Ok, I'm still stumped: How did the Bushies convince Texans that they were actual Texans?

[Ardent15]

Seriously, one of the most patrician, elitist, blueblood Yankee families in American history spawned a man who became a Governor of Texas.

I can understand the wealthy voting for them. But the rest?

[sakabatou]

1. Fuck if I know.

[northoftheborder]

2. why Texans voted Bush as gov.

Because he learned to "talk Texas", dress "texas", act like a folksy man to have a beer with, (he was naturally unsophisticated and stupid), and because Texans have had very few Democratic governors. Ann Richards was the last one. Very Republican here, especially in East and West rural areas. There is hope, though; Perry is disliked by many Republicans, and has worn out his welcome. White (ex mayor of Houston) is pragmatic, appealing, and may win in November. He manages to not discuss anything progressive so I don't know how liberal he is. But anything is better than Perry, even Kay B. Hutchison would have been a big improvement.

[brewens]

3. That is the one thing I point out to people about Fahrenheit 911.

The interview with Bush when he brags about working on his dads campaign. He comes off as a smart alec, fast talking preppy boy. The whole Texan thing with the down home accent and swagger was all B.S. they taught him somehow.

[UTUSN]

4. B'cause his parents were BUSY, leaving the kids to kill frogs and sutff while they were AWAY!1 n/t

[Arctic Dave]

5. A lot of the peole I know that live in Texas aren't from Texas.

But they do love playng the windshield cowboy role. Maybe that was his connection to them. Don't know.

[ThoughtCriminal]

6. Being Rich?

:shrug:

[kskiska]

7. He lost his first election

because he still wore Bermuda shorts and loafers without socks.

Isn't it funny, though, how Jeb and his brothers, born in Texas, don't have that Texas twang, but Junior does, and he's from New Haven, CT.

[Ardent15]

16. Yeah, but Junior spent more time in Texas

Like at the "ranch" in Crawford.

....


:rofl:

[awoke_in_2003]

22. Don't forget all the time...

he spent driving oil companies into the ground (and getting bailed out by pappi's Saudi friends)

[Enrique]

8. when he ran for Congress, his opponent painted him as an outsider

an ivy league elitist, etc.

I think people started paying attention to him when his dad became president and he bought the Rangers and was I've heard kind of a public figure, on TV a lot for the baseball team.

[izquierdista]

9. By being pig-ignorant stupid

You know, a man of the people.

[troubledamerican]

19. Not all Texans are ignorant pigs, just a plurality.

[gulliver]

10. Texas is wall-to-wall phony cowboys.

You just wear something vaguely like a cowboy hat and something approximating cowboy boots. Instant Texan. None of them will even bat an eye. Don't mess with Texas, you know. You'll make the sequins fall off of their pretty pink boots.

[Ardent15]

18. I see

So it's like suburban people listening to bluegrass and country music, believing that makes them more "authentic"?

[tXr]

20. Just like everyone in blue states eats granola and drives a Prius?

[Touchdown]

27. Hey! Some of us mix it up with Sushi from time to time!

:hi:

[tXr]

29. I'm moving to Portland soon.

I can't wait!

:hi:

[emulatorloo]

55. I love my Sushi wrapped in Arugula - excellent when dipped in a Chai Latte

[gulliver]

37. I live in Missouri

We call ourselves the Show Me state, but that's just image. If you try to show us anything we don't like, we won't look.

[martymar64]

21. Watch that broad brush there, Hoss.

Not all Texans are alike. This is a big state, not like Missouri.

At least we aren't the state that spawned Rush Limbaugh or that cultural black hole known as Branson.

[tXr]

26. Hell, I lived in Texas for 30 years and hadn't seen people wearing cowboy duds since

the 'Urban Cowboy' fad became passe - and I lived in Pasa-gaw-dam-git-down-dena, which is now very Hispanic.

One is more likely to see a refinery worker in FRCs and hear Tejano music in my former neighborhood than see an urban cowboy decked out in a stetson and sporting 'pretty pink sequined boots'.

[gulliver]

33. It's pretty tasteless of you to bring up Limbaugh and Branson.

I prefer to dish it out, not take it. Maybe I shouldn't mess with Texas after all.

Actually, I was just in Branson (not by choice). I suggested we play a game where we would hit each other in the arm every time we saw a black person.

At least Branson has go karts, though, which is more than I can say for Texas (where I have friends). I had blocked out the fact that Limbaugh comes from my home state. Thanks.

