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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:03 PM
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Cynthia Tucker: Obama squandered his Oval Office moment
Not too many written reivews yet, mostly talking heads on TV, but this did come out...

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Obama could have called for a “moon shot” tonight to make a transition from fossil fuels to cleaner energy, and he failed to do that. He made his first-ever speech in the Oval Office, and he had all three networks at the 8 p.m. slot, and he didn’t make good use of it.

The speech was flat and uninspiring. He recited a litany of the things the administration has done to try to bring the spill under control, but it was a rehash of things the public has already heard. Yes, he’s going to make BP pay. That’s good — as far as it goes. But he didn’t use the moment to assert a resolute sense of command.

Nor did he use it to call on Americans to make the sacrifices that will be necessary to make the transition from petroleum to cleaner fuels. Yes, he said a little about it. But he didn’t even endorse the energy bill currently languishing in the Senate.

The president has wasted a crisis.

http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/2010/06/15/obama-squandered-his-oval-office-moment/?cxntfid=blogs_cynthia_tucker
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:08 PM
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1. Corporatism
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 08:51 AM
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62. Agreed. I think BP is getting some backroom deal on this one.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:09 PM
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2. Who is Cynthia Tucker?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:10 PM
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3. The Atlanta Journal Constitution's political columnist. Biography for you:
Tucker was born in 1955 in Monroeville, Alabama in the age of segregation; she did not attend an integrated school until she was a junior in high school. She then attended Auburn University where she majored in English and journalism and wrote for the student newspaper, The Plainsman. After graduation in 1976, she applied for a job at the Atlanta Journal-Constitution (AJC) where she was hired as a reporter. In 1980, she left Atlanta and the AJC for a job at the The Philadelphia Inquirer. Shortly thereafter, Tucker decided that she wanted to be a foreign correspondent in Africa, but the Inquirer considered her too inexperienced for the assignment. Tucker set out on her own, traveling around Africa and freelancing for six months. She then returned to Atlanta, where she was rehired as a columnist by the AJC.<1>

Tucker was selected as Nieman Fellow by Harvard University in 1988. She was promoted to her current position as editorial page editor of the AJC in 1990. In 1993, the National Women’s Political Caucus awarded Tucker their Exceptional Merit Media Award.<1> In 2005, Tucker received the Elijah Parish Lovejoy Award as well as an honorary Doctor of Laws degree from Colby College.

Tucker currently blogs regularly and writes two columns each week. They appear on Wednesdays and Sundays. Her columns are further syndicated to over 40 U.S. newspapers and appear on the AJC's website. Those columns earned her nominations for the Pulitzer Prize for commentary in 2004 and 2006 before her eventual win in 2007.<1>

In July 2009, Tucker moved to Washington, D.C. as the Atlanta Journal-Constitution's political columnist.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:13 PM
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10. Does that make her opinion gospel?
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William Z. Foster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:18 PM
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13. odd
Why would we not judge a piece on its own merits, rather than judging it by the presumed power or status of the speaker? saying that "somebodies" should be listened to and "nobodies" should not - that seems to me to be the root cause of all of our political and social problems.

"Listen to and follow the powerful people; dismiss and ridicule the powerless." That thinking is the source of the injustice and inequality in the culture.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:29 PM
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20. Odd, indeed. Of course, that would explain why our elected representatives feel so free to ignore us
We don't have the proper credentials for offering our opinions.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:29 PM
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21. so well said. we're supposed to be above the "down with intoohlucktools" crowd.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:11 PM
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73. Well said. nt
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 04:19 PM
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79. No, Obama is God. His life is the Gospel. nt
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 04:28 PM
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81. You show that strawman who's boss!
:eyes:
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 08:21 PM
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86.  No but it is respected.
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 08:24 PM
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87. nobody said her opinion is gospel
Edited on Wed Jun-16-10 08:25 PM by northernlights
but I, for one, always loved listening to her on the Sunday morning lineup. Smart, smart, smart woman. One of my favorites. One of the few who would hold her own against the yammering rightwing bigmouths.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:00 AM
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95. Does opinion have to be gospel to be relevant?
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:49 PM
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32. Exactly, and who gives a shit what she thinks?
She and Tweety can go hide in a closet.
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 10:50 PM
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45. Interesting choice of metaphor...
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 07:54 AM
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57. And Jon Stewart, don't forget.
And all the others you folks are ignoring now.

