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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 06:30 AM
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Public discourse: scattered, random, and irrational
http://harpers.org/archive/2010/04/0082894

All of which may be true. But it only skims the surface of a greater tidal shift, one that has little to do with Obama himself and in fact has inundated the whole of our democratic process. This shift, which is subtle and has been many years in the making, might best be understood by considering a design underlying many of the interrogation techniques we employ at the (still-unclosed) prison at Guantánamo or at the black sites we still maintain, wherever they are. That is, bringing about the state known as learned helplessness.

The expression dates from a famous set of experiments by Martin Seligman some forty years ago, in which he found that dogs exposed to repeated and seemingly random electric shocks eventually stopped trying to escape those shocks, even when they could very easily do so. This insight gave rise to “no touch” torture, pioneered in large part by the CIA, whose efforts to “break” prisoners involved all manner of techniques, from the unsavory to the absurd, such as depriving prisoners of sleep for weeks on end, bombarding them with ear-splitting noises, exposing them to extreme heat and cold, shackling them in “stress positions,” tying bras to their heads, making them bark like dogs, and waterboarding them. There is no evidence that such practices enhance the odds that prisoners will provide more useful information to interrogators. It is well established, though, that they will make prisoners docile, and so the techniques remain popular.

For decades now, as our public discourse in general has become more scattered, random, and irrational, Republicans—funded by corporate and other elites in the private sector—have stunned Democrats with absurdist attacks that have proved to be effective at garnering votes and, more important in the long term, at hampering Democrats even when they hold the majority. Democrats have been reduced to a state of psychological helplessness, one in which any political obstacles—ranging from the prevarications of stalking horses like Senators Joe Lieberman and Ben Nelson, to the plaintive cries of the tea-baggers out in the streets, to the sterner demands of the Joint Chiefs of Staff or Big Pharma—are transformed into insurmountable organic obstacles.

We have learned to be helpless. And in this state of political depression, it no longer matters how many elections liberals win for the Democrats, or how badly Republican, right-wing policies fail or how much damage they do to the country or the world. There is simply no way to do anything differently.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 06:39 AM
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1. Sounds rather depressing. People have to become resolute
to change this (people that haven't allowed themselves to succumb to this status quo).
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 06:40 AM
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2. I don't think Democrats are helpless.
Edited on Sun Mar-28-10 06:40 AM by RandomThoughts
I think they are moving and trying to get things done. I do agree its a long struggle, but some stuff gets done.

The idea of helpless creates that thought of helplessness.

I think they are doing much better over the last 4 years.


I do agree there is much that needs to be done, and taking on the money interest is not an easy thing, but it has been done before many times in history, so it can be done again.
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