[texastoast]

35. Do not think

We will ever let you forget. After all, region-bashing is a bigger sport on DU than progressivism these days.

[LanternWaste]

53. Less region-bashing, I think...

Less region-bashing I think, and more provincialism and a rigid, dogmatic style of thought.

[snooper2]

57. And this is coming from someone living in Missery

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[kentauros]

64. I Love that "Don't Mess with Texas"

anti-littering campaign :hi:

We also once had "Littering is unlAWFUL" :)

[arthritisR_US]

11. gullible, obtuse sheeple. n/t

[texastoast]

36. Your tent is not big enough for all of Texas

And please note that Texas has garnered 480,000 new out-of-state arrivals in just the last year.

Please, do not paint genuine Texans with your gullible, obtuse sheeple brush. It appears irrefutably small-minded of you.

[The Straight Story]

12. Like Hillary convinced people of New York she was a New Yorker

:hide: :rofl:

[BrklynLiberal]

13. LIE$, LIE$ and more LIE$.

[Newest Reality]

14. Maybe they subscribe to the logic:

If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, then ...

[rurallib]

15. Picking his nose at that Ranger's game

pure Texas:

[AnArmyVeteran]

63. That gets a person votes in Texas... (sigh)

[opihimoimoi]

17. The Power Broker in the NAME of CARL ROVE...Twas he that fed the flames of RULE by FOOL

If ya can Fool Enough peeps...ya got good odds even with a weak candidate.....

How to get weak candidates better odds...easy.... get it so the weakness is a positive,,,,

"You betcha you could drink beer with W Bush,,,its bess you corner him after he finishes clearing some brush on the Ranch"

"He caught some kinda bass or perch that was 7 lbs larger than the current record....."

"He's a golfer...jus like uncke Ed and the boys"

"He got C's in College,.....just like Unk Max n you & I...."

"He can't recollect jokes ,,,fumbles them....just like you and Aunty Connie"


hE CAN'T DO SHIT...JUST LIKE MOST OF US.....

[Texasgal]

23. REAL Texans

don't claim that carpetbagger.

[Caretha]

24. Funny thing

the Texans, like me, my mom, and her family 3rd & 4th generattion Texans called Bush a yankee. My mom is 86 yrs old, and a democrat thru & thru. She talks about Texas always voting democrat till Johnson shut down the airbase in the pandhandle, and it was all downhill here from there on out. (I got the TX dialect and talk down pat, although I was born & raised in Europe :) )

Now the funny thing, she & her family called Bush's family & those like them "carpet baggers". Sounds kinda like "tea baggers" don't it? Anyway, they are pretty much the same even if 100 yrs is seperating them.

George Bush is not a Texan! Nor is George Bush SR.! I think bug eyed tighty wads Barbara Sr. may have some Texan in her....but by Gawd, they Fuckin aren't Texan to the yellow dog democrats that settled these here parts.

[Touchdown]

25. They weren't paying attention. Dallas was on!

[no_hypocrisy]

28. Must've been one hell of a barbeque the Bushes threw.

[Ozymanithrax]

30. We are talking about Texas...

G. H. W. Bush moved to Texas and became a big oilman in Midland. There he ran for Senate, lost, and then Congressman, won. I think he just covered himself in black crude and wore a Stetson. This was back in the days when the party decided who ran. When a seat came open, they found a man who paid his dues and gave him a chance. But Bush's bussiness roots in Texas made him one of them.

[MagickMuffin]

31. The same way they convinced a Nation through Illusions !!!

They only "won" the election here in Texas through Election Fraud, just like they did on the National level.

As has been stated elsewhere in this thread, REAL Texans saw through the Illusions.

[Zorra]

32. Well, when you think about it, anyone that voted for Bu*h just ain't too bright. nt

[sonias]

40. Yep and that goes for anyone who voted for him for President

That would make a little more than half of the country "not to bright" right? And they did it twice to boot.

Look I'm from Texas and it's not like Bush' didn't have opposition, he did. But he had the big business money behind him, and he had the despicable Karl Rove doing negative campaigning. Negative campaigns work - people really want to hate the incumbent and they want to try something "new".

It's the same reason we are hopeful that we can get that equally fake Rick Perry off our backs.

[texastoast]

34. He never did

But there are old-family, social-climbing Texas whores whose God is money.

Just like every place else.

The real Texans called them carpetbagging Yanks. Which they are.

