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one_voice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 04:40 PM
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Oh, for Christ's sake....
Just when you think it can't get any more bizarre...



Harry Jackson's Religious Test: Kagan Must Be Defeated Because She Is Not a Protestant


We are not supposed to have religious tests for public office in the United States, but apparently reverse religious test are okay. How else do you explain Harry Jackson declaring that Elena Kagan's nomination to the Supreme Court must be defeated specifically because she is not a Protestant, claiming that a Court made up only of Catholics and Jews is fundamentally unable to "create an atmosphere for true justice":

The nomination of Elena Kagan for Supreme Court should outrage evangelical Protestants. The reason is not simply her legal perspective, her lack of judicial experience, or her personal view of faith and religious liberties. Devout Christians of all denominations and races are in danger of experiencing what blacks in the late 1960s and early 1970s called “institutional racism” or “institutional discrimination.” Blacks of that era saw that there was a pervasive attitude that prevented black achievement among the national leadership, who ran many of our nation’s most influential institutions. Civil rights laws had been enacted but the effect of those laws was nullified by the personal prejudices of high-ranking gatekeepers - everyone from judges to CEOs, policeman to professors, and other individuals who exercised personal power over our lives.

Many evangelicals and other Protestants felt like they woke up and discovered they were suddenly deemed the “bad guys” by many segments of our society. The cultural swing by a militant anti-faith minority is certainly not Elena Kagan or President Obama’s fault. Nonetheless, the composition of America’s highest court will determine our national spirit, values, and destiny. Therefore, the faith of the prospective judicial candidate matters.

...

Although Catholics are well represented on the Supreme Court, there will likely be important cases that will need the insight of unbiased evangelicals to create an atmosphere for true justice. Failure of the faith community to engage in the world of politics and processes like the selection of judges could hurt the Christian community decades from now.

Protestants must take action today! We should return to the foundations that have made the US great. Further, we must not just act on behalf of our needs, alone. We must lead the country back to the safety of its guiding principles. At the same time, despite our personal views, we must act on behalf of the entire American family – religious and secular alike. Further, we must continue to encourage religious diversity and even atheists to remain true to their beliefs as it relates to the political process. The repression of minority points of view is un-American and petty.

Therefore, let your senators know that you want them to stand up for the rights of the American faith community. Specifically, your senators must be urged to stand against the appointment of Elena Kagan. A failure to act at this critical juncture will be tantamount to surrendering to the enemies of faith and personal freedom.


http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/harry-jacksons-religious-test-kagan-must-be-defeated-because-she-not-protestant



The bandwagon jumping begins...


Nomination the "Latest Step Toward the Moral Abyss for America"


It was just earlier today that I was noting that Matt Barber was using the arrest of Dale Mcalpine to try and terrify Christians into thinking that they are about to be rounded up and imprisoned here in the United States.

Now, Rick Scarborough of Vision America has sent out an new email alert, also making the same claim, but using it to generate opposition to Elena Kagan:



On October 22, 2009 Hate Crimes protection was extended to sexual orientation by the Senate and sent to the President's desk to be signed shortly thereafter.

On April 20, 2010, police arrested Dale McAlpine, a 42-year-old Baptist street preacher in Britain for telling a passerby -- in earshot of a policewoman -- that God views homosexuality as a sin. Under Britain's Public Order Act 1986, which forbids "using threatening, abusive or insulting words ... tending to and causing harassment, alarm or distress," he will face a criminal trial at a date yet to be determined. McAlpine was fingerprinted, given a DNA swab and retina scan, and was locked in a police cell for seven hours.

The law was in place for 24 years before it was applied to a preacher of the Gospel, but now, in Great Britain, you can go to jail for agreeing with the Holy Bible on homosexuality. And you can rest assured America is on a collision course with the same tragic conclusion.

The appointment of Elena Kagan is the latest step toward the moral abyss for America. As the President's latest pick for the Supreme Court, this judicial neophyte is a doctrinaire radical leftist with a written disdain for the Constitution of the United States, the very document which she will be sworn to uphold if approved by the Senate, an almost fore drawn conclusion unless enough God fearing Americans raise their voices and demand that she be withdrawn.