BTW - who ARE you listening to anymore?
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 08:53 AM
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64. Robert Reich is the latest on the big list 'o heretics 'n apostates. n/t
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 09:05 PM
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92. And is Krugman a saint or scumbag this week? I get whiplash keeping track...
Has anyone else noticed that those who have the most binary reaction to support or criticism of Obama are often the first to complain about "purists"?
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 08:59 AM
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94. I can never keep up with Krugman's status, given how it changes from moment to moment.
And you are right about the 'purist' business.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 08:54 AM
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65. Who are you? n/t
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KonaKane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:10 PM
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4. Obama could have pulled gold bars from his ass and a crew here would criticize it.
It wasn't his best but it sure wasnt his worst. I'm getting awfully sick of the defeatism that will surely lead to more years of GOP rule if we don't watch it.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:11 PM
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7. Sorry, KonaKane, Cynthia Tucker isn't on "a crew here".
Edited on Tue Jun-15-10 09:12 PM by Bluebear
Are your craigslist buddies mad again?
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KonaKane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:44 PM
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29. You're more hung up on craigslist than anyone I have seen here.
You can't give that one a rest, but I'll leave that for you to figure out. Point is, Cynthia sure has her accolytes here, especially when it comes to bagging on Obama for everything he says and does.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 10:46 PM
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43. Accolytes, oh how brainy. We're not worthy.
Edited on Tue Jun-15-10 10:48 PM by Bluebear
:silly:
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:21 PM
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14. No, Obama pulled corporate shit from his ass.
I don't see anything wrong with criticizing that.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:25 PM
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16. Cynthia Tucker and her "crew" here are just haterrz
:rofl:
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:23 PM
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15. Pray, tell. Which was his worst speech, then, if not this one?
:shrug:

:dem:

-Laelth
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:32 PM
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22. whaaaaaaaa? they're all A+++++++++!!
:evilgrin:
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:37 PM
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25. Exactly. Crickets from the poster above. n/t
;)

:dem:

-Laelth
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 08:56 PM
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90. Ha! Are you allowed to quote another poster? Careful.....nt
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:53 PM
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34. And he could pour oil in the gulf on national TV in primetime
a crew here would not only applaud it, but excoriate anyone who found fault with it.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 10:06 PM
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37. It's only a year and a half into his presidency. You can't possibly expect him to stop pouring oil!
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:23 PM
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75. LOL!
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 05:40 PM
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83. Oh so you'd rather have Sarah Palin pouring the oil?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Sorry, couldn't resist.
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:55 PM
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35. When Obama pulls gold bars from his ass, I vow to applaud the performance.
I look forward to it. Is said performance already scheduled?
:thumbsup:
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:12 AM
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48. If that wasn't his worst speech from the Oval Office
I don't know what was.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 07:58 AM
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58. I think it was his first speech
from the Oval Office.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:10 PM
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5. Yet another lost opportunity.
Once again, Obama skillfully avoids having greatness thrust upon him.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:33 PM
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23. +1. n/t
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:39 PM
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27. Touche!
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 10:17 PM
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41. Yes sir. Its all gift wrapped and ready for the taking, and he shrinks. - nt
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Yuugal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:11 PM
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6. and then he went all god on me
As an atheist, I really hate that. Why don't christians ever read the damn book they keep trying to shove in my family's face?

Matthew 6:6

"But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."

In other words, it was god being nice to the rest of us and telling his followers to cut that shit out and stop waving him around like a big puffy foam "we're #1" hand. /religious indignation


As for the rest of the speech, I want my 18 min back. :)
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:12 PM
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8. This is a pattern with the Obama administration.
War, education, the economy, the environment...the White House has held the course, instead of breaking with the failures of the past.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:12 PM
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9. The crisis is ongoing and hasn't been "wasted" -- not yet. But tonight's speech was.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:27 PM
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17. How do you "waste" a crisis?
:shrug:

That's rank cynicism, not cogent analysis.

