dean was railing against bush*

This time, we don't *have* to get rid of bush*. So it is as exciting as Bill Clinton vs. Jerry Brown vs. Paul Tsongas in 1992, which is to say...not very exciting.

[Dems Will Win]

59. Uh - it's BIG NEWS because Hillary was supposed to cruise

in money and poll numbers.

Now she's second in primary dollars raised last quarter and second for the first time in anational poll.

Markos of KOS predicted Obama would catch Hillary in the polls in mid-summer. He passed her instead (altho by a statistically insignificant 2%) at the end of APRIL.

This is significant, especially since the debate made African American voters switch to Obama.

He will continue to rise a smidge in the Monday Rasmussen I predict.

Obama is also leading Hillary in independents who will vote in Dem primaries by 19%. That's huge and could eventually put those Independent-voting states away for Obama.

Yes it's early but this race started earlier and got serious long ago because the country is going down the tubes and people are scared and paying attention now. The undecideds are already shrinking rapidly.

[elocs]

62. Wow! It's all over already? I haven't even decided yet who I prefer. Oh well. n/t

[Dems Will Win]

63. Dems have a habit of overturning the front-runner

Seems this has already happened to Hillary. She is going to have a tougher race than she ever thought. And I doubt she can win.

Obama is a phenom and will likely win everything as indies, young people and old people and non-political types come out of the woodwork to work and vote for him.

If Hillary becomes Senate Majority Leader then and Pelosi is Speaker and Obama is Prez, then we will have two women and an African-American running the United States...

[elocs]

64. Interesting. We may love it but,

"If Hillary becomes Senate Majority Leader then and Pelosi is Speaker and Obama is Prez, then we will have two women and an African-American running the United States..." would probably become a Republican campaign slogan. It's exactly the type of thing they would use.

[Gregorian]

27. And it's Edwards on the outside, behind by a haircut...

Obama pulls ahead by the length of a Department of Homeland Security document! Sandbags have been thrown onto the track in front of Kucinich and Gravel!

Only one more year before any of this becomes even slightly meaningful..

[mahina]

37. Beg to differ,

factoring in the loss of 00 and 04 to very shady circumstances, we have to out-organize by such a wide margin that no theft is possible.
Voting alone will not be enough, we have to bring our neighbors and friends to the polls, volunteer to drive, pollwatch, the whole thing.
Work as if it matters, what kind of future we create for our country.
That work starts now.

[Kolesar]

43. I think that all those Dem candidates have to work on messaging

There is a unifying message to be had on energy policy and I just don't hear it yet.

[Gregorian]

45. Forgive me, for I agree completely.

I've even posted how important it is to get an early start, in order for Americans to narrow down their own choices, AND to counter the spin we'll be hit with.


But I do feel these polls are year too early. In fact, I see absolutely zero reasoning for polls. If people can't make up their own minds without polls, we're in deep trouble.

[hogwyld]

32. Go Obama! this country needs a fresh start

I just hope that he doesn't peak too soon.

[debbierlus]

33. Oh god. I can't stand him.

I will never forget trying to fight for the Senate to filibuster Alito. Obama came out the weekend before the vote talking about how divisive it would be and that the filibuster was not the answer. He basically spat on our efforts. I know, I know, he went along with the filibuster but he DENOUNCED it publicly. He made a calculated political move, as did Hiliary. I remember calling both their offices, over & over & over again pleading with them to back Kerry. Only when the public outcry became overwhelming did they decide to go along with it, with MUCH reluctance

And, then when they banned 'partial birth abortion' (the misnomer name), he was outraged by the ruling. Oh, really? Is that a fact? Then, why the hell didn't he lead the fight to keep Alito off the court. They KNEW this maniac could very well be the one to overturn abortion rights in this nation. I will never forgive him for denouncing TRUE democrats fighting the good fight with his ridiculous 'bipartisanship' b.s. Why would I EVER vote for someone who didn't have the courage & foresight to fight to the end against that disastrous nomination?


He doesn't have the experience or the TRUE leadership.

[Colobo]

42. Who has what it takes then?

[iconoclastic cat]

54. Can one catch purity trolls in a jar? Kinda looks like it. nt

[progressoid]

38. Oh, who cares. We want to know how Gravel is doing?

:hide::hide::hide::hide::hide::hide::hide::hide:

[mikelgb]

49. yeah!

[Bucky]

55. A few points: (1) polls at this stage still mean damn little. (2) he could be peaking too soon

(3) Clinton's reshuffling of her campaign staff last week shows that there's still lots of room for political maneuvering on her part. (4) She still has more money and now is certain to spend it much more wisely, with a critical eye on February 5th, where she's still the monster candidate all opponents should fear.

* note: I use the word "monster" to mean impressive and dominating, not monstrous or evil

This is not good news for Obama, merely encouraging news. No Democrat will get any genuinely good news for another 18 months.

I think Obama is a stronger candidate, so I welcome this. But let's not sneer at poll numbers when they look bad and dance about them when they look good.

[Perky]

61. I would be more worried about tepid support for Hillary

I don't sense any real fire in her belly to win and to lead the nation In a new direction. The problem is not that she is "hilary" the problem is that she is boring and unimaginative.

[bigwillq]

56. Polls, Polls

Polls, Polls


Polls, Polls


Hey everyone, it's April (2007)

Polls don't mean that much right now, either way.

:eyes:

[Gloria]

57. For me, it will be even bigger news if Edwards pulls ahead of both....

populism...YAY!

[sellitman]

60. Better than Hillary but.....

Not as good as Kucinich.