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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 09:30 AM
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From the UK: In the Land of the Free, Only Liberals Can Cause Outrage
From Roy Greenslade in the Guardian:


http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2010/jun/08/freedom-of-speech-usa

Why was Helen Thomas gagged?

...

But it's the next bit of the story that concerns me. She was also dumped by her speaking agency, which issued a statement: "In light of recent events, Nine Speakers is no longer able to represent Ms Thomas, nor can we condone her comments on the Middle East."

The agency's president, Diane Nine, later emailed HuffPost to say: "We no longer represent Helen for books or lectures or anything else."

So, in the land of the free, where freedom of speech is guaranteed under the constitution, a person who expresses what are deemed to be controversial views is effectively gagged. Has Ms Nine never heard of Voltaire?

I note that Thomas was also required to step down from delivering a high school graduation speech.

I imagine it's just the beginning of a process of public, and media, exclusion for Thomas. That may be a personal problem for her (though, at her age, she may not care). But, as she would be the first to grasp, it has wider implications.

It is one of those rare occasions in which one can see clearly how people in America who are willing to express anti-establishment opinions are demonised, marginalised and finally excluded from public debate.

Did I say "people"? I mean, of course, those who are identified as liberals. Right-wing TV and radio hosts can say what they like, however outrageous. Some iconoclasts are obviously freer than others.

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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 09:50 AM
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1. Not really true. Check out David Frum
Edited on Tue Jun-08-10 09:53 AM by Xipe Totec
It is all about committing political heresy.

http://www.frumforum.com/how-the-gop-purged-me

And this is the heretic article that caused Frum's demise:

http://www.truthout.org/david-frum-waterloo57875

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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 09:59 AM
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2. Helen Thomas is being shunned by the entire Washington establishment.
Edited on Tue Jun-08-10 10:02 AM by BurtWorm
For one thoughtless, throwaway statement. She's being treated like a terrorist. The CEOs of Goldman Sachs and BP get better treatment than she's been shown.

PS: Frum will work again. Of course he's much younger than she is. I can imagine she'll be able to start a second career as a radical gadfly only Amy Goodman will talk to, but that may be her best and only shot.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 10:41 AM
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7. But yet, when Dick Armey
and Tom Delay said that the Palestinians should leave -- or should be forcibly removed -- no one batted an eyelash. Hmmmmm.
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 11:53 AM
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15. WHO OWNS THE MEDIA...... WELL?
BERNIE MADOFF WOULD KNOW
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Gaedel Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 10:44 AM
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8. How about?
Earl Butz

Al Davis

Jimmy "the Greek" Snyder





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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 11:24 AM
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12. That was then, this is now.
Edited on Tue Jun-08-10 11:25 AM by BurtWorm
Rush Limbaugh says the same stupid shit Butz and Snyder said every day. I don't see him getting his fat, boil-covered ass kicked to the curb (where it belongs).
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 11:50 AM
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13. That's because saying stupid things is totally consistent with the right wing
For the left, saying stupid things is not the norm.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 11:53 AM
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16. The right wing has paid a lot of money to convince the center that its ideas are 'normal'
and left wing ideas are extreme.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 10:03 AM
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3. k+r
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 10:05 AM
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4. Yup, the whole reaction is nauseating...n/t
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 10:13 AM
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5. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, BurtWorm.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 10:21 AM
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6. so
the left threw her under the bus?

look, the lady made a mockery of the M$M stooges. They laid in wait ready to attack her.

if she resigns, they should all resign. if they lynch her, they should all be lynched,
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 11:50 AM
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14. WE HAVE NO VOICE, THE MEAN SCREAM MEDIA HAS DESTROYED AMERICA
THEY ARE AT THE ROOT. IT ALL STARTED WITH THE DESTRUCTION OF DAN RATHER
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 10:44 AM
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9. Ill raise a pint to this OP and knr
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 10:45 AM
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10. K &R
The truth shall set us free
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Malikshah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 10:46 AM
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11. Yup-- US MSM is as cowardly as ever. Never seen such a group of lily-livered
sycophants.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 11:57 AM
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17. K & R nt
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Mushroom Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 12:18 PM
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18. Oily land of the free
Burt of Tremors 3: Back to Perfection sums it all up for me:

"What kind of supreme being would condone such irony."


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