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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 09:24 AM
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Blame The Gays: "Child Molesting Priests Weren’t Pedophiles Because Most Boys Were Post Pubescent"
Child Molesting Priests Weren’t Pedophiles Because Most Boys Were Post Pubescent

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Earlier in the show Donohue proclaimed that everybody could learn something good from the Catholic Church now that they are all cleaned up. Hey, they look like all those handsome priests from the Legion of Christ now. Nice and young with their hair parted just right. Larry King's panel was dumbfounded by Donohue's statements as any normal person would be.

Roberts: Bill is good but you cannot link homosexuality to a pedophilia crisis in the Catholic Church.

Bill Donohue: It’s not a pedophilia… most of the victims were post pubescent…

Roberts: You know…

Donohue: You’ve got to get your facts straight. I’m sorry. If I’m the only one that’s going to deal with facts tonight so be it. The vast majority of the victims are post pubescent. That’s not pedophilia buddy. That’s homosexuality.

Roberts: Bill, I don’t think as a person of faith that you really know what you’re talking about when it comes to a victim and a survivor. (crosstalk)

Donohue: It’s not of my opinion. Take a look at the social science data. I never said that most homosexuals are that way.

Roberts: No you just said that cut down homosexuals… (crosstalk).

Donohue: Yes! Practicing homosexuals.

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/bill-donohue-child-molesting-priests-weren
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 09:29 AM
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1. And what about the girls who were molested by male Priests????
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 09:30 AM
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2. Unbelievable...simply unbelievable.

What a pathetic creature Donohue is.

:puke:

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Not Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 09:34 AM
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3. It's just petty gossip.
It amazes me how people will still associate with this church.
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Tailormyst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 09:35 AM
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4. I really despise these people
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 09:43 AM
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5. Donohue and his lot
All those who stand against equality in the name of religion, this is who you stand with.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 09:45 AM
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6. Pederast is the word you're looking for, Mr Donohue.
Still shortens to "pedo" though, so maybe that's why you're avoiding it.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 09:46 AM
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8. +1, beat me to it. nt
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 09:45 AM
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7. No, Bill, it's pederasty.
Pedophilia as a medical term refers only to an attraction to very young children. The fact that an adult authority figure forces (through intimidation) homosexual conduct onto slightly older boys does not make it any better. Rape is rape.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 09:47 AM
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9. Self-satisfied ignorance displaying the cruelty inherent to bigotry.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 09:47 AM
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10. Language and moral FAIL - OK, so they're PEDERASTS
"Pederasty" is the official term for adult men having sex with teen boys.

Still not right. Still against the law.

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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 09:49 AM
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11. Puke
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JoshieR Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 09:59 AM
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12. Even in the cases where the kids were postpubescent
it's still statutory rape, and it's still illegal. It's also not necissarily the case that the priests are gay. I may be speaking out of my backside, but if I can recall back to my college criminal justice courses, the urge to rape usually stems from an urge to control others, not necissarily the desire for a certain gender. In other words, a man can be straight but still rape boys, since its about the control and not the anatomy.

Why do people always scapegoat any cases of social deviance to the homosexual community? Talk about ignorance...
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 10:02 AM
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13. welcome JoshieR
"Why" because they can get away with it.
You are right, this is not about sexual urges - it is about control and power.

Too many of us know this all too well...

thanks for your reply, kpete
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 10:07 AM
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16. Welcome to DU Joshie and excellent post!
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 10:06 AM
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14. Donahue is a scum bag. a lying sack of shit.
The only good thing about these scandals is that they reveal what totally worthless criminal hacks are behind institutions of power.

This man has nothing to say about morality.

It is past time to TAX RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS.

And in this case, it's time for leaders of this church to be behind bars. If Jim Baker and his stupid ponzi scheme is worth jail time, WHY isn't it worth jail time to operate the most pervasive child pedophile ring in the entire world?

that's what the church was doing, no matter what they called it.

Donahue is a repulsive person. he defends pedophiles by attacking homosexuals. what a sick piece of shit you must be to get to that point.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 10:31 AM
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21. actually, Donahue is saying what the pope said Sept. 2009
In a statement, read out by Archbishop Silvano Maria Tomasi at a meeting of the United Nations Human Rights Council in Geneva on 22 September 2009, the Holy See stated that the majority of Catholic clergy who had committed acts of sexual abuse against under 18 year olds should not be viewed as paedophiles, but as homosexuals who are attracted to sex with adolescent males. The statement said that rather than paedophilia, "it would be more correct to speak of ephebophilia; being a homosexual attraction to adolescent males" ....... "Of all priests involved in the abuses, 80 to 90% belong to this sexual orientation minority which is sexually engaged with adolescent boys between the ages of 11 and 17."<89>

search terms: donahue + pedophile=wiki link to this statement.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_sex_abuse_cases

the catholic system of celibacy sets up a climate for pedophiles to have a place to abuse, even if this is not the intent. Celibacy attracts those who are disturbed by their sexual impulses. Celibacy seems like the way to stop these impulses from becoming actions. then, the same people with these problems are put in charge of children who are told these men are like god.

then the church tells the parents of the abused, parents who were also taught that these men are like god, that they will deal with the issue. the church decides they are above the law.

When Pope Benedict was personally accused in a lawsuit of conspiring to cover up the molestation of three boys in Texas by Patino-Arango in Archdiocese of Galveston-Houston, he sought and obtained diplomatic immunity from prosecution.<2> Some have claimed that this immunity was granted after intervention by then US President George W. Bush.<3> The Department of State "recognize and allow the immunity of Pope Benedict XVI from this suit.

Since the 1950s, pedophilia has cost the church over a billion dollars. Recent estimates of the pay out to victims of abuse in Ireland alone puts the settlement (tho not pay out thus far) at around a billion dollars.

This organization can afford to pay billions of dollars for its failure to protect children because of its desire, that it recognized as more important than children, to protect the wealth and power of the church.

If that's not a description of a morally repugnant organization, I don't know what is.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 10:07 AM
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15. WTF is the matter with these people?
Can't watch the vid because I don't want my kids to see it.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 10:08 AM
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17. Donohue has proven he is nothing but a piece of shit over and over again
This is par for the course for him.

Don
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 10:12 AM
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19. Correct.
n/t
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 10:10 AM
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18. Face it, people. This corrupt organization will stop at nothing if they can shirk responsibility.
Edited on Wed Mar-31-10 10:11 AM by closeupready
Okay? They are going to blame the cycles of the moon before this all plays out. Maybe even start another Inquisition.

They. Are. Not. Going. To. Accept. Responsibility. K?
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 10:15 AM
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20. what a sick man
Edited on Wed Mar-31-10 10:17 AM by fascisthunter
my mother was a life-long Catholic, and although I was sad to see her loss, as she watched it become more right wing, more extreme, and exposed for it's corruption, I was happy to see her free from their grasp. This church will see a greater decline in membership...
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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 10:51 AM
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22. If you point out that the Pope was an unapologetic Nazi and complicit in...
the cover up of hundreds of child molestations you are now a bigot. Catholics are now blaming all of their troubles on homosexuals and people who are bigoted against them.



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