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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 11:44 PM
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UPDATE: More Statistical Experts Focus on E-Vote 'Tampering, Malfunction' in SC Primary


More Statistical Experts Focus on 'Tampering, Malfunction' of E-Vote System in SC Primary
'Something smells here,' finds FiveThirtyEight.com, suggesting the possibility of 'very devious manipulation' of voting machines or tabulators...

This post is an update to our earlier one today, which highlighted early, unexplained disparities seen by academic experts working on behalf of South Carolina Democrats, between paper-ballot absentee voting results and those from the 100% unverifiable ES&S iVotronic touch-screen systems used on Election Day last Tuesday in South Carolina for the Democratic U.S. Senate primary race between the unheard of, jobless candidate Alvin Greene (who did absolutely no campaigning), and state legislator Vic Rawl (who did).

As we detailed in the previous post, Greene's "victory", thus far, seems to make absolutely no legitimate sense to state Democrats, or anybody else, in truth. The disparities in the voting patterns were described by experts quoted in Politico earlier today as "curious", "staggering" and "red flags", and by Election Integrity experts who we quoted as "clear signs of election fraud".

Tonight we're updating with details from two reports from FiveThirtyEight.com's Tom Schaller who has offered a number of statistical analyses of the SC race which begin to greatly narrow down the possibilities to what may have happened to include "tampering, or at least machine malfunction, perhaps at the highest level" and the possibility of "a very devious manipulation of the vote returns"…

FULL STORY: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7891

Related earlier today…
'Experts' Eye 100% Unverifiable E-Vote System in 'Win' of SC's Mystery U.S. Senate Nominee
'Staggering' disparities seen between Alvin Greene's Election Day touch-screen results and paper-based absentee vote
Will corporate MSM have courage to 'go there'?...
PREVIOUS STORY: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7890

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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:01 AM
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1. "100% unverifiable ES&S iVotronic touch-screen systems"........
and everybody makes fun at how fucking stupid tea baggers are....???
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:10 AM
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2. cant rule out the machines
without real paper ballots, audits, recounts, and transparent stout chain of custody
too much is at doubt.
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:13 AM
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3. duh! And yet, the head of
Edited on Sat Jun-12-10 12:14 AM by bbgrunt
the SC Democratic party on KO's countdown said that the MOST important question is where Green got his money--not any malfunction of voting machines. Nothing is done about these machines by either party. It's like they are all in on the game to disenfranchise voters of all persuasions.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:36 AM
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4. and yet the solution is so incredibly simple
Edited on Sat Jun-12-10 12:37 AM by SoCalDem
1. paper ballots
2. bazillions of unemployed people eager to count those ballots
3. chalkboards to tally them
4. phones to call them in
5. internet to record & save the totals

but we insist on making elections as complicated and susceptible to fraud as possible :grr:
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:38 AM
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5. 6. national voting holiday Friday - Monday.
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howaboutme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 10:40 AM
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10. BINGO!!
The objective of voting should be absolute integrity, not the instantaneous tallying of results.

The "elite" of both Parties are complicit if this isn't corrected. They were complicit in creating the situation. The one thing that scares them is one person one vote. They want to nullify that by chipping away at that right...but not obviously. Make the sheeple feel as though they have control.

George Carlin said it well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q To paraphrase - they (the elite) control everything. Forget the politicians as they are there to make you feel as though you have some control...you don't.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 05:58 AM
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6. Since SC is totally run by republians
do you think they are trying to "pretend" the democrats fixed an election. So they can complain.
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penndragon69 Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 10:26 PM
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13. No Doubt.
Whenever the refugniCONS control a state (like Ohio) you can count on them doing anything and everything
to prevent a Democrat from winning or voting.

That's not to say that Mr. Greene ( may or may not be guilty),
but with refugniCONS.....all things are in doubt.

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stillwaiting Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 06:48 AM
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7. We should build a movement with the conservative base to reform voting in this country.
Many cons are convinced that Obama stole the election.

We could use that silly belief to our advantage.

When a Republican "wins" the White House and Congress in the future (legitimately or otherwise) they will NOT join us in reforming the system (kind of like how most voices from the left fell silent on voting reform with Obama's and the Dems elections to Congress).

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howaboutme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 10:44 AM
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11. That is what needs done
Edited on Sat Jun-12-10 10:45 AM by howaboutme
This is far bigger than politics and liberal versus conservative. In actuality that is used as a ploy so that "they" can keep us divided and fighting amongst ourselves while they control the votes and plunder the nation. "They" involves corporatists and bankers and war profiteers and both Parties.
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stillwaiting Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 07:45 PM
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12. Yep. We have to one day start a movement to change the way our country operates.
WITH conservatives.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 07:25 AM
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8. GOP = crime syndicate
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 10:28 AM
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9. Trial run for bigger fish.
CA just approved the open primary. I look for them creating ways to muddy election theft at the machine counting levels, and this is one big fat juicy one.
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jazzelle Donating Member (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 09:30 AM
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14. Will Greene debate Jim DEMENTED ?
That'll be interesting.
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pundaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 12:47 PM
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15. OMG - follow the threads and understand how Blanche won in Arkansas!
We aren't a democracy while this shit continues!
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 04:18 PM
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16. In 25 precincts, Greene received more votes than were actually cast....
Well that certainly seems a bit indicative.



So how to explain the unlikely election result? One theory, propagated by BradBlog's Brad Friedman, is that Greene was the beneficiary of phony voting-machine results. In 25 precincts, Greene received more votes than were actually cast; and while Rawls won absentee ballots by a whopping 84-to-16 percentage point margin, the election-day results showed Greene winning by 18 percentage points.

http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0613/dems-convinced-voter-fraud-sc-primaries/
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