[Johonny]

38. Well how many Texans are actual Texans?

The states population is growing. The souths population as a whole increased after the 1970s as the end of segregation and wide use of air conditioning made places like Houston more attractive and livable. So I'm not sure how unTexan the Bush family is compared to the Texas population as a whole. His families movement tracks the population of the US as a whole just fine.

[sonias]

41. That's an excellent question

I would love to see a statistical look at that now. There are more and more people moving or immigrating to Texas each day. As texastoast pointed out further up the thread we know at least 480,000 people moved to Texas just last year. And with the economy still shaky in some parts of the country, more and more are moving to Texas this year.

I expect we'll get a lot of new people moving from Arizona to Texas too. So things will change in Texas and maybe a whole lot sooner than later.

But back to the political question - people are more likely to vote for someone who has lived in the state for a long time as Governor. People want the Governor to represent what they think their state is. For people that voted Bush in, they bought Bush veneer as real wood. Bush and his political team played a good modern campaign for that time.

It sucks - we payed for it in Texas and the whole country paid for it for eight years and the world is much, much worse off for it too.

[onenote]

56. "people are more likely to vote for someone who has lived in the state for a long time"

Well, bush lived in Texas from the time he was 2 years old until his high school years and then returned to Texas after college for a few years. He left again for a few years to go to grad school, but returned in the late 70s and lived in TX from that point through his election as governor in 1994, or roughly 20 more years.

Texas, it should be said, has a long history of electing native-born Texans as governor and to a certain extent, bush was an exception. But if you look at the governors of a lot of states, you'll find a lot of people who were born and raised in other states and didn't move to the state in which they were elected until they were out of college. To the extent that Texas is changing as people move there from elsewhere, the link between being a "true" Texan and getting elected will continue to attenuate.

[HopeHoops]

39. Because he, being a dumbfuck, had no trouble adopting dumbfuck-speak.

This is in no way to imply that all Texans are dumbfucks. I've spent a lot of time there on business and have known a LOT of native Texans who were intelligent and articulate. They also wouldn't be the ones who bought Dubya's Texahegian accent and they also couldn't stand the morons who did buy it. Perhaps the morons are a majority in Texas, but we've got our share of morons here in Pennsylvania. The state has gone blue recently but I still live in a very red county and the dumbfuckery is mind-numbing.

[ChickMagic]

42. As a 10th generation Texan

I always found him to be an obnoxious, idiot carpetbagger. And a Yankee to boot.

[HopeHoops]

43. Are you one of the intelligent articulate people I met there?

:hi:

Ref: post #39

And yes, "carpetbagger" is exactly what he is. Same with Cheney getting a P.O. box in what, Washington state? That was only because the President and Vice President can't be "from the same state". It would have been more honest for Dubya to admit he was from CT/ME. Wait, "more honest" doesn't work when there was no honesty to begin with. More of nothing is still nothing.

[ChickMagic]

44. I don't know if I met you

but I like to think I'm fairly articulate, even if I'm an Aggie. If I remember correctly, Cheney got a pretend address in Wyoming and later built a house there. I'm surprised he even bothered since they had no problem breaking laws, treaties and regulations. And, as head of the committee to find a vice president, he appointed himself.

Our family has come a long way. Here's my grandfather (with his prized banjo):

[HopeHoops]

45. Um, is that your kitten with the sniper rifle?

:rofl:

No seriously, I'm one of the people who joke a lot about Texas but mostly because Bush/Cheney claim to have been from there and people, for reasons beyond reason, voted for them. Still, I do try to make it known that I met a lot of people in Texas who were just as pissed off as I was and never bought the BushCo bullshit. Like I said (in post #39), I'm surrounded by dumbfucks now. That doesn't keep me from putting up my signs! Speaking of which:

In October 2004, I made 10 signs, wooden plaques on wooden posts, and used a woodburner to write all 10 Amendments from the Bill Of Rights on them. They were in the yard through the election. I got a lot of positive comments on them from both Democrats and Republicans. The far right fringe may be loud, but they don't represent the whole of the Republican party.

[Flying Dream Blues]

46. Not sure Cheney claims to be from Texas...please...one spawn of

Satan is enough to have to claim...

[ThomThom]

49. He just happened to be residing and voting there as CEO of

Halliburton. The Constitution does not allow Pres and VP to come from same state. I guess this one was too obvious so they dealt with it. The more laws they broke the easier it was to violate more.

[ChickMagic]

54. I wish it was my kitten - he's a cutie and dangerous as hell!

That is a super awesome idea about the signs. I might just copy you. It reminds me of Penn Jillette who carries a metal copy of the bill of rights in his pocket going through the metal detector.

