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Sheepshank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 06:39 PM
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what's the meaning of the symbolism of rattle snake on yellow flag?
I see it being used, I've seen the Rep Senators wave it at their tea bagging rabble. I think I understand who uses it, I just knot know what it's trying to imply, I just don't really understand the symbolism.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 06:40 PM
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1. "don't tread on me"
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 06:40 PM
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2. "Don't Tread On ME?"
ISn't that a state motto somewhrer?
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 06:42 PM
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3. Here's a wikipedia article about this flag and the symbolism of the rattlesnake
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 06:42 PM
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4. It's from our revolutionary war warning the British.
Why they would want to use it against their own government is beyond me, unless they want to start another revolutionary or civil war.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 06:42 PM
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5. Step on me and I'll bite your ass! It's easier to understand
than that freakin Pine Tree that was also used during the Revolutionary War.

What was that about? "mishandle me and I'll make your hands sticky??????????"
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 06:44 PM
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9. Or, "It's My Life and I'll Do What I Want" n/t
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 08:34 PM
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23. Thank you Eric Burden. n/t
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rampart Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 06:42 PM
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6. "don't tread on me"
the rattlesnake has been a respected flag since the american revolution.

unfortunately glenn beck has hijacked the rattler as symbol of his "9 principles and 12 values" which you should really google for a big laugh.
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 06:42 PM
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7. Revolutionary war symbolism
It's a variant on Gadsden's Flag - "don't tread on me"
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 08:30 PM
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20. umm, it IS the Gadsen flag.
check the link I posted. :eyes:
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 06:44 PM
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8. Google is your friend
http://www.foundingfathers.info/stories/gadsden.html

Don't Tread on Me
The history of the Gadsden flag and how the rattlesnake became a symbol of American independence
by Chris Whitten, July 5, 2001, updated September 2002

American unity

Benjamin Franklin is famous for his sense of humor. In 1751, he wrote a satirical commentary in his Pennsylvania Gazette suggesting that as a way to thank the Brits for their policy of sending convicted felons to America, American colonists should send rattlesnakes to England.

Three years later, in 1754, he used a snake to illustrate another point. This time not so humorous.

Franklin sketched, carved, and published the first known political cartoon in an American newspaper. It was the image of a snake cut into eight sections. The sections represented the individual colonies and the curves of the snake suggested the coastline. New England was combined into one section as the head of the snake. South Carolina was at the tail. Beneath the snake were the ominous words "Join, or Die."

Franklin's Join or Die snake woodcut
Newspaper Serial and Government Publications Division,
Library of Congress.]

This had nothing to do with independence from Britain. It was a plea for unity in defending the colonies during the French and Indian War. It played off a common superstition of the time: a snake that had been cut into pieces could come back to life if you joined the sections together before sunset.

The snake illustration was reprinted throughout the colonies. Dozens of newspapers from Massachusetts to South Carolina ran Franklin's sketch or some variation of it. For example, the Boston Gazette recreated the snake with the words "Unite and Conquer" coming from its mouth.

I suppose the newspaper editors were hungry for graphic material, this being America's first political cartoon. Whatever the reason, Franklin's snake wiggled its way into American culture as an early symbol of a shared national identity.


more at the link --

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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 06:55 PM
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10. Cripe, these people need to grow up and get an education....
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 06:57 PM
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11. It would help if we actually like educated them whike in school
the Gadsen Flag should be like basic US History knowledge... so should be HOW the government works.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 08:29 PM
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19. true -- my kid takes it next year
It should be verrrrrry interesting to see what sort of dribble they are calling *American History* these days.
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Dead_Parrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 07:03 PM
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12. "I live under a rock" nt
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 08:13 PM
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18. lol!
good one
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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 07:03 PM
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13. It means the republican party is eating it's own...
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 07:14 PM
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14. Love the cartoon!
:rofl:
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 07:21 PM
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15. So McCain and Palin will know where not to step during their weekend love-in
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Old Codger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 08:09 PM
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16. Cowardly
Yellow snake in the grass.. from what I have seen
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 08:11 PM
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17. Talking snakes are real, and they can fool women into eating fruit.
:shrug:
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 08:32 PM
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21. and flying monkeys can really pick up and fly with a girl from Kansas
:shrug:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 08:32 PM
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22. who's treading on the teaboogers?
Edited on Sat Mar-27-10 08:34 PM by spanone
cheney & bu$h* tread the entire world
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 08:38 PM
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24. Don't tread on Me.
I can step on my crank without any help, thank you.
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