Myself, I thought the speech was a bit too mild, given the stakes. However, there are a lot of considerations a President has to make when he gives a speech like this. For one thing, he doesn't want to panic the market tomorrow morning and make the recession we're just emerging from worse.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:28 PM
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18. I did not get that phrase either. Really what strikes me initially...
...is that this is the nationwide address the President should have made one month ago.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:42 PM
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28. I agree 100% - you nailed it. I couldn't put my finger on it till you elucidated it, but you're
exactly right: this is more along the lines of the first speech he should've given. I think that's why this one disappoints. Good call.
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:05 AM
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47. Exactly. This speech is 1 month overdue, and what should have been said
tonight, will fester unsaid until yet again, perception forces him to make the half-hearted obligatory acknowledgment.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:14 AM
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49. My thoughts exactly
I'll even up the ante: This is the nationwide address the President should have made six weeks ago.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:34 PM
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24. Rahm: "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste," NOVEMBER 21, 2008
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122721278056345271.html

This opportunity isn't lost on the new president and his team. "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste," Rahm Emanuel, Mr. Obama's new chief of staff, told a Wall Street Journal conference of top corporate chief executives this week.

He elaborated: "Things that we had postponed for too long, that were long-term, are now immediate and must be dealt with. This crisis provides the opportunity for us to do things that you could not do before."

He ticked off some areas where he thought new doors were opening: energy, health, education, tax policy, regulatory reforms. The current atmosphere, he added, even makes bipartisanship easier: "The good news, I suppose, if you want to see a silver lining, is that the problems are big enough that they lend themselves to ideas from both parties for the solution."

Mr. Emanuel noted, correctly, that the U.S. largely squandered the opportunity the oil shocks of the 1970s presented to make serious, long-term changes in its energy habits -- a failure that has returned to haunt the nation today.

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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:47 PM
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30. Thanks for the link. It lends context to the column posted by the OP.
I can see the point, and it's well taken. I concede the point but still maintain it's a pretty cynical way to do business. I guess I still retain a shred of starry-eyed idealism from my misspent youth. :-)
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 10:06 PM
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36. heheh -- i remember being starry-eyed in my youth.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:16 AM
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51. I remember being starry-eyed last year
x(
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 12:00 AM
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46. Think of it as using an opportunity
Sad thing is, it takes a real shock like this to say "Maybe we don't love oil as much as we thought we did."

It's "wasted" when we pass that up and say "Oil is still the only way to do things, and we're not going to work at doing something different. The gulf was just a blip."
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:25 AM
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52. wouldn't want to "panic the market," now, would we? when it's Goldman Sachs vs the Gulf, no brainer
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 03:18 AM
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54. That kinda really wasn't my point....as much as you and I might not like it, President Obama has
Edited on Wed Jun-16-10 03:24 AM by apocalypsehow
obligations to measure his words in public, unlike the two of us, anonymous posters on the internets.

All presidents do. That goes with the job of being the Leader of the most powerful nation on the planet. The responsibility of leadership in such a powerful position often entails a sort of enforced diplomacy of the tongue, whether you like it or not.

And while we're on the subject...your dismissive hand-waving at the stock market - "Goldman Sachs" as you style it - is a cheap, easy shot. I get it. But there are literally hundreds of billions, TRILLIONS, of dollars playing in that market. Are a lot of rich assholes getting richer off it? Sure. But there are also millions of teachers and public servants and Union members and cops, firefighters, other first responders and farmers and nurses and simply good, honest folks who have their retirements tied up in that which you so breezily dismiss as "Goldman Sachs."

I don't think you've thought this line of reply to me through. Please reconsider. Thanks.

Edit: misspelling.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:14 AM
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67. i think i've thought it through
of course millions of decent, hard working stiffs have their pensions tied up in the market; and many have been stiffed, too, by underhanded hedge funds; Calpers being a good example of that.....

but it's disingenous to say that criticizing banksters harms these workers; these folks and many more will be footing the bill for this spill for decades if Obama doesn't put BP into temp receivership; just look at how Bophal and Exxon Valdez played out;

Obama needed both bold language and bold actions last night, and neither are on the horizon


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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:52 PM
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76. Then you're deliberately misreading my post, and attempting to "pick a fight." I said nary a word
about Obama criticizing or not criticizing "bankers." That was all a big, massive Straw-man of your own making. What I pointed out was that, unlike you and I, he has to choose his words carefully in public settings, being the President of the United States and all, or, say, face the consequences of the market panicking the next day, among other unpleasant consequences. If you disagree with that, then you're not living in the real world.

