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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 10:21 PM
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Now that this Shazhad guy has been arrested, I apologize to the teabaggers
At least, I can admit the mistake of hasty judgement here.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 10:28 PM
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1. You like the rest of us were basing our belief on what the MSM
Edited on Tue May-04-10 10:35 PM by MadMaddie
reported.

Think about this the MSM would not identify the "White male 40ish suspect" as a potential Terrorist suspect. They would not use the word terrorist. Did you notice that?

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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 10:30 PM
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2. +1
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 10:31 PM
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3. Come to think of it, you're very right
They definitely have their rulez when it comes to euphemisms
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 10:33 PM
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5. We base our beliefs on our biases.
We WANTED to believe it was some white teabagger, because we don't like white teabaggers.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 10:40 PM
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10. Is it really biases? Or is it that the Teabaggers have given us
a reason to consider them threats?

The worst thing that we can do as citizens is pretend that they the Teabaggers or any group is incapable of committing an act like an unrepetent Timothy McVeigh? Death threats to the President and his family.

I was watching a special on the assasination of MLK and I had to turn it...because they were interviewing those that were with MLK and they said....the hate rhetoric was at a fever pitch.....

The next part I am paraphrasing...

White America was in an uproar because they didn't know why their lives and their way of life had to change.....
The blacks had no right to push for change...
MLK was a Communist
MLK was a Socialist

Sound familiar....?
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 11:01 PM
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13. Your mileage may vary...
But I work and live around lots of teabaggers. This is Utah, and it's right-wing Central.

They don't like Pres. Obama, they think we're on a road to socialism...

But not a single one is saying anything about violence.

I'm not saying those nutcases aren't out there. I'm just saying I know plenty of the tea people, and they're misguided as hell, but they're not advocating anything violent.
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 12:03 AM
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20. i say the same here in florida
just misguided people concerned and feeling unheard but not violent
i think a lot of projection has gone on
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 12:18 AM
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21. Yup. Some of them I work with are actually great, nice, loving people.
Some wonderful neighbors. I know it's easy, when we see video of teabaggers yelling, sounding angry, waving their signs with which we don't agree...it's easy to think they're all a bunch of uneducated racists, this close to blowing up a building.

And then your RW neighbor helps you fix your car. Or your other RW neighbor babysits your kids for free. Or you have a political discussion at work with a tea person, and the chat is civil, amicable, and an open exchange of facts and opinions, and at the end the other guy says, "We'll probably never agree on much politically, but I respect you and your right to believe the way you do."

But I guess I'm supposed to HATE the "teabaggers" because they don't agree with me. And I'm supposed to be afraid they'll firebomb my house.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 12:52 AM
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24. Same in Georgia.
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Abq_Sarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 11:52 PM
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19. have they committed acts of violence?
I don't see them throwing firebombs or breaking windows.

Is the rhetoric one sided? Oh, hell no.

What we're seeing is an attempt from some people to criminalize, in their minds, people who oppose what they want. Many of the same people who would support civil disobedience from our side, would be the first to cry treason! if it comes from the right.

