PREDICTION: They'll arrest somebody for the Times Square Event within 48 hours

[WeDidIt]

He had Connecticut plates on the SUV that were registered to another vehicle.

This was a full blown amateur which is indicative of a completely domestic event.

I'm about 75% sure they already have a name and are seeking the perpetrator now.

[hobbit709]

1. Once they check the VIN, they'll know whose car it is.

[sufrommich]

2. The car is probably stolen. nt

[WeDidIt]

5. Most likely stolen

But the whole thing was so amateurish that it's obvious the perpetrator left a trail of bread crumbs that will lead right to him.

[malaise]

10. No VIN number

according to GEM$NBC

[WeDidIt]

14. There will be a VIN

VINs are located in numerous places in cars.

The VIN plate in the dash was probably removed, but that doesn't remove the VIN completely.

They're currently tearing that SUV apart.

[sendero]

15. Exactly..

... it is almost impossible to remove the VIN from a modern auto.

[NNN0LHI]

22. There are about a dozen VINs on every car

Even the people like me who assembled cars were not allowed to know where they are all located.

Don

[malaise]

42. Yep they found it n/t

[sendero]

49. More evidence..

... that this was carried out by a moron.

[mwb970]

56. I agree.

This is definitely the work of a conservative.

[madokie]

46. Thats good to know

When I purchase a big item I stamp my ss number on it in various places, one that will be seen pretty easily then the others requiring a partial tear down. Just in case I want identify it later. I know a person who had his tools stolen and he found a couple of them but because he couldn't tell the investigators enough to make a positive identification he lost them anyway. I try my best to not let that happen, it had a scratch here or it had a bump there won't get it. Well I took the switch out and filed that little diddly thingy there that was bugging me works every time though or I replaced one of the brake lite bulbs or a switch and or had broken some little piece or what ever works though. If you use a stamp to put a number or letter in a piece of metal no matter if its ground off it can still be seen using the right techniques. Not sure about welding over it but that would raise questions because you can identify that as the place I put my name or a number.

[meow2u3]

48. Check the transmission and the engine

Transmissions and engines also have VIN's.

[blueamy66]

52. Really?

That's interesting to know.

Thanks. Wow.

[NNN0LHI]

60. Here is a partial list of the places you can find them on the Pathfinder

Nissan Axxess, Van

Pickup, Pathfinder

280Z, ZX

All others excl. above Left side of dash (thru windshield)
Front left floor panel
Left side of dash (thru windshield)
Right inner fender
Left side of dash (thru windshield)
Right strut housing
Left side of dash (thru windshield)
Firewall 10th

http://www.autohausaz.com/html/vehicle_identification_numbers.html

[Ikonoklast]

66. Every computer system on that vehicle has a VIN in it.

Cannot be easily read, and impossible to remove.

[slackmaster]

67. Every time I work on my Pathfinder I find another one

The last one was inside of the rear side bumper on the driver's side.

[NNN0LHI]

71. And the only way you can find them all is to completely disassemble the vehicle

Which I don't reccomend doing.

:rofl:

Don

[slackmaster]

72. Disassembling it wouldn't be all that bad

Getting it back together would be a major hassle.

[sufrommich]

3. I agree, they probably already know who they're

looking for.

[Ian David]

4. They also found fingerprints.

http://twitter.com/BreakingNews/status/13242979636

[WeDidIt]

8. Yep, that's why I figure they already know who it is.

I'm betting it's a veteran, which means the fingerprints are in the FBI database.

[sufrommich]

17. Why would you think it's a veteran? nt

[WeDidIt]

24. I think it's about 75% likely this was a right wing militia member.

Those who are used as 'foot soldiers' in the very militant right wing militias are usually veterans which makes it highly likely to be a veteran if this is right wing terrorism.

The next most likely possibility is a disaffected domestic Muslim. There is a slight chance that such a profile would be a veteran.

