On Joy Behar, whack job Pam Geller spouting off her opposition to a mosque

[muntrv]

near ground zero, saying it promotes "jihadism" and that "it's insensitive to the victims to put a mosque near ground zero." She also denies that Muslims were killed in the 9/11 attacks.

[ck4829]

1. I wonder what this nutjob has to say about Michele Bachmann's friend

Saying that there are Muslims who want to execute gays, and that they're putting us to shame.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8419976

Silence from her, wonder why.

[katzenjammers]

2. I'm confused, are you saying Muslims (and Xians and Jews and bla bla) do NOT

think we gays should be executed? EVERY "major" religion holds that view. Even the ones that don't say it explicitly out loud maintain the position. Maybe I missed the point of the post, but I despise every so-called mainstream religion because their existence foments and feeds on bigotry and hatred of the "others."

Bah.
:puke:

[Scurrilous]

3. I can remember when she posted at littlegreenfootballs...

...she had the 'n00k mekka' fanboys all hot & bothered.

The owner of LGF eventually gave her the boot for being a racist whackjob.

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[riderinthestorm]

5. I don't want to see a mosque there either.

But not for the reasons that Pam Geller or Joy Behar may put out there.

I believe a multi-cultural, multi-faith (and no-faith at all) center devoted to peace would be a much greater contribution than another religious shrine. Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Hindu, Buddhism, etc. etc. - all would be welcome to come and meditate, see photos, leave notes or memorials - whatever.

Having a single religion claim that place, a central, highly public place, near such a culturally significant area such as the World Trade Tower calamity that had such global implications is dead wrong, imho. It's the absolute worst message to send on many levels.

[burnsei sensei]

6. An excellent idea.

nt

[Beacool]

7. I don't know who that woman is, but I'm not sure that a mosque there is a great idea either.

Feelings are still raw and many people here feel that it's a slap in the face to have them near Ground Zero. Why not choose another location?

My town lost more people than any other town in NJ and I was at the North Tower that morning. I saw enough people die that day to last me a lifetime. I have very mixed feelings about the whole thing.

Would it be appropriate for the Germans to build a cultural center at Auschwitz or the Japanese at Pearl Harbor?

:(

[Dappleganger]

14. Last time I checked, German isn't a religion.

Those who are against a mosque legally building a place of worship have misplaced feelings of anger which need to be addressed.

[Beacool]

15. I never said that German was a religion, but the analogy is valid.

Most of the family of the survivors don't want the mosque and its cultural center built at the site.

[U4ikLefty]

17. Why don't they want it there? Because of bigotry?

I say yes.

[Dappleganger]

19. Exactly.

Misplaced anger fueled by bigotry.

[miscsoc]

26. what about the family of the muslims who were burned alive by al qaeda

aren't they human?

[Whisp]

22. I am quite shocked at some of the responses here being against the mosque.

misplaced indeed,

*scratches head.

wtf?

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[KamaAina]

31. Funny you should mention Pearl Harbor

Visitors to the Arizona Memorial are about equally divided between Americans and Japanese.

Neither are there celebrating.

[tammywammy]

8. I'm not against it

"Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, a leader of the Cordoba Initiative, said he has been surprised by the vitriolic debate, since he has led his congregation ten blocks north of the World Trade Center for the past 27 years. His mosque lost several members on 9/11 and distributed bottled water to firefighters afterward.

Rauf said he plans to meet with the 9/11 family members who do not support the Cordoba House.

Rauf said emphatically that the center was “not a mosque. Though it will contain space for up to 2,000 Muslims to pray, it will also host many athletic and cultural events, possibly including the Tribeca Film Festival, he said. The Cordoba House may also include a memorial to those killed on 9/11.

“We want to rebuild this community,” Rauf said. “This is about the vast majority of moderate Muslims who want to be part of the solution.”"
Read more: http://dnainfo.com/20100520/manhattan/politicians-rally-against-tea-party-bashing-of-world-trade-center-mosque#ixzz0p5qQ2O9l


The group has no ties to any radical/extreme groups. I've read it's to be more like a Y with multicultural/secular events. I also like that they're thinking about including a memorial to 9/11, which is quite appropriate considering the congregation lost members in the terrorist attacks as well.

[muntrv]

9. I agree. It was Al-Qaeda, not American Muslims, who destroyed WTC.

[riderinthestorm]

20. Thanks for the link but everyone seems to be in agreement it is a mosque

containing enough space for 2000 Muslims to pray....

5 times/day.

That's a pretty singularly devoted, large amount of space (in Manhattan!) devoted to Islam.

I believe that if the city of NY is going to allow a group to try to create a "healing" space, a multicultural space, an interfaith (or no faith at all) space, then one single religion shouldn't be the focus. And it seems as though this is the premise behind this building.

I'd far prefer that this space had no religious orientation at all. A community center with a quiet room, a memorial to 9/11, plus the secular/multicultural events would be welcome imho.

[tammywammy]

21. Even if it is a mosque I still wouldn't be against it n/t

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[tammywammy]

12. Do you have a link for that?

That's not mentioned in any of the articles I've read.

[prolesunited]

18. I highly doubt this is true

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

27. A che serve una bella donna, se è brutta dentro?

[JI7]

11. is that the dumbass who got into it with Ron Reagan Jr

[ShortnFiery]

13. That's what you get for watching media trash such as that with Joy Behar.

:evilgrin: <teasing>

[provis99]

16. Pam Geller, looniest blogger ever:

http://www.loonwatch.com/2009/08/pamela-geller-the-looniest-blogger-ever/

[Scurrilous]

23. Yep.

:thumbsup:

[miscsoc]

24. loads of muslims died on that day

http://islam.about.com/blvictims.htm

disproportionate to the muslim population of the u.s.

to prohibit a mosque near the place where these muslims were murdered is despicable

[pinboy3niner]

28. INCLUDING members of the congregation that wants this mosque

See tammywammy's Post #10.

[KamaAina]

29. Surprise! It's not a mosque!

From post #10:

Rauf said emphatically that the center was “not a mosque. Though it will contain space for up to 2,000 Muslims to pray, it will also host many athletic and cultural events, possibly including the Tribeca Film Festival, he said. The Cordoba House may also include a memorial to those killed on 9/11.

Oh noes! Now what are all the jingoistic xenophobes supposed to poutrage about? :shrug:

[arbusto_baboso]

30. Pam Geller and her ilk promote Crusades.

And we know how well the last round of Crusades turned out for us.

What a fucking hatemongering dipshit.

[Canuckistanian]

32. Yeah, just like Cathoilic churches promote "Inquisitionism"

Why, they even have schools!