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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:03 PM Original message |
Cynthia Tucker: Obama squandered his Oval Office moment |
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bahrbearian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
1. Corporatism |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:51 AM Response to Reply #1 |
62. Agreed. I think BP is getting some backroom deal on this one. |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
2. Who is Cynthia Tucker? |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. The Atlanta Journal Constitution's political columnist. Biography for you: |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Does that make her opinion gospel? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
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William Z. Foster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. odd |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Odd, indeed. Of course, that would explain why our elected representatives feel so free to ignore us |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. so well said. we're supposed to be above the "down with intoohlucktools" crowd. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:11 PM Response to Reply #13 |
73. Well said. nt |
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newtothegame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 04:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
79. No, Obama is God. His life is the Gospel. nt |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 04:28 PM Response to Reply #10 |
81. You show that strawman who's boss! |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:21 PM Response to Reply #10 |
86. No but it is respected. |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
87. nobody said her opinion is gospel |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 09:00 AM Response to Reply #10 |
95. Does opinion have to be gospel to be relevant? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:49 PM Response to Reply #2 |
32. Exactly, and who gives a shit what she thinks? |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 10:50 PM Response to Reply #32 |
45. Interesting choice of metaphor... |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:54 AM Response to Reply #32 |
57. And Jon Stewart, don't forget. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:53 AM Response to Reply #57 |
64. Robert Reich is the latest on the big list 'o heretics 'n apostates. n/t |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 09:05 PM Response to Reply #64 |
92. And is Krugman a saint or scumbag this week? I get whiplash keeping track... |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 08:59 AM Response to Reply #92 |
94. I can never keep up with Krugman's status, given how it changes from moment to moment. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:54 AM Response to Reply #2 |
65. Who are you? n/t |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
4. Obama could have pulled gold bars from his ass and a crew here would criticize it. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Sorry, KonaKane, Cynthia Tucker isn't on "a crew here". |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:44 PM Response to Reply #7 |
29. You're more hung up on craigslist than anyone I have seen here. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 10:46 PM Response to Reply #29 |
43. Accolytes, oh how brainy. We're not worthy. |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. No, Obama pulled corporate shit from his ass. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:25 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Cynthia Tucker and her "crew" here are just haterrz |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:23 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. Pray, tell. Which was his worst speech, then, if not this one? |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:32 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. whaaaaaaaa? they're all A+++++++++!! |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:37 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Exactly. Crickets from the poster above. n/t |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:56 PM Response to Reply #22 |
90. Ha! Are you allowed to quote another poster? Careful.....nt |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:53 PM Response to Reply #4 |
34. And he could pour oil in the gulf on national TV in primetime |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 10:06 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. It's only a year and a half into his presidency. You can't possibly expect him to stop pouring oil! |
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Hardrada (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:23 PM Response to Reply #37 |
75. LOL! |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 05:40 PM Response to Reply #34 |
83. Oh so you'd rather have Sarah Palin pouring the oil? |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
35. When Obama pulls gold bars from his ass, I vow to applaud the performance. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:12 AM Response to Reply #4 |
48. If that wasn't his worst speech from the Oval Office |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:58 AM Response to Reply #48 |
58. I think it was his first speech |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
5. Yet another lost opportunity. |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:33 PM Response to Reply #5 |
23. +1. n/t |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:39 PM Response to Reply #5 |
27. Touche! |
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Poboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 10:17 PM Response to Reply #5 |
41. Yes sir. Its all gift wrapped and ready for the taking, and he shrinks. - nt |
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Yuugal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
6. and then he went all god on me |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
8. This is a pattern with the Obama administration. |
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
9. The crisis is ongoing and hasn't been "wasted" -- not yet. But tonight's speech was. |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
17. How do you "waste" a crisis? |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:28 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. I did not get that phrase either. Really what strikes me initially... |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:42 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. I agree 100% - you nailed it. I couldn't put my finger on it till you elucidated it, but you're |
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Poboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:05 AM Response to Reply #18 |
47. Exactly. This speech is 1 month overdue, and what should have been said |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:14 AM Response to Reply #18 |
49. My thoughts exactly |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:34 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Rahm: "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste," NOVEMBER 21, 2008 |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:47 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Thanks for the link. It lends context to the column posted by the OP. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 10:06 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. heheh -- i remember being starry-eyed in my youth. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:16 AM Response to Reply #36 |
51. I remember being starry-eyed last year |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:00 AM Response to Reply #30 |
46. Think of it as using an opportunity |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:25 AM Response to Reply #17 |
52. wouldn't want to "panic the market," now, would we? when it's Goldman Sachs vs the Gulf, no brainer |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 03:18 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. That kinda really wasn't my point....as much as you and I might not like it, President Obama has |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:14 AM Response to Reply #54 |
67. i think i've thought it through |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:52 PM Response to Reply #67 |
76. Then you're deliberately misreading my post, and attempting to "pick a fight." I said nary a word |
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Poboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:51 AM Response to Reply #52 |
56. BP Hires Goldman Sachs |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:53 PM Response to Reply #56 |
88. If BP hired Goldman Sachs, it is to get advice on... |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
19. I guess its over now.. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. No, just to Cynthia Tucker, she's part of my "crew" here you're always talking about. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:48 PM Response to Reply #19 |
31. at some point it's going to dawn on you guys that it's not about the *speeches* it's the (in)action |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 09:51 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Like what? Putting on a cod piece and flying a jet into the Gulf airspace? |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 10:07 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Captain Straw Man strikes again!!!!! |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 10:10 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Hey, you can't blame folks for wanting to have their little erotic fantasies. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 10:14 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. that's what GD-P is for -- there should be a "you must be 18" to enter |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 09:21 AM Response to Reply #40 |
66. Sometimes it's like walking in on a slumber party over there. |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 05:44 PM Response to Reply #19 |
84. It is for some people who live in the gulf. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-15-10 10:47 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. --- |
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democrat2thecore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:49 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. And.....It took EIGHT WEEKS for an Oval Office speech! |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 03:32 AM Response to Original message |
55. What a load of crap |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:26 AM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Being prepared for higher electric bills |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
60. Was she watching a different speech? |
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immune (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:00 AM Response to Reply #60 |
68. Not effective enough, its never enough |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:09 PM Response to Reply #68 |
77. A lot of progressives like dramatic pandering. |
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whatchamacallit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 03:34 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Misappropriation of Che Guevara's image (nt) |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 04:25 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Che was a man of action |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
61. do you just google "obama speech bad" to come up with this crap? |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 09:02 AM Response to Reply #61 |
97. Do you always turn it on the DUer? |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
63. Cynthia Tucker never really loved him! |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
69. She means he didn't make the Carter energy speech. |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:16 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Regardless of the fact that selfish jackasses elected Regan, Carter was right. n/t |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:42 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. I started riding a bike after that speech. |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 05:46 PM Response to Reply #71 |
85. History proved him right and had Reagan not fucked up his policies |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:20 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. I think the Iran Hostage Crisis did more to kick Carter under than his energy speech. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 05:37 PM Response to Reply #74 |
82. Yep. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:57 PM Response to Reply #74 |
91. BINGO. Go to the head of the class. nt |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 06:21 AM Response to Reply #74 |
93. Yep. And even then he didn't really tank until the Desert 1 fiasco... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
70. "The president has wasted a crisis." |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
89. Should have set up a specific fund to aid Gulf marine life. People want to help. And aren't being |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 09:01 AM Response to Reply #89 |
96. +1. Look at how much Americans helped after Haiti Quake. n/t |
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