Given that this is highly likely to be a domestic attack, the chances are very good it was a veteran. I'd give it a better than 50% chance.

[Codeine]

29. 87% of statistics are made up on the spot. nt

[WeDidIt]

31. You have a reading comprehension problem, don't you?

:eyes:

[Codeine]

37. Just pointing out

that you're pulling odds completely out of your ass. I mean, I actually agree with you as to the likelihood of this being domestic terrorism, but assigning numeric odds based on absolutely nothing is silly. All the rolley-eyes in the world won't change that.

[WeDidIt]

39. What do the words "I think" or "I'd say" say to you?

Yep, reading comprehension problem there.

I was completely up front that this was 100% my personal speculation.

You decided to be an asshole.

Good bye.

[Codeine]

40. LOL!

Somebody woke up on the wrong side of the intarwebz today!

[Hassin Bin Sober]

53. Giving odds is, in no way, quoting "statistics"

Just because he used percentages to express his opinion that doesn't make it a "statistic"

[Codeine]

54. It was a one-liner somebody took WAY too seriously.

At least I amused myself. :hi:

[Iggo]

61. And the vast majority of people who use "the vast majority"...

...as a substitute for actual statistical data are making it up.

Myself included.;)

[Dorian Gray]

47. Seriously?

Why a veteran?

I know you answer below, but that still reeks of blaming VETERANS.

Wow.

[WeDidIt]

55. Bullshit

It's merely an observation.

You sound like the rightwingnuts who went ballistic after the DHS report on rightwingnut terrorism was released.

[Abq_Sarah]

68. I'd hope a veteran

Could come up with a better explosive device.

[stray cat]

44. However those fingerprints have to be in the record for someone

[Ikonoklast]

70. Why? Unless that person has been fingerprinted previously

and kept on a governmental database, there is no way to make a match.


My fingerprints wouldn't turn up a match to anything, as there is no record of them on file by anyone, let alone a law enforcement agency of any kind.

[saltpoint]

6. I predict it will be Mel Gibson.

[sufrommich]

9. lol. nt

[WeDidIt]

13. HA!

:rofl:

[lonestarnot]

58. Spray!

:spray: :rofl:

[msanthrope]

63. Yeah, but will he call the FBI agents "sugar tits?" n/t

[saltpoint]

73. LOL. If anybody could get away with it, it might be Mel.

[LiberalLoner]

7. Wonder if it will end up being a right-wing terrorism incident? n/t

[WeDidIt]

11. I'd say that's the most likely scenario.

My bet is, it's a right wing nutball who is also a veteran and a militia member.

[malaise]

12. I'm betting yes on that n/t

[divvy]

19. I bet that it is another McVeigh type incident.

Some teabaggers are even starting to imortalize that ass.

[Frank Cannon]

21. As this was obviously the work of an incompetent, cowardly dumbass

I would say that your average right-winger fits the profile to a "Tea".

[divvy]

38. Unless, it was designed to be an attention getting dud

In that case, it would increase the odds of it being a case of domestic terrorism. A false-flag event designed to Arizona'ize NYC?

[Christa]

16. I think Halliburton has a finger in this pie. nt

[sufrommich]

18. Somehow I think Halliburton could make a better effort than this.

Why would they do it anyway?

[Christa]

25. It knocked the environmental disaster off the headlines

and they played a huge part in it.

Also, they would WANT to make it look like an amateur.

[sufrommich]

33. I'm pretty sure a massive oil spill off the coast of America

will be front page news for quite some time. Just because Halliburton is your bad guy du jour doesn't make them responsible for every bad thing that happens.

[WeDidIt]

36. Candy Crowley is talking about it on CNN

I flipped back to MSNBC since Morning Joke is now over.

[KharmaTrain]

20. Snap Judgement Corporate Media

No sooner does an incident of this scope occur than the media begins to guess who did it, why and what else do they have planned. They roll in the "experts" who add their own speculation and second guess every little thread they can pull. Hours are filled with lots of wasted verbage based on little information that has turned many into expecting some kind of instant answer or who will use the vaccuum of legitimate information to use this event to push an agenda.

