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demtenjeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 12:02 PM
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poor widdle cry baby Roeder gets hearing today cause of bad treatment
what a douche

Abortion doctor's killer gets hearing on petition
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The Associated Press
WICHITA, Kan. - The convicted killer of a Kansas abortion provider will get a hearing for a petition complaining of his treatment in prison and seeking his release.

Scott Roeder's habeas corpus petition is set for a hearing Friday before Judge Timothy Henderson in Wichita. A habeas corpus petition requires that a judge determine whether the government can continue to hold a prisoner.

His court-appointed attorney, Michael Brown, could not immediately be reached Thursday for comment.

The separate murder case against Roeder for killing Dr. George Tiller remains under appeal.



Read more: http://www.kansas.com/2010/06/04/1343607/abortion-doctors-killer-gets-hearing.html#ixzz0pu9ZRjQ5
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 12:04 PM
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1. What a fucking wimp n/t
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 12:05 PM
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2. He's a right-wing extremist. Kinda comes with the territory, no? -nt
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 12:08 PM
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3. What? He thought prison was supposed to be fun?
maybe he thought it was supposed to be a carnival or a picnic. Sorry, Roeder, if you can't do the time, don;t do the crime.
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demtenjeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 12:09 PM
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5. he still thinks he was doing God's work
and thought he would be praised not convicted
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Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 05:24 PM
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38. He'll have to kill himself to test THAT theory. I say he should give it a whirl.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 12:11 PM
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7. NO, he's a hero
he should have the penal penthouse - at least that's what his handlers led him to believe. (no, I don't believe for a second he did this on his own.)
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demtenjeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 01:37 PM
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16. I truly believe he thought he would be praised
and not be prosecuted
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 12:08 PM
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4. He's a convicted murderer
of course they can keep him locked up.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 12:09 PM
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6. Didn't the Bush Crime Family argue that Habeas Corpus doesn't apply to terrorists?
I'm sure Roeder voted for Chimp and Darth twice, so it's only fair that he gets treated according to the standards he voted for.

Maybe they can waterboard the piece of shit too?
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 12:14 PM
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8. Even convicted murderers get their rights
It's a weird system, and probably second worst that could possibly be fashioned. Worse would be just about anything else. I hope Mr. Roeder gets a full, complete and impartial review of his petition before a decision is handed down, so that we can all be sure (especially Mr. Roeder) that he had every break imaginable, and was still found to be a low-down, cowardly fuckwad. I don't want there to be any reasonable doubt about that both for the low-down, cowardly fuckwad's sake, and my own.
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Caliman73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 03:45 AM
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27. Roeder will never think that he has had any breaks.
In his mind he is not guilty of murder, he was defending the poor innocent babies. He will never accept that he actually committed callous murder. I agree that our system is set up to try to be as accurate and impartial as possible and we need to go through these processes, but to think that Roeder will ever one day think, "Yeah, I got a fair trial" would be like waiting for Dick Cheney to say, "Man we made some really awful, unconstitutional decisions."
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 12:17 PM
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9. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time!
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burnsei sensei Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 12:21 PM
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10. Even common criminals know
that Roeder is scum.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 12:23 PM
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11. what a bunch of town busies we are, to mock the imprisoned....
:wtf:

Rotten eggs and vegetables, anyone?

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demtenjeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 12:26 PM
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12. Oh it is major news here...since it is my town
cameras and trucks from ALL over the place are here
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 12:32 PM
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13. yes, but the OP title makes your condescension clear....
Edited on Fri Jun-04-10 12:33 PM by mike_c
The man is doing his time. I think he deserves some respect for that. I'd respect him more if he didn't whine about it as much, but then I'd probably whine too, in his place. It's hard to look down on the man when you can envision yourself in his shoes.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 12:41 PM
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14. You are kidding, right? Respect for doing his time because he murdered
someone in cold blood????? I don't envision myself in his shoes, the thought to murder someone (and I've had two, count 'em, two husbands) has never crossed my mind....He's a whiny crybaby who will die in jail, as he should.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 01:06 PM
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demtenjeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 02:08 PM
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17. I don't even care
if it makes me hard feeling
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RayOfHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 09:15 PM
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24. DESERVES respect for doing time? Are you KIDDING? n/t
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 03:37 AM
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26. what kind of stupid shit is this ? the piece of shit MURDERED an innocent person
there are family and friends who no longer have a husband, father, friend etc .