I saw how that little prat acted during his run for Congress in Midland/Odessa. He didn't look or sound Texan then. When he ran for governor, he had adopted Texan as his second language and it showed. I loved Ann Richards and Rove started a rumor that she was a regular cocaine user. That brought her down and I've hated them all ever since.

While he was governor, by the way, he spent most of his time running and playing Nintendo, turning over most, if not all, responsibility to the Lt. Governor. (Governor is a rather weak position here anyway). When he ran for president, Texas A&M had that really bad bonfire avalanche killing, I think, 12 kids. He did not come back to Texas for that wake.

God help me, but I fucking hate that prick.

[tom_paine]

47. Because the RW Authoritarian Mind is very compartmentalized and gullible.

http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/

It also (and there are exceptions to every generalization, people are more complex than that, but this goes for most RW Authoritarians, certainly most of them I have ever met) means that RW Authoritarians don't need things to make sense, just so THE PARTY tells them it is so.

And if what THE PARTY tells them contradicts the Party Pravda they were told before, it doesn;t matter because they don't see it, let alone consider it, due to the unquestioning ansd obedint nature of the Authoritarian Mind.

The decision to bring the Bushies on board, then unify with the KKK/Dixiecrat elemnets to form a virulent Nazi-like combination of National Security/Intelligence, along with the Corporations and the KKK/RW Authoritarians that serve as their brutal footsoldiers, was made att he top.

And RW Authoritarians NEVER question authority of THEIR PARTY.

End of story. It was simple, really, for the Busho-Aristocrats to sell it to the most gullible and unqeustioningly obedient segment of American Society.

[ThomThom]

48. He was completely created, planned and executed to the end.

His father of the same name was President and a bunch of wealthy businessmen got together and bought him. They gave him ownership in the Texas Rangers baseball team and went from there.

[w8liftinglady]

50. Remember-"Urban Cowboy" came out around that time

If John Travolta can be a cowboy,Bush can.Texans aren't the sharpest tacks in the box(I live here-I can say it)

[texastoast]

61. Born here? n/t

[Taverner]

51. The drawl, the ranch, the conservatism

It all fit - I still think of him as a Texan

[texastoast]

60. He's a Rexall

Drugstore cowboy. And I'm sure you have heard, "All hat and no cattle."

We wink a lot at each other when those folks move here.

[JNelson6563]

52. Because they fit right in?

For bob's sake the people of Texas elected that idiot Governor! Seems to me Texas went beyond "accepting" them!

[texastoast]

59. Didn't read the Texans' posts here, I guess

Most real Texans do not go to prep schools.

No, he didn't fit in, except with some old money.

[merkins]

68. Didn't fit in?

In 1998, Bush won re-election with a record 69% of the vote. He became the first governor in Texas history to be elected to two consecutive four-year terms.

I'd say Texas stated emphatically he fit right in.

[texastoast]

69. I don't think you will understand unless you are from here

We are a tolerant people. The state's motto is friendship. And although you quote a high percentage of votes, please know that many, many of those were cast from people who are not from here and who bought into the Texas mythic image. Bush hornswoggled them (and some stupid native Texans). That, combined with a pretty worthless state Democratic party, allowed very organized pukes to hornswoggle the whole nation.

So did Bush fit right into the nation? Twice?

[JNelson6563]

71. Intellectual dishonesty, ur doin' it right.

Both times Little Boots "won" the WH were highly questionable. As in he really didn't win, at least not the first time.

A far cry from a 69% win in Texas.

What I find amusing is that while, yes, there are some great people in/from Texas, why is it so hard for many of you to accept that a lot of assholes (69%?) are in Texas. Yes, every state has 'em, but some more than others. Molly Ivins built a stellar career reporting/writing about the lunacy and corruption in Texas politics and, I dare say, they are nearly peerless.

Julie

[JNelson6563]

70. I guess that's rejection...Texas style!

Oy.

[kentauros]

65. You say 'for "BoB's sake'...

You do know that The Church of the SubGenius was started in Texas, right? ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Stang

[Jennicut]

58. Who knows? Just glad they left Connecticut. Now if only we can get rid of Glenn Beck.

And Joe Lieberman.

[Name removed]

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[texastoast]

66. We are stupid?

And we are the world's 11th largest economy? How can we be so stupid?

[old mark]

67. They brought lots of money.....nt