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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 09:34 PM
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Gallup: 2 million Americans went from unemployed/underemployed to fully employed in April



More than 2 million Americans became fully employed in April, as Gallup's "underemployment" rate fell 1.4 points to 18.9% -- the lowest level for this new measure since Gallup began tracking it in December 2009. While part of this improvement is the result of the normal pickup in hiring at this time of year -- and the addition of temporary census workers -- it is good news both for those becoming fully employed and for the economy as a whole.
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Full article here:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/127631/Gallup-Underemployment-Falls-April.aspx

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 09:37 PM
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1. thanks......
I'll take this and keep on truckin' on! :)
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chollybocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 09:40 PM
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2. 'But it's all those Census Workers!'
:eyes:
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 09:41 PM
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3. LOL.... didn't take long for someone to unrec good news

Seriously... what possibly American could be against improved employment numbers?


One that wants this country to fail, that's who.


Is that you, Rush?
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 10:26 PM
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28. I unRec'd it. It's a poll, not actual employment statistics
FFS I could poll 20,000 Americans about their weight and have 3/4 of them say they'd lost some.

Then we could declare a Victory in Teh War on Obesity !!

:eyes:
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 06:29 AM
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40. No it's me.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 09:42 PM
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4. These aren't official statistics. It's a voluntary poll
:eyes:
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 09:43 PM
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6. +1,000
If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

It's just horrible out here, and I am doing a regional rather than local job search.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 09:47 PM
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8. -1001, its a 30 day report based on 20000 interviews and reliably follows official trends.
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Dr Morbius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 10:06 PM
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13. +1002, So what?
It can't be described as bad news, so it is necessary to debunk it?

One could argue about how much it means, but it is unquestionably good news, and there's no reason to expect the "official" results to be terribly different.

Here's the deal: as it turns out, yes, we could. And we still can. And some folks can't stand that.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 10:11 PM
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15. Weighing the evidence : the report vs your opinion of it, the report carries a lot more weight
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 10:15 PM
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19. It's propaganda.
There isn't a shred of evidence whatsoever the job market is improving.

But you actually have to be in the sinking job market to appreciate it.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 01:07 AM
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36. We can do what, exactly?
Match the employment growth of 2004? You know, that stellar year in the middle of a decade in which NOT ONE SINGLE NEW JOB was created, with a population growth of 25 million.
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 10:13 PM
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17. Oh sure. I will believe it when I see it.
I am out here in the real fucking world doing a REGIONAL job search and it is damned near impossible to find any fucking thing at all.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 10:16 PM
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20. those 2 million people who are now employed also belong in the real world.
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 10:18 PM
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23. And 15 fucking MILLION people are without work
Take your cheerleading elsewhere.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 10:20 PM
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24. maybe if you changed your attitude you'd find a job.
Edited on Wed May-05-10 10:21 PM by KittyWampus
edit- coming from you, I'll take "cheerleader" as a compliment.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 10:20 PM
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25. Wow you put the word million in all caps, you must mean serious business.
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 10:35 PM
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30. I'm sure they have better attitudes to.
lol. I'm having flashbacks of the nasty conservatism of the reagan years. Yuk.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 11:28 PM
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32. Part of the problem. Reagan Democrats 'came home' but brought Reagan
with them.
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 11:55 PM
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34. That's ok, I have a handy link for them when they get out of hand.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 12:45 AM
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35. Heh! nt
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 09:43 PM
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5. Long-Term Unemployment: 80 Percent Of People Jobless Last Summer Still Out Of Work
Just one in five people who were out of work last summer have found jobs since then.

Of more than a thousand unemployed people surveyed by Rutgers University researchers last August, just 21 percent had landed a job by March, a followup survey reveals. Two-thirds remained "unemployed" according to the government's definition -- the rest gave up looking for work altogether, either going to school or retiring early.
"It's a pretty grim study," said Cliff Zukin, one of the authors of the report at the John J. Heldrich Center for Workforce Development at Rutgers.

Of the people who found work, only 13 percent found full-time jobs, and 61 percent said their new gig was just "something to get you by while you look for something better."

Seventy percent have been looking for work for longer than six months, the survey found -- up from 48 percent in the summer. (In March, the number of people out of work for that length of time increased by 414,000 month to 6.5 million, representing 44.1 percent of all unemployed.)

