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IndianaJoe (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 01:27 AM Original message |
If I was a typical Mexican, I'd be here illegally. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 01:33 AM Response to Original message |
1. Not I. Id turn my corn field into a pot farm (after subsidized US corn killed my livelihood) |
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IndianaJoe (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 01:35 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I heard about that last night on PBS |
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WorseBeforeBetter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 01:39 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. It's also an issue covered in "Food, Inc.", but many Americans... |
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speedcat (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 01:54 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. ethanol too |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 01:40 AM Response to Original message |
4. Most of the people who rail against illegal immigrants |
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rapturedbyrobots (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 02:44 AM Response to Reply #4 |
13. most of the people who rail against illegal aliens |
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proudohioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 04:16 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. That is too true! |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 04:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
69. Not really... |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 10:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
75. Then why were the Anglos up in my home town last summer looking |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 08:59 AM Response to Reply #75 |
120. Why did they then? |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 10:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
77. My family and I didn't - we |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 01:43 AM Response to Original message |
5. i can't get past the term, "typical mexican." |
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IndianaJoe (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 01:53 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Sorry I offended your sensibilities. |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 02:29 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. not just my "sensibilities".... |
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IndianaJoe (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 02:59 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Well, let's agree to disagree. |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 03:58 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. seriously...? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 08:29 PM Response to Reply #14 |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 10:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
70. oh the old "sorry if I..." |
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miscsoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:03 PM Response to Reply #70 |
82. this witless thread illustrates something |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:33 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. That's cute: the OP cares but those who criticize him are just trying to look good |
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IndianaJoe (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 09:35 AM Response to Reply #86 |
92. I don't think that's what he was saying at all. |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 07:19 PM Response to Reply #92 |
101. ...because it supports you. |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 07:18 PM Response to Reply #86 |
100. +10 |
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DaveinJapan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 04:09 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Oh, brother. If he'd written "ordinary" or "regular", would you still be up in arms? nt |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 04:13 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. well, since you asked... |
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DaveinJapan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 07:46 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. I commented because I thought your reply was a bit much. |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 06:05 PM Response to Reply #20 |
37. first and foremost... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 12:35 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. You mean we can never refer to any group without being insensitive? |
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rcrush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Only on DU does someone go out of their way to be offended |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 05:39 PM Response to Reply #25 |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 07:54 PM Response to Reply #29 |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 07:45 PM Response to Reply #25 |
103. actually, i didn't go out of my way.... |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 05:51 PM Response to Reply #23 |
33. translation.... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:17 AM Response to Reply #33 |
122. I have empathy for you |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 10:30 PM Response to Reply #23 |
76. no, we're offended that he wrongly assumed they were all illegals |
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miscsoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 10:34 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. what the fuck is wrong with being an illegal |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 10:42 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. if they aren't it's wrong to assume they all are |
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miscsoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 10:48 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. i don't think anyone assumes they literally all are |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:26 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. stereotyping bugs me okay? |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 07:42 PM Response to Reply #78 |
102. um....let's start w/the term.... |
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miscsoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #102 |
115. i don't have any problem with calling them undocumented immigrants |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:20 AM Response to Reply #76 |
125. OMG I'd be offended every day all day long if I had that thin a skin. |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:18 AM Response to Reply #12 |
124. There is a perceived "typical" |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 07:51 AM Response to Reply #5 |
21. Thank You.....WTF is a "typical Mexican"? |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 05:35 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. last i checked... |
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NM_hemilover (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 09:37 AM Response to Reply #28 |
58. typical response, |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 07:46 PM Response to Reply #58 |
104. read my other responses... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 12:33 PM Response to Reply #5 |
22. OP was imagining being in a different person's shoes |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 05:44 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. so you're clairvoyant...? |
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IndianaJoe (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 07:52 PM Response to Reply #30 |
42. So you can comment on my posts |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #5 |
27. That term stopped me also, but reading on the rest, ignoring phrasing like |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 05:49 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. you're certainly entitled to your opinion. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 05:53 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. I know what you mean about the terminology. Am watching it |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 06:11 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. too many members here... |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
62. What about a typical American? |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
83. +1 |
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PDJane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
6. That's because most Americans |
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speedcat (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 01:53 AM Response to Original message |
7. there is no other way |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 02:09 AM Response to Original message |
10. I'm a typical "white guy" - I'm here illegally. |
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proudohioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 04:24 AM Response to Reply #10 |
19. Hey, I guess that makes part of me illegal, too! |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 12:37 PM Response to Reply #10 |
