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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 09:52 PM
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Change in BOP video - one of the holes is partially blockec
did they do the junk shot yet?
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 09:53 PM
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1. Yes. They started top kill 2.0 w/ junk (junk mixed w/ drilling mud) at around 6PM EST.
Edited on Thu May-27-10 09:53 PM by Statistical
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 09:54 PM
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2. It's back to spewing again, but for a few minutes it stopped
so I guess... oh wait it's stopping again...
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 09:56 PM
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3. Where Are You Watching This?? n/t
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 09:58 PM
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8. here
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 09:58 PM
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9. link
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 10:00 PM
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11. Thanks To BOTH OF YOU.... n/t
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 10:01 PM
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13. Or you can go to
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 09:56 PM
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4. That's a zoomed in view of only one of the spots on the BOP.....

I saw that too.... one of the 3 holes in one section of the BOP stopped gushing.


There are other gushers on other parts of the BOP that are currently out of our view.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 09:58 PM
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7. Thanks, I couldn't get oriented
Every time the scene changed I wasn't watching to see landmarks

It's back to the panned out view
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Mythbuster Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 09:56 PM
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5. Looks like something foreign that was injected.
Maybe this is a good sign. At the same time, as the riser holes fill in, more pressure will be generated at the stress point.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 09:59 PM
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10. More importantly more pressure will be directed down the well.
The first kill short "worked" in a temporary fashion. It slowed oil but most of the mud flowed out the BOP instead of down the well.
If the junk can increase the portion going down the well they can build more pressure against the flow of oil.
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Mythbuster Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 10:01 PM
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12. Great point!
Now if the damaged riser can sustain the added pressure, mud flow will surely increase down the hole instead of out the riser.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 10:18 PM
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20. Or at least that is the plan.
Really comes down to how much of the junk catches and how much back pressure that starts creating.

Like a snowball going down a hill if you can get first couple pieces to catch you create spots for more junk to catch which slows flow and allows more junk to catch, etc. Getting that first piece to fall into the right spot though is like a game of Pachinko except the balls are under tens of thousands of psi of pressure.

So lot of luck is involved and a lot of unknown variables. Still hopefully the BP engineers will see the pressure slowly rise as the top of the BOP is increasingly blocked.
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Mythbuster Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 10:30 PM
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29. Should be noticable on the plume as well.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 09:56 PM
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6. I just noticed that too.
Seems like junk would be the only reason for that. It closed again just now.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 10:03 PM
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14. Course I suppose it could also just be a rock from the bottom, too?
I mean, why shouldn't there be debris from the well hole coming up too?
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 10:07 PM
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15. i'm looking at the BP stream, can someone explain what i'm seeing?
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 10:10 PM
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16. I'm Not Sure What I'm Looking For... Nothing Seems To Change...
same picture over and over.
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Mythbuster Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 10:15 PM
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18. Look at the split on the right side.
At the front of the split, there is now a small black protrusion... looks kinda like rubber. I was thinking it may be part of the junk shot, or may be a part of the casing seal that they think is blown.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 10:11 PM
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17. Compare this photo to the current video
notice that just off center to the right there's a stream that is missing in the video but that is there in the photo from earlier

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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 10:15 PM
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19. So That Means Something Has Been Plugged Or Slowed Down...
Am I correct? I'm NO GEEK, just want to know what's going on! Heard about Markey putting up the live feed from his office or something earlier today.

Just curious.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 10:18 PM
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21. It appears that something is blocking that one tiny hole, yes
the Junk Shot that they're attempting involves shotting a bunch of "stuff" down the pipes in the hopes that some of it will block some of these holes, maybe one just did?

:shrug:

Just another layperson spectator with more than enough WAGs
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 10:20 PM
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22. Thanks Again... n/t
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 10:21 PM
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23. Now you can see it starting to leak again, a lighter fluid
not lighter fluid, but a lighter color fluid... intermittantly
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 10:31 PM
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30. CNNs video on the right shows less flow every few minutes - heres to hoping! n/t
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 10:55 PM
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31. I Didn't Download That Octoshape, So Am Not Seeing It... n/t
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 10:56 PM
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32. I Thought That Was Sand... n/t
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Feron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 10:21 PM
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24. It looks the same to me?
I don't know.

I'm going to lay off the camera for tonight. Watching the robots work was a lot less stressful. LOL
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 10:22 PM
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25. The stuff coming out just got a lot darker in color.... and some holes seem bigger
...to my untrained eye.


Don't know what it means, though.
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Mythbuster Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 10:22 PM
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26. Looks like the pressure just shot up.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 10:25 PM
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27. I'm guessing "top kill attempt #2" just ended.....

Much thicker plumes, and much darker in color.

Seems like bigger holes too.



Doesn't seem good to me.... but I have no clue what it should look like.
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 10:26 PM
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28. Looks like mud to me still in comparison to before the top kill n/t
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 11:10 PM
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33. Maybe I'm Not Seeing This Correctly, But That Section On The Right Side
of that tuber looks like it's begun to leak a little more. And to the right of center, where there were two smaller holes looks like they merged together.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 11:38 PM
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34. Here's a better photo that shows the specific area
Edited on Thu May-27-10 11:40 PM by Duer 157099
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 11:45 PM
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35. Saw That Earlier... BP Feed Isn't Showing As Lighter Right Now!
As I said, I'm a novice, but doesn't look like rate is slowing and I'm kind of wondering if it's not just building up for a blow!

But I KNOW NOTHING for sure! It all looks disgusting!
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 11:51 PM
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36. Right, that little "lighter plume" is currently intermittant on the video
at this moment, it's not there at all. So, something is partially blocking the hole that it's coming from, that's all I was saying.

But yeah, it does look like somethings gonna blow soon doesn't it?
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 11:58 PM
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37. As I Said... I'm No Expert & Could Be Reading The Leaves Wrong...
Still, the gushing is still spewing & gushing at about the same rate!

Well, it's about 1:00 AM here... if I can't sleep I'll be back! Gotta get out of this chair for a while. Nice having a chat. If you're in a better time zone... keep posting.

Guess I could have checked out your zone, huh?
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 12:02 AM
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38. Checked It... I'm On The West Side Of The Gulf & Just Waiting To See
it hit our shores. May not be what LA is seeing, but I don't doubt it will affect us here! There have been a LOT of cancellations of trips around here. Traffic seems light.

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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 09:47 AM
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39. Finally here's a good still shot of what I was talking about last night
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