To cope, 70 percent dipped into retirement funds, 56 percent borrowed money from family or friends and 45 percent turned to credit cards. Forty-two percent skimped on medical care, 20 percent moved in with family or friends and 18 percent visited a soup kitchen.
"The cushion's completely gone," said Zukin. "I think we're looking at more cutting the core... It's a much deeper economic gash this time."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20100504/cm_huffpost/562493
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 09:49 PM
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9. Considering no one claimed the jobs turn around started until recently, that doesn't mean shit.
Edited on Wed May-05-10 09:49 PM by phleshdef
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 09:57 PM
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11. I didn't say anybody did. nt
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 09:59 PM
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12. Then what is relevant about looking at job growth a year in the past?
The whole point of the more optimistic among us is it seems we are starting to see a resurgence in job growth NOW.
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 10:12 PM
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16. WHERE? Dream on.
It's HORRIBLE out here.

I have never seen it this bad.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 10:15 PM
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18. Just because it hasn't caught up enough for you to notice it doesn't mean its not happening.
The country is a lot bigger than the part you personally experience in your day to day life.
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 10:16 PM
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21. I call bullshit on it. I KNOW, you don't.
I don't believe every fucking thing I read because I have everything invested in Obama.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 10:21 PM
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26. Translation: You don't believe anything you read if it confirms others' investment in Obama.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 10:21 PM
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27. dupe. delete.
Edited on Wed May-05-10 10:22 PM by phleshdef
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 10:28 PM
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29. Actually those people can't find work today.
The people in the article have been unemployed since last summer and are still unemployed TODAY and the number of them is increasing dramatically.

I know they are something the "look on the bright side" folks would like to ignore especially with midterms coming up but that's not going to happen.

In order to get most people back to work and provide jobs for the 120,000 or so every month entering the workforce we need to create 10 million jobs in the next few years.

Keep that in mind when the unemployment number stays at 9.7 for last month. That and wall street seems to be doing just fine without bringing back any jobs. It's simpler that way for them.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 11:30 PM
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33. I would guess some who would like to ignore this have jobs. nt
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 09:45 PM
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7. But weren't they all at the Apple Store?
:P
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 09:53 PM
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10. Some serious fail in this thread
A little of this

...and a little of that
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 10:17 PM
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22. Yeah, by the Pollyannas who have their heads up their rears. n/t
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 10:06 PM
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14. Wow! You'd think this would be front page news. Don't you just love DU's..
unrec'ing crew?
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 11:21 PM
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31. Rec'd. Some of the people in this thread.... Lord have mercy...
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 01:23 AM
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37. BLS stats for april don't come out until friday. but i doubt your story based on march:
Edited on Thu May-06-10 01:24 AM by Hannah Bell
THE EMPLOYMENT SITUATION -- MARCH 2010


-- Nonfarm payroll employment increased by 162,000

-- unemployment held at 9.7 percent

-- Temporary help services (+40,000) and health care (+27,000) continued to add jobs

-- Employment in federal government also rose, reflecting the hiring of temporary
workers for Census 2010.

-- Employment continued to decline in financial activities (-21,000) and in information (-12,000).

Household Survey Data

-- the number of unemployed persons was little changed at 15.0 million,
and the unemployment rate remained at 9.7 percent.

-- The number of long-term unemployed (those jobless for 27 weeks and over) in-
creased by 414,000 over the month to 6.5 million.

-- 44.1 percent of unemployed persons were jobless for 27 weeks or more.

-- The civilian labor force participation rate (64.9 percent) and the employment-
population ratio (58.6 percent) continued to edge up in March.

-- The number of persons working part time for economic reasons (sometimes re-
ferred to as involuntary part-time workers) increased to 9.1 million in March.

-- About 2.3 million persons were marginally attached to the labor force in March,
compared with 2.1 million a year earlier. These individuals were not in the labor force, wanted and were available for work, and had looked for a job sometime in the prior 12 months. They were not counted as unemployed because they had not searched for work in the 4 weeks preceding the survey.

-- Among the marginally attached, there were 1.0 million discouraged workers in
March, up by 309,000 from a year earlier.

-- Discouraged workers are persons not currently looking for work because they be-
lieve no jobs are available for them.

-- The remaining 1.3 million persons marginally attached to the labor force had not searched for work in the 4 weeks preceding the survey for reasons such as school attendance or family responsibilities. (See table A-16.)


http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm.


Based on March data, I don't buy that 2 million people got jobs in april. That would be a pretty big leap in a month.




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onestepforward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 01:44 AM
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38. Thanks!
Even if a small number of people get a job, it's a big deal for them. :)
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 01:52 AM
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39. I got a job in April.
But have been going through my background check for over two weeks and have yet to start. Was supposed to start this week but it hasn't come back yet. I guess that is what happens when you outsource background checks.
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