Good riddance Gordon Brown.

[TheBigotBasher]

I trust that this will see New Labour disappear in to history. They could never be called progressive, never mind socialist. There was nothing Labour about New Labour.

I look forward to the civil war to come in the Labour Party and that it may one day recover some element of what it once stood for.

I hope that the deaths of the thousands of children, their parents, their families and of course the deaths of soldiers needlessly sent to an illegal war pray on the minds of every New Labour politician until their death and then beyond. Like history remembers with disgust the people who led Nations to previous war crimes, I hope they are remembered in the same way.

I am glad that a horrible era for Labour, the United Kingdom and indeed the World is over. The end of New Labour is another nail in the coffin of Neo-Con international politics.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

1. Labour should get clause 4 back

Tory Blair ruined the Labour Party.

[Nye Bevan]

4. Actually, Tony Blair made Labour electable

If they hadn't dumped Clause 4 and got rid of the unilateral nuclear disarmament policy they would never have come out of the wilderness. Neil Kinnock was a good politician but couldn't even come close to beating Margaret Thatcher with the Labour policies he was stuck with.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

6. well it served a purpose (old days) but now we need it back

Labour has to re-model

[TheBigotBasher]

7. Agreed

but the relationship with Bush became something disastrous. Britain did not just enter in to an illegal War, they sold it to the US Congress.

Hundreds of years of legal precedent, which essentially were the foundations of the "unwritten" British constitution were torn up. The UK now has people under house arrest. Bank account details are cross matched with tax and social security records. Double jeopardy was abolished. Habeas Corpus was abolished. There were three attempts at passing an enabling act that would have allowed a minister or a person of their choosing to abolish any law on the statute books. Britain participated in and encouraged torture.

New Labour was a horrible creation.

[Nye Bevan]

8. Britain needs a written constitution

Under the current system, a Government that commands a good sized Parliamentary majority has way too much power.

[TheBigotBasher]

9. It has worked well before without one,

If the Lib Dems can stop the Conservatives repealing the Human Rights Act, which makes no real difference in law because it is enshrined in European treaties but encourage them to pass their promised Bill of Rights in addition, the UK may go some way to restore all of the rights lost under the period of the Neo Con fake "War on Terror".

[Nye Bevan]

11. The amount of power Mrs Thatcher had was very scary.

Way, way more power than a US President could ever hope to have. And she certainly abused this power. Fortunately, not as much as she could have done.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

2. Hopefully, Labour will find it's way out of the Third Way. K&R

[gateley]

3. You could substitute "Republicans" for "Labour". nt

[TheBigotBasher]

5. Hence me calling them Neo Con Labour.

I really hope a Liberal Democrat gets to control the final stages of the Iraq war inquiry. Maybe we could get some criminal prosecutions.

[snagglepuss]

10. Who do you want to see replace Brown and what is your opinion on

Harriet Harmon?

[TheBigotBasher]

12. Hatty Hairperson is a brain dead lunatic.

As for who takes over Labour - no one who associates with Labour as of now ie no links to Mandlescum.

[snagglepuss]

13. That is my impression of her but she seems to a lot of sway in Labour.

What's her chances of taking Brown's place?