But this was never about Obama or bankers or the market: you simply, like a significant minority of posters lately, are mad about something, and invented a debate with another poster who wasn't even taking the other side of argument you are basically having with yourself. Please go find someone else's time to waste, thanks. :thumbsup:
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 07:51 AM
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56. BP Hires Goldman Sachs
BP Hires Goldman Sachs
Tuesday June 15, 2010 7:24 am
Slipped into this Reuters piece is the news that BP has hired Goldman Sachs as "advisers" for unknown purposes, in addition to Pete Peterson’s Blackstone Group and Credit Suisse Group. (Tip o’ the hat to Brad Johnson)
BP has hired investment banks Blackstone Group, Goldman Sachs Group and Credit Suisse Group as advisers, a source familiar with the matter said, without identifying the purpose of the advice.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8567516

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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 08:53 PM
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88. If BP hired Goldman Sachs, it is to get advice on...
...how to make the American Working Class PAY for their fuck ups.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:28 PM
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19. I guess its over now..
since he didn't give a good speech in some people's eyes..
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:37 PM
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26. No, just to Cynthia Tucker, she's part of my "crew" here you're always talking about.
:cry:
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:48 PM
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31. at some point it's going to dawn on you guys that it's not about the *speeches* it's the (in)action
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KonaKane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:51 PM
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33. Like what? Putting on a cod piece and flying a jet into the Gulf airspace?
No one has yet given a sensible idea of what he could have done other than what he has already.

Hey, I got it...how about we hang a large "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" banner from an oil rig?
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 10:07 PM
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38. Captain Straw Man strikes again!!!!!
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 10:10 PM
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39. Hey, you can't blame folks for wanting to have their little erotic fantasies.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 10:14 PM
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40. that's what GD-P is for -- there should be a "you must be 18" to enter
it's so gooey in there.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 09:21 AM
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66. Sometimes it's like walking in on a slumber party over there.
"This picture of the vice president makes me feel all funny inside!"
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 05:44 PM
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84. It is for some people who live in the gulf.
While they sit and watch their precious resources get eaten away. Only to be patronized by another "speech".
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 10:47 PM
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44. ---
Edited on Tue Jun-15-10 10:59 PM by Bluebear
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:49 AM
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53. And.....It took EIGHT WEEKS for an Oval Office speech!
I never dreamed this president could appear so weak and indecisive. One-term and out and let's hope he is forced off the ticket in '12 and he sees he has no Democrats running in '12 that want to drown with him. It's a little early for this, but I know there are Democrats starting to look at this race - not to CHALLENGE him, but with the assumption that there's no way he will be in a position to run for re-nomination. So very, very sad.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 03:32 AM
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55. What a load of crap
She obviously didn't even read or watch the speech.

Obama could have called for a “moon shot” tonight to make a transition from fossil fuels to cleaner energy, and he failed to do that. He made his first-ever speech in the Oval Office, and he had all three networks at the 8 p.m. slot, and he didn’t make good use of it.

that was exactly what he did, and acknowledged that sacrifices (higher electric bills) will be a part of that

The speech was flat and uninspiring.

Impressionistic drivel from the emotionally needy media. This is not a Dr. Phil episode where we get to be "inspired"

He recited a litany of the things the administration has done to try to bring the spill under control, but it was a rehash of things the public has already heard.

No, the public has largely not heard this stuff, because media dingbats like you only want to talk about the president's emotions and in some cases such matters as the kind of slacks he wears when he visits the Gulf

Yes, he’s going to make BP pay. That’s good — as far as it goes. But he didn’t use the moment to assert a resolute sense of command.

Now you are just making things up. This is a vapid, empty criticism with no basis in fact

The president has wasted a crisis.

Is that the popular line now going around at all the Georgetown Cocktail parties; because it sounds nice and cliché and pseudo-intellectual? You are a waste of a journalist.
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 08:26 AM
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59. Being prepared for higher electric bills
Good grief. Every year we have higher electric bills. Climbing costs is not a shocker Mr. President, in this economy they are a constant.

I dunno.... maybe he hasn't looked at the monthly WH electric bill, grocery bill, gas receipts for the Presidential Limo fleet, cable bill etc.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 08:30 AM
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60. Was she watching a different speech?
Edited on Wed Jun-16-10 08:30 AM by Radical Activist
Obama spoke about all of those issues effectively.
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immune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 11:00 AM
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68. Not effective enough, its never enough
I get the feeling that some people wouldn't have responded well to what he said unless he had promised that the oil would stop flowing by 10:00 am on Friday morning and that the clean up would be completed by Monday morning.

Oh, and that clean, non oil based fuel would be available at every gas pump by the beginning of the work week.