24. My right wing relative used to brag about an ancestor who came |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 08:32 PM Response to Reply #10 |
54. LOL |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 02:20 AM Response to Original message |
11. Agree 100% |
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Texasgal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
26. I wouldn't WANT to be illegal |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 08:24 PM Response to Reply #26 |
51. No one wants to live like that. n/t |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
31. So the laws don't matter as long as someone wants a better life? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 08:41 PM Response to Reply #31 |
55. Stop blowing up my home and I won't need to move into yours. |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
35. I am not sure if the "average",(I like that word better) Mexican would have enough tenacity ... |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
36. The "typical" life of a Mexican person is "hopeless"? |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 06:23 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. thank you. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 07:55 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. The 'I would kill myself if I were one of THOSE people' attitude is common... |
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IndianaJoe (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 07:57 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. Well, it isn't paradise. |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 07:49 PM Response to Reply #45 |
105. lemme' guess... |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
40. The op is as offensive as the law, imo.... |
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IndianaJoe (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 07:51 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. I'm an Immigration Lawyer lady. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 08:22 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. Ah yes, a variation of "some of my best friends are..." |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 08:31 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. I think you are confusng a stereotype with a generalization. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 10:46 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Point taken but here's the problem as I see it: |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 11:37 AM Response to Reply #56 |
61. Pro immigration activists are polarizing because of their mere existance these days, imo. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 09:26 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. But many pro-immigration groups are funded by Big Business. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 03:51 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. That is a *very* important point. |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 07:07 PM Response to Reply #49 |
98. Yes, thank YOU... |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 07:15 PM Response to Reply #41 |
99. I'm sorry.... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:14 AM Response to Reply #41 |
121. Welcome |
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haele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
46. Uh, no. In border towns, the "typical Mexican" is shopping in the US or visiting relatives |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
47. "They are the sort of people we want" |
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IndianaJoe (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 09:24 AM Response to Reply #47 |
57. I guess I wonder how you talk about anyone in the plural |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 07:53 PM Response to Reply #57 |
106. the english language.... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
48. I agree with that. You're a lawyer, I used to be a Spanish interpreter |
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IndianaJoe (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 11:18 AM Response to Reply #48 |
59. I was stationed in Monterey for awhile |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 11:27 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. So is "ambience" code for something, buddy? |
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Zipp (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
50. If I could run a 4.4 - 40 |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
63. Just use the word "ordinary" next time instead of typical. It'll save you a lot of grief. |
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IndianaJoe (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 04:39 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. Thanks for the advice! I'm taking it! Sheesh! n/t |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 10:10 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Don't use either term...especially if you like, aren't talking about most people in Mexico |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 07:57 PM Response to Reply #63 |
107. meh... |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
66. "typical" "Mexicans" live in Mexico and and "typical" Americans of Mexican descent... |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 07:58 PM Response to Reply #66 |
108. exactly...! |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
67. Most countries are difficult to legally immigrate to . Why should we be any different? |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 10:40 PM Response to Reply #67 |
79. Right now, I'm older with a pre-existing condition and I can't get health insurance or a real job. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
73. If I was a typical Mexican |
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miscsoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
74. look at the visa waiver program |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-10 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
84. Please provide your definition of a "typical Mexican". I'm curious. |
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IndianaJoe (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 08:42 AM Response to Reply #84 |
87. If I was offensive, my apologies. |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 08:53 PM Response to Reply #87 |
111. why do you apologize with "if"...? |
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Dr. Strange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
88. And if I were a typical Asian... |
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AsahinaKimi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 09:23 AM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Not sure I know anyone who does that but |
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Dr. Strange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 09:29 AM Response to Reply #89 |
90. Ooh, nice Shinai. |
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AsahinaKimi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 09:49 AM Response to Reply #90 |
93. When I go to Chinatown |
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BoWanZi (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
91. Stop harping on the whole "typical mexican" thing, please? |
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IndianaJoe (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 11:37 AM Response to Reply #91 |
94. Thanks for the post. |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 08:43 PM Response to Reply #91 |
110. what you see as an apology... |
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Flaneur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
95. Too many self-appointed thread police on this thread. |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 09:49 PM Response to Reply #95 |
114. guess it depends on one's view. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
96. If I were a typical american, I'd make it stop. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
97. lol "typical Mexican". |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 08:25 PM Response to Reply #97 |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 09:10 PM Response to Reply #97 |
113. many on this thread need to consider... |
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miscsoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:48 PM Response to Reply #113 |
116. i read that thread and your comment here and am thinking about them |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 12:26 AM Response to Reply #116 |
117. okey dokey... |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
112. If you were Mexican, you'd have heard there's a job waiting for you |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 12:27 AM Response to Original message |
118. Who is a typical Mexican? n/t |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 01:10 AM Response to Original message |
119. While everything you say may be true, here is why I'm against illegal immigration |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
123. If you were a "typical Mexican" wouldn't you try to improve your country |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:22 AM Response to Reply #123 |
126. Maybe the "typical" European of the 19th century should have done the same? |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:52 AM Response to Reply #126 |
127. You win. You refuted my suggestion. |
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