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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 07:14 AM
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Clowns to the Left of Me, Nutters to the Right
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Clowns to the Left of Me, Nutters to the Right

by BooMan

Fri Apr 23rd, 2010 at 04:50:32 PM EST


Steve Benen:

Long-time readers may recall a discussion we had back in December, about the quality of the debate over health care reform. It was obvious at the time that the meaningful, interesting disputes weren't between conservatives and liberals, but between liberals and other liberals.

It's not that the right remained silent; it's that they offered arguments that no serious person could find credible. Consider, just off the top of your head, the most prominent concerns raised by opponents of the Affordable Care Act. What comes to mind? "Death panels." "Socialism." "Government takeover."

It was the biggest domestic policy fight in a generation, but most of the policy debate was spent debunking transparent, child-like nonsense. The left approached the debate with vibrancy, energy, and seriousness. The right thought it was fascinating to talk about the number of pages in the legislation
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This is a result of the FrankLuntzification of the Republican Party. Nevermind the frothing maniacs on the radio or Fox News, the Republicans are actually operating in lockstep on the basis of focus-grouped talking points. Then the nutters throw in some Death Panel nonsense for good measure and suddenly Chuck Grassley isn't looking to cut a deal but talking about a government conspiracy to kill our grandmas.

So, yeah, there is no doubt that the only interesting political conversations going on in this country right now are between liberals and other liberals, and sometimes with centrist Democrats, too. The only factual criticism of the president is coming from the left. And there is plenty of it. A lot of it isn't fair, but much of it is. I heard David Brooks say on NPR today that the whole Crist-Rubio spectacle (and what is signifies for the modern GOP) makes him want to suck on a tailpipe. I don't blame him.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 07:29 AM
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1. And here I am stuck in the middle again.
:hi:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 07:31 AM
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2. Hey! I know the feeling!
:hi:

Good to see you! :D
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 07:53 AM
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4. I still can't hear that song without thinking about Quentin Tarantino.
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 07:35 AM
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3. We need to redefine what being Democrats mean.
Edited on Sat Apr-24-10 07:36 AM by political_Dem
Now is the time to choose.

1)Do we embrace FDR and Kennedy's Democrats (a party for the people by the people that enacts social change)?

2)Do we embrace the Clintonesque Democrats (a centrist, corporation-embracing group that kisses up to Republicans while rolling over and playing dead whenever the Republicans do something to assert power.)?


We can't be hanging in the middle if we want to positively make this country a better place.
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