Thoughts about Times Square 'bomber.'

[elleng]

At least according to his bio presented on Rachel show, sounds to me that the accused's state of mind resulted from Wall Street debacle.

Comes from an educated Pakistani family. He earned college education in U.S., married, became father of 2, bought house in Conn., decent tech education and jobs, paying for house, at some point family economics deteriorated and family did, too. I suspect this caused/enabled him to become attached to 'bad guys' who would pay him.

This at least helps me understand why anyone would do such. Thoughts?

[Skittles]

1. the guy is a dirtbag terrorist

that's my thought

[lxlxlxl]

22. yep...quite easily

fuck these people...anyone who doesnt think foreign terrorism will drag this country right back into the right wing mania of the last admin is kidding themselves.

fuck islamic terrorism. they are not progressive people. they are conservative islamic psychos who dont even care about provoking massive warfare against their own people. their leader bin laden should be dead, and should have been killed years ago.

[BrklynLiberal]

2. ...but..but...the repukes really, really want it to be a real terrorist plot so they can blame Obama

Maybe the media will push this idea for the repukes.....Ya think so? I do.

Truth and facts never got in the way of their news stories before..why would it start now.

[ecstatic]

3. So he's like the IRS bomber

[riderinthestorm]

4. According to NPR, he voluntarily quit his job.

And THEN went into foreclosure.....

Did he become radicalized first? To the degree that he lost his desire for capitalism and the American "dream" (cough). Or did he lose his shit and then become radicalized?

I don't think any of that is clear....

[kgnu_fan]

5. Your thought is putting human face to this person and that is helpful

All these Bush era propaganda thinking is to dehumanize people who are "different" and especially if they were pushed to a desperate action. That is the ill of this country - we are trained by media to think in a "black and white" view of "other culture" and making people of foreign land as someone you do not understand.

At least to ponder about all the possible human situation is something we can afford to do at this moment.

[Common Sense Party]

6. I think you're trying to read into this something that isn't there, and trying

to find some sympathetic reason that would cause a person to do this.

Plus, by putting 'bomber' in quotation marks, you're trying to minimize the threat and import of what he was attempting to do, just as people who snicker about the "underwear bomber" are trying to dismiss attempted terrorism as something frivolous.

Sure, he was incompetent, but he still could have injured or even killed innocent people, and it was his desire and intent to do so. It wasn't the bad economy that drove him to that decision.

[MadMaddie]

7. The guy lost his home to foreclosure

This guy is also singing like a jail bird to the authorities
....I believe he wasn't as committed as he thought he was

I also think that he feels guilty.......

He is a criminal and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Now I have a question?

Besides the obvious that this kid went to Pakistan to get training?

What is the difference between this guy who lived a privileged life and say other rich kids in the country that commit heinous crimes? The Columbine kids Klebold and Harris.....too many others to count...?

[madmax]

13. Good point Maddie

Doesn't sound like he was raised a true believer.

It's all too early to speculate on anything. As I've learned from earlier reports from Mayor Bloomberg and others that this wasn't an international terrorist plot, etc. Reporting now he was trained in Pakistan...

We're going to know all - eventually.

[demosincebirth]

8. Yea, I guess thats a good excuse for attempting to kill hundreds

[MadMaddie]

15. Uh...not using foreclosure as a reason for creating a crime

but hell we live in America and people committ crimes for other crazy reasons.

Timothy McVeigh was mad at the U.S gov for a perceived wrong against Koresh....

[aquart]

9. Selfish, self-involved asshole.

I don't like Bush or the Iraq War. My life hasn't turned out to be a thing of perfection. I hate Wall Street with the special passion of one who once listened to their testimony in a jury room.

Yet, despite occasional outbursts of shrieking, I have not felt the overwhelming need to build a bomb and blow up total strangers IN THE THEATRE DISTRICT!

Spoiled brat has a college degree, wife, two kids, and enough money for international travel and to pay over a thousand dollars cash for a used car.

I don't want to revoke his citizenship. I want that American to spend every day of his worthless life on American soil in an American high security prison.

[snagglepuss]

17. Bang on. nt

[The_Casual_Observer]

10. I've had my ups & downs, but never considered blowing up

Times Square or anyplace else as a result. I just tried to do better next time.

[Bobbieo]

11. Thank God he was not a die-hard jihadist and apparently the 72 virgins

didn't turn him on.

[riderinthestorm]

12. Do we know that yet? I can't seem to point to anything specific @ his beliefs yet. nt

[JanusAscending]

14. Think about what you just said.

Do you know what a jihadist is? If he were really convinced what he was doing was justified, he would have not run away from the vehicle, and change his shirt so as not to be recognized. He would have stayed in the car and detonated the bomb. He wasn't the least interested in dying for"his cause" or the "72 virgins"!!! Just causing as much destruction and fear to as many Americans as possible 'cause he was a sniveling coward and deserves whatever he gets.

[snagglepuss]

18. How do you know that? nt

[MrsBrady]

16. my husband and I were talking about this earlier...

we wondered if it's possible that the "terrorist group" wanted him to try something to see if he was willing to actually prove that he was going to join whatever jihad or militant terrorist organization or whatever.
That he was actually on their side.
Kind of like the hard core gangs require you to steal or kill to prove that you have what it takes.
Maybe they do the same thing? Purely speculation on our part.

Keith Olbermann had an an expert on tonight and they were talking about this situation. They mentioned he's been a citizen for over a year now.
He apparently made A LOT of mistakes in this bombing effort. He may have attended or try to attend one of the terrorist schools in Pakistan.
Apparently he's squealing like a pig...giving up lots of info.

That's why my husband and I thought maybe that's what he was trying to do, "prove" that he wanted in the movement.

[JCMach1]

19. He won't be the last guy (from any background) that lashes out after losing the American dream

Only the 'Jihad' context is slightly different...

The blowback from the Bush economic damage to this country will be long and very bloody.

[lxlxlxl]

20. UGH. SO WHAT? TIMES SQ ISNT WALL ST...He's a nutbag psycho that would have energized the RW

ISLAMIC TERRORISM IS THE ENEMY OF REAL PROGRESSIVES.

fuck these self involved idiots

[woo me with science]

21. oh for pete's sake. nt