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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 05:34 PM
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What's YOUR defn of pro-choice, pro-life?
Edited on Thu Apr-22-10 05:39 PM by uppityperson
Definitions matter in communication. For me, pro-life means anti-choice, that abortions should be illegal, period. For me, pro-choice means keeping the choice of a legal, hygienic abortion legal.

Since definitions matter, and these 2 terms are defined in many different ways, what are YOUR definitions? The better we can understand what the other person means, the more likely true communication can happen.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 05:36 PM
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1. Pro life also means a lot of other things
Anti welfare
Pro war
Pro death penalty
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 05:38 PM
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2. Seems like we hold the same opinions of that term.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 05:38 PM
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3. Pro-life actually means anti-life/choice to them. At least that is
my version of the definition. You can't be pro-life and have no issue with women dying because of unsanitary abortions. They are actually pro-fetus.
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Naturalist111 Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 05:42 PM
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4. Here is mine
Edited on Thu Apr-22-10 05:52 PM by Naturalist111
Pro choice: Freedom to choose whether to have a baby or not. I myself will be judged about my decision not you.
Pro life:A fetus is holy. Once born, you're on your own. God help you if your not American, we will bomb your ass and kill you.

My point is are Pro Life people really pro life? Is it just a lie?
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 05:44 PM
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5. The same as pro-slavery, anit-slavery.
Making women slaves to the state, their own bodies, or religion, is lavery..and I'm against it.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 05:44 PM
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6. The already born take preference
Edited on Thu Apr-22-10 05:46 PM by HockeyMom
over the unborn. As someone who had an ectopic pg, MY life, my already BORN daughter's life, takes preference over any 5 week old embryo which may or may not make it to be born.

A 3 year old living, breathing, child needs a mother far more than she needs a sibling. That is the bottom line. li
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 05:49 PM
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7. Pro-choice IS pro-life. eom
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 05:51 PM
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9. What do you mean?
I think I know, but again, there are too many implied things in those terms, liking to get clear. thanks.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 05:50 PM
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8. Pro-Choice - Letting adults make choices from abortion to where they drink, what they wear, etc
If you think adults should be free to choose at least be consistent about it, which so many do not seem to be at times.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 05:52 PM
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10. Pro-life sounds pretty hypocritical when you find out they JUST mean the 'baby'.
And ONLY BEFORE birth. Pro-choice OTOH sounds progressive imo.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 05:57 PM
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11. "Pro-Lifers" prefer birth control after the fact, i.e., executions...
In fact, there's nothing genuinely "pro-life" about them. They are obsessed with death, right down to the fake fetuses they carry around in jars for "show 'n tell."

Ont the other hand, the term "pro-choice" is extraordinarily truthful, fair, reasonable and realistic. It begins and ends with the woman's body -- it is hers, and hers to chose what to do with it.

Anybody can believe abortion is "bad" or "wrong", but ultimately, the government should not be allowed to have the power to control women's bodies. You'd think that the right wing, with all their "smaller government" lip-service, would get that.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 06:09 PM
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12. The only way to have clarity in discussion is to accept the definition
given by the majority of those who hold that position.

Pro life means anti choice, no abortion under any circumstance.

Pro life is not just two words, it is political and social movement.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 11:31 AM
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13. I disagree, that may be a place to start, but many have different definitions
For me, "pro-life" is a euphemism for no abortions, ever. However, the death penalty and killing in wars is ok if, in the "pro-lifer"s opinion, they are "bad guys". Hence the euphemism.

If you look at the words, take apart the phrase, it means "for life" which we all are in some manner or another.

Figuring out what someone means will help communication. Do they mean "no abortions but death penalty and wars are ok"? Do they mean they are breatharians? Do they mean they want living creatures to stay alive?

I'd like to hear from posters who declare themselves "pro-life" regarding legal hygienic abortion access as to what they mean.

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