Politics have become increasingly toxic in the last decade and the blame should be shared equally.
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quickesst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 11:07 PM
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15. I agree one-hundred percent.....
...The question the op and so many others, excuses and all need to ask themselves is "Why am I in this position of having to apologize in the first place?" The answer is so fucking simple it hurts. For those that don't understand, here it is. TRY WAITING A DAY OR TWO, MAYBE THREE WHEN ALL, OR AT LEAST MOST OF THE FACTS ARE KNOWN BEFORE MAKING assUMPTIONS THAT WILL COME BACK TO HAUNT YOU. After all the years DU has been in existence, why isn't this a simple lesson yet to be learned? Thanks.
quickesst
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 11:11 PM
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17. In this case, I doubt anyone will be "haunted" by those rash assumptions,
but yes, this is a VERY kneejerk-prone environment here. We LOVE to judge first and get the facts later (if ever).
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 12:56 AM
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26. It's based on a trend.
Most domestic violent attacks have been from conservatives.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 06:20 AM
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29. Actually
That original surveillance video is what got that ball rolling. Shirt-Man was just changing his damned shirt yet the MSM played that tape over and over and we (me included) ate it up with a spoon.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 10:32 PM
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4. Sorry about Ernie Harwell, nt
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 10:34 PM
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6. Thanks
He was part of the sound track of my childhood
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pecwae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 05:38 AM
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28. If you truly want to stop
bigotry and racism why not do your part by ceasing to use crass, ignorant terminology when referring to others?
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KonaKane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 10:35 PM
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8. Oh, stay tuned. They will try for sure.
The Hutarees were caught before they could do any real damage, thank God. But the baggers are not finished by a long shot. I predict a major violent incident, perhaps even terrorist attack, by them in the next 6 to 8 months.

As Mr. Pitt might say, "Bank it.".
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 12:33 AM
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22. Hmm...
Is that 6 to 8 BUSINESS months? Or calendar months?
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Recovered Repug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 07:15 AM
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31. Oh damn.
:rofl:
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 12:54 AM
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25. I doubt it.
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 07:20 AM
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33. Is that 6 to 8 business months, then?
:eyes:
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 10:38 PM
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9. I had to own up to one of my coworkers today for the same reason.
It's easy to jump to conclusions, but it's better to acknowledge mistakes and move on. That takes a bigger person. I'm with ya, Mr. Scorpio.
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ericinne Donating Member (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 10:43 PM
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11. Bullshit
Hutaree!!

I wouldn't apologize, a terrorist is a terrorist.

Muslim extremist, Christian extremist tea bagger... makes no difference.

What shocks me is these 2 groups hate each other. You'd think they would get along well since both seem to think violence and murdering innocent people is the way to get your message across.

These sick freaks have more in common with each other then differences, I'm surprised they aren't exchanging bomb making ideas somewhere.

I'm sorry, I have just come to hate conservatism, not hate in the sense that I would turn one of these people away... because unlike them, I am civil... but hate in the sense that I see their naive thinking as a setback to what could be a better world for all if they weren't such hate filled people.

The worse kind of hate filled, are the ones who think they are not being hateful, but rather patriotic, or baptized by the fukking Jesus zombie himself with a license to pass judgment.

So DON'T apologize. Hold your ground and keep the pressure on.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 10:47 PM
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12. Now that's just silly.
There are clear distinctions to be considered here.

I really don't see any point to lumping all these people together.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 11:02 PM
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14. I apologize to the teabaggers, too.
They were obviously too stupid to create such a ridiculously amateurish bomb as a radicalized Muslim.

:evilgrin:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 11:10 PM
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16. Yep did the same thing, I was wrong and I will admit to equating
their stupid foiled plan with stupid foiled tea-baggers.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 11:20 PM
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18. I think they would rather be called McVeigh Wannabees
than reminded that they once called themselves "teabaggers".
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 12:37 AM
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23. Oh, come on, the whole thing screamed "Redneck!:"
especially that one clock. Besides, the early indications were a middle aged white guy, QED.

That an Islamic terrorist was that hamfisted is somehow comforting, although I'm sure his trainers will learn from his mistakes and not pick anybody who's that big a doofus in the future.
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 07:21 AM
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34. You sound disappointed. nt
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 11:39 AM
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35. You obviously didn't read the last line of the post
I'm absolutely delighted that Islamic terror cells have been reduced to this level of incompetence after their wildly successful few years here and in Bali and Europe.

That was another reason most of us suspected a home grown goober: Islamic terrorists have been a lot more competent in the past.
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Biker13 Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 04:06 AM
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27. K&R
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 06:22 AM
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30. Same here
I thought it was an RW loony.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 07:17 AM
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32. I'm eating crow too
Have plenty if anyone is hungry
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