I'm very grateful that this thing didn't go off and the heads up to those who quickly noted something suspicious and the quick response by the NYPD. I'm also glad that this thing didn't occur during a weekday, not only for the damage that would have occured with even more people in the area but that the corporate media was busy at their drinkie-drinkie party inside the beltway rather than blathering endlessly with all their "theories" and "experts".

My bets are we hear something by tomorrow afternoon to tamp down the speculation that's sure to happen when the usual suspects get in front of the cameras and microphones tomorrow.

[Jennicut]

23. CT plates? I can guarentee one thing, it wasn't me.

Other then that, it is all pure speculation for now.

"A law enforcement official told CNN on Sunday that the Connecticut plate came from an automobile junkyard near Bridgeport, Connecticut. Under Connecticut law, plates must be returned to a local Department of Motor Vehicle branch or to a Connecticut state trooper if a car is to be junked for scrap metal."http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/05/02/times.square.closure/index.html

Freaking Bridgeport of all places.

[TheCowsCameHome]

41. Getting the plate was probably the easiest part of this scheme.

[Jennicut]

51. Well, yeah. Especially in Bridgeport.

[rucky]

26. amateur = domestic? Shoe bomber? underpants bomber?

not seeing the logic in that conclusion.

[WeDidIt]

28. Shoe bomber and underpants bomber

were both events on international transport.

Both events were designed to test security procedures.

Both used patsies because the likelihood of a successful attack was remote in both cases and little to no training was provided to either patsy.

[Robb]

27. They'll bring people in for questioning, sure.

But I don't think they'll arrest the bomber in 48.

[TheCowsCameHome]

30. This incident doesn't pass the professional terrorist test.

It'll be interesting to see who was behind it.

[divvy]

45. GOAL: To Arizona - ize NYC.

My Guess:

Right Wing
White Male
American
Flag Waving Patriot
TEABAGGER
McVeigh / Ruby Ridge / Waco fanatic
2nd Ammendment Gun Nut
Fundamentalist Evangelical Christian

and most importantly:

Anti-Immigration Zealot.


Think about it. NYC is the national symbol for immigration.

Remember ..... You heard it here first !

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[Libertas1776]

32. It was either

an homegrown AQ wannabe, a teabagger nut job, or perhaps someone has a gripe with ConEd, again...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_A._Brussel#James_A._Brussel


Thankfully it wasn't a cantaloupe (It's a reference to the original Taking of Pelham 123)

[liberal N proud]

34. Times Square has hundreds of surveillance cameras

[WeDidIt]

35. Yep

They're building a case now and are searching for the perp. It's highly likely they know precisely who did this.

[msanthrope]

64. They probably have multiple images, n/t

[stray cat]

43. The bombers on airplanes have been pretty amateur as well - but not domestic

I think you are right - but not all islamic extremist terrorists are sophisticated and domestic terrorists are not always unsophisticated.

[WeDidIt]

57. I don't discount the possibility of a Major Hasan redux

but I think it's nowhere near as likely as a rightwing nutjob.

[WinkyDink]

50. Somebody who listens to FOX radio.

[WeDidIt]

59. I'd say it;s a good chance this was a Beckerhead. n/t

[kentuck]

62. Maybe they don't want to arrest him so quickly??

Maybe they want to see if he has other accomplices?

[Stevenmarc]

65. All I hope is that they have ties to the teabaggers

[Catshrink]

69. I'm sure Jack Bauer is already beating the guys brains out.

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[Mekki]

76. I highly doubt that.

I highly doubt that.

[Swamp Rat]

77. Of course you do because you saw the news that a Pakistani man had been arrested over 5 hours ago,

like everyone else who has watched the news over the last few hours.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/05/nyregion/05bomb.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/04/AR2010050400192.html?hpid=topnews