Oh, and that he was cutting a personal check to anyone who might have suffered a lost night of rest as a result of his own failure to prevent/stop the leak.

Anything less is unacceptable from "the most powerful man on earth".
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 02:09 PM
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77. A lot of progressives like dramatic pandering.
There are many who want someone like Kucinich or Edwards who scream and shout to prove how progressive they are. Obama expects liberals to read and pay attention to what he's saying. When he does something liberal he doesn't broadcast it as such. It was the same during the campaign. It's a good strategy in some ways but I'm disappointed by how many liberals miss what's going on because they're still looking for theatrics.
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 03:34 PM
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78. Misappropriation of Che Guevara's image (nt)
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 04:25 PM
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80. Che was a man of action
not symbolic gestures. So I don't see your point.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 08:49 AM
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61. do you just google "obama speech bad" to come up with this crap?
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:02 AM
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97. Do you always turn it on the DUer?
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 08:52 AM
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63. Cynthia Tucker never really loved him!
:cry:
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 11:02 AM
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69. She means he didn't make the Carter energy speech.
the one that got him re-elected.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 11:16 AM
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71. Regardless of the fact that selfish jackasses elected Regan, Carter was right. n/t
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 11:42 AM
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72. I started riding a bike after that speech.
still do.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 05:46 PM
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85. History proved him right and had Reagan not fucked up his policies
we'd already be weening off of foreign oil.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:20 PM
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74. I think the Iran Hostage Crisis did more to kick Carter under than his energy speech.
People called him a debbie-downer as a result of his energy speech, but when it came to policy, that was all they could say, because they knew he was speaking truth and showing a path toward the future that wasn't an easy one to take. Afterall, it's difficult to break a habit. They just didn't want to look in the mirror is all. Almost coincidentally, the Iranians overthrew the pro-US dictatorship in Iran precisely because they didn't want foreign entities dictating to Iran what it should do with its oil reserves. Little did anybody know in those violent days they'd simply replace one group of dictators with a homegrown group of dictators.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 05:37 PM
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82. Yep.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 08:57 PM
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91. BINGO. Go to the head of the class. nt
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 06:21 AM
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93. Yep. And even then he didn't really tank until the Desert 1 fiasco...
Edited on Thu Jun-17-10 06:23 AM by JHB
Carter benefited from the "rally 'round the leader in a time of crisis" effect as much as anyone. But that didn't survive the reaction to a complete, flaming (literally) disaster. And the failure wasn't even something that could have been shifted onto the Iranians: they didn't even know it was happening until after the fact. It was a 100%-US-owned clusterfuck, and the buck for it stopped at Carter.


I'll quibble with your last part, though. I don't think many people were particularly surprised with what they got when the "father" of their revolution was Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini. For some, that was fine and dandy. For others, it was likely a case of "at least there's some hope it will be better...."
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 11:08 AM
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70. "The president has wasted a crisis."
Edited on Wed Jun-16-10 11:09 AM by ProSense
That's right, Cynthia, the President didn't say anything worthwhile because he didn't say it using the exact words you were looking for.

So one of the lessons we’ve learned from this spill is that we need better regulations, better safety standards, and better enforcement when it comes to offshore drilling. But a larger lesson is that no matter how much we improve our regulation of the industry, drilling for oil these days entails greater risk. After all, oil is a finite resource. We consume more than 20 percent of the world’s oil, but have less than 2 percent of the world’s oil reserves. And that’s part of the reason oil companies are drilling a mile beneath the surface of the ocean -- because we’re running out of places to drill on land and in shallow water.

For decades, we have known the days of cheap and easily accessible oil were numbered. For decades, we’ve talked and talked about the need to end America’s century-long addiction to fossil fuels. And for decades, we have failed to act with the sense of urgency that this challenge requires. Time and again, the path forward has been blocked -- not only by oil industry lobbyists, but also by a lack of political courage and candor.

link

These pundits are acting like they're clueless. This was not an energy policy speech, it was an address about the Gulf efforts. The President used it to mention all the things they say he didn't go into detail about, but what the hell were they expecting from a short address?


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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 08:54 PM
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89. Should have set up a specific fund to aid Gulf marine life. People want to help. And aren't being
asked to do so.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:01 AM
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96. +1. Look at how much Americans helped after Haiti Quake. n/t
Edited on Thu Jun-17-10 09:01 AM by Statistical
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