...

The real losers are not the preachers who will go to jail, for they shall find God's presence there and be rewarded in this and the next life. The real losers are those caught up in a sin that our Government forbids us to tell the truth about, without being threatened with arrest.

Can't happen here? Just ask Rev. Dale McAlpine of Great Britain.

Till they come for me, I am going to continue to announce the truth and pray for revival in America.

Scarborough urges activist to sign up to blast fax "ALL 100 Senators for just $99" to urge them to oppose Kagan.

Gordon Klingenschmitt is offering the same service for only $38.


http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/scarborough-kagan-nomination-latest-step-toward-moral-abyss-america





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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 04:41 PM
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1. Can we have a non-religious candidate please? nt
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 04:42 PM
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2. I knew it would happen, but didn't figure it would so soon
They hate her because she's Jewish.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 04:43 PM
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3. Every biased nutcase in the country can now get their own 15-minutes of TV fame
In times past, they would have been heard only by their local radio, from personal appearances in their own town and the occasional letter to the editor..

Now, all they have to do is to make an outrageous statement, post it on you tube or have some bloggers "get right on it", and before they know it, CNN/FOX/MSNBC is calling them & asking them to be an "expert commentator" on some panel.

Crackpot-elevation is rampant these days.
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tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 04:45 PM
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4. Yeah right...
could you imagine if Obama tried to nominate an Athiest? I think Kathleen Parker tried to float this nonsense as well.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 04:46 PM
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5. Screw that. I don't want *any* religious people on the SC n/t
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 04:47 PM
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6. Well, as a religious person, Kagan's obviously a terrorist
Or so it's being argued right here at DU.
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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 04:47 PM
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7. How come we didn't hear this crap when Scalia was nominated?
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 04:48 PM
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8. "important cases that will need the insight of unbiased evangelicals"
Edited on Wed May-12-10 04:49 PM by rurallib
:wtf: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

gimme what he is drinking
on second thought - cancel that.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 05:00 PM
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9. Did he mess his pants when republicans nominated ALL those
Catholics.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 05:36 PM
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10. For fair balance, we need a Muslim...is that what they mean?
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 05:42 PM
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11. Resommended....
This has to be really pissing off those right wing evangelicals that feel as if they are under the thumb of the Judeo-Christian coalition of Catholic and Jew...

How ridiculous in this day and age.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 05:45 PM
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12. Well, in spite of himself, the asshat does raise a valid point
If Kagan is confirmed, there will be 6 Catholics and 3 Jews on a court which is supposed to represent all Americans. Even Jewish DU'ers have noted that this is far above a proportional representation of their faith (certainly nowhere near 1/3 of the population) and though I haven't seen any Catholic DU'ers specifically address this issue, I'm sure they would also agree that 2/3 of the US population is not Catholic. (the 6th Catholic, Sotomayor, was also an Obama nominee)

Now obviously, being Catholic or Jewish shouldn't exclude anyone from nomination, but it shouldn't be a prerequisite either. And one could certainly get that impression by looking at the numbers, whether that was the intention of the nominating Presidents or not.
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 06:12 PM
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14. The emphasis on education is quite intense in both Catholic
and Jewish cultures. Could this be part of the reason?
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 06:24 PM
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16. Well, since you brought Education into it....
The fact that all 9 (including Kagan) are either Harvard or Yale graduates also should be an issue. Not that there's anything necessarily wrong with those schools (aside from Skull & Bones and accepting "legacy" dunces like Chimpy, but that's entirely another thread) but again, two "Ivy League" schools are not representative of the entire country.

There are some damn good schools on the West Coast. And other parts of the country too, but I mentioned the West Coast specifically because they seem to think we don't exist over here when it comes to these nominations.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 06:11 PM
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13. Hey, most of those Catholics have been appointed by GOP presidents.
And they've been supported by the religious right.

Seems like the worried Protestants are being hoist on their own petard.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 06:13 PM
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15. I'd just prefer a world where a candidate's religion or lack thereof didn't matter
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