respect the fucker for doing time ? hahahhahaha

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Caliman73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 04:04 AM
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28. Envision yourself in his shoes?
You can see yourself committing premeditated murder against a person because of a difference in beliefs? He deserves NO respect whatsoever. He is doing his time because he was convicted after putting up an unsuccessful defense. He is serving his sentence because it is either that or he kill himself. He is trying to get out of serving his sentence in prison by claiming that he is being mistreated or unlawfully detained.

How in hell do you figure the murderer deserves one shred of respect? He should be treated humanely within the context of the imprisonment for example, there should be no beatings or verbal abuse from guards or allowing of other inmates to beat him. He should be fed, allowed to bathe and have clean clothing according to an acceptable standard. He should not be separated from others as in being placed in solitary confinement unless he poses a threat or major disruption to the prison. Other than that he is in PRISON for 1st Degree Murder.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 02:36 PM
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31. Respect? He killed an innocent person, you idiot.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 02:42 PM
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32. This tells me more about you, than about him.
Edited on Sat Jun-05-10 02:43 PM by Ikonoklast
I cannot envision myself in the shoes of a cold-blooded killer, who guns down people in front of their families.

Fuck him, I hope he rots in prison for a long, long time.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 04:42 PM
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33. empathy used to be a liberal trait....
Not any longer, I see. I'll bet everyone responding in this thread would whine just as loudly if faced with the same punishment. Not much empathy around here anymore, apparently.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 04:44 PM
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34. No. I accept total responsibility for my actions. A Liberal trait.
I do not empathize with premeditated murderers in any way.



And the only whining I see in this thread is coming from you.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 05:06 PM
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35. you truely don't see anything wrong with mocking the less fortunate and the downtrodden...?
Sure, he's imprisoned because of his crimes. What more punishment do you want? Why add your contempt? He's doing his time. He's being punished.

I've been shocked by the bile expressed in this thread. In your response to me, you act as though compassion is a character flaw.

And if you think you could do the time any better, I suspect you're fooling yourself. I know I couldn't.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 05:22 PM
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37. He IS NOT doing his time.
He is bucking his punishment every step of the way. This will not be that last time he complains about prison not being to his liking.

What part of that do you refuse to see?

And I reiterate that I have zero compassion for pre-meditated murderers.

You may waste yours on such scum.

Not me.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 03:27 AM
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25. Fuck him. He got better than he deserved - I was sorry they don't have the death penalty. nt
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demtenjeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 10:08 AM
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29. we do
but he didn't meet the criteria.


too bad some didn't take him out
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 02:20 PM
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30. "He didn't meet the criteria"? Does anyone if not him? nt
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 02:21 PM
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18. Roeder can't understand why he is not being treated as a great man - he thinks he did right.
He has enough people behind him that I am sure we will see appeals such as this for years to come, and when he finally accepts he is in prison for life, and his delusions clear away, I think he will decompensate into real mental illness...


mark
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demtenjeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 05:37 PM
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19. The judge today basically told him to go cheney himself
but every time he has a complaint, he costs us money
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 07:03 PM
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21. Thanks for the update.
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demtenjeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 08:32 PM
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22. no problem
by the way, my relative that works at Roeder's life home says he is treated fine, just like all the rest of the inmates.


Roeder just thought he would be a hero. I watched the sentencing...he looked shocked that he would be put in jail
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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 06:01 PM
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20. Being a martyr ain't what it's cracked up to be, eh Mr. Roeder?
Whatsamatter? Did your colleagues swipe your soap-on-a-rope too many times?
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 09:13 PM
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23.  his COURTAPPOINTED lawyer requested DISMISSAL of his crybabbyCRAP?!1
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jazzelle Donating Member (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 05:21 PM
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36. I'm against the death penalty...
but i would make an exception here.
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