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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:56 AM Original message |
The sexualization of girls and mental health problems |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
1. K & R |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. I wouldn't limit it to American culture in particular. |
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Betty Karlson (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 04:29 AM Response to Reply #11 |
89. Japan has long ago accepted a link between |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
2. Girls, and their clothing are FAR too sexualized. Even as athletes: Olympic 'beach' vollyball, etc |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 05:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
42. I could not agree more! |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 06:01 AM Response to Reply #2 |
90. Yeah, I've never understood that |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 10:25 AM Response to Reply #90 |
107. Exactly. When men and women are doing the exact same activities & their clothes are so different |
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pscot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:46 PM Response to Reply #107 |
136. 10 |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
3. + a bazillion |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
4. recommend |
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ceile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
5. Thanks for posting |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
6. K&R |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
7. As a parent of two girls... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. It really is ubiquitous. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Disney Channel? |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:18 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. It's a "tween diva" assembly line... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:21 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. No, I'm aware of that. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:31 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. my niece older than my boys, is here lots. she would have that garbage on. just the whole way |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 08:27 AM Response to Reply #18 |
98. In addition, it's Disney's over-hype of the Princess type. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. as a parent of two boys, |
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Dawson Leery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. The Disney Channel is fairly clean, with only two exceptions |
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LibertyLover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 08:50 AM Response to Reply #7 |
101. As the mother of an 8 year old daughter |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:45 PM Response to Reply #101 |
131. I've never noticed anything weird on iCarly. |
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LibertyLover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #131 |
140. My husband is the child's primary caregiver and stays home with her |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 08:38 AM Response to Reply #131 |
180. My daughters watch iCarly because the two girls are not vapid oversexualized idiots. |
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callous taoboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #7 |
121. I had never seen Miley before the video you posted, CoffeeCat. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #121 |
127. You just reminded me... |
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callous taoboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 05:35 PM Response to Reply #127 |
156. Maybe it should be called, "Forever 16." |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 04:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
152. That is really disturbing. I am now wondering about her relationship with her father. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 07:26 AM Response to Reply #7 |
174. I feel for you |
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nyc 4 Biden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
8. k&r |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
10. "Sexualization" of women is profitable for large corporations. |
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TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
14. The single biggest offender when it comes to sexualisation of the human female... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:55 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. This isn't just about clothes. Women are free to dress as they like. |
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TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 03:30 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. As crystal. Women are free to dress as they please in order to... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:17 PM Response to Reply #25 |
65. Lots of undesirable, damaging, counterproductive primitive behavior is "in our genes". |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 06:48 AM Response to Reply #65 |
172. It is interesting how flawed men attribute their individual weaknesses |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 09:23 AM Response to Reply #172 |
184. For me what's really interesting is how few other men say shit about it! |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 08:32 AM Response to Reply #25 |
100. So it's OK to objectify women if they're in a "gentleman's" (HA!) club? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 12:37 PM Response to Reply #100 |
193. Yes. Everyone should be able to strip and pole dance without |
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pscot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:51 PM Response to Reply #25 |
139. This is nothing but blame shifting |
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wolfgangmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 05:04 PM Response to Reply #25 |
154. Oh puhlease. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 06:46 AM Response to Reply #25 |
171. Nothing is "programmed into your genes" |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. wow... and i made it ALL the way thru without exploding. really, |
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TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 03:51 PM Response to Reply #16 |
26. Sarcasm aside. You actually do have it in a nutshell. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 04:59 PM Response to Reply #26 |
39. i dont buy that. merely an animal with ability to say no. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:00 PM Response to Reply #39 |
120. Our culture has |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:13 PM Response to Reply #120 |
126. except i dont buy that either. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:36 PM Response to Reply #126 |
129. Blame the Patriarchy.... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:41 PM Response to Reply #129 |
130. it is what |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:54 PM Response to Reply #26 |
133. Men do not have an 'inner' cave-man |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:23 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. I see that you've edited your post to absolve the media ("some of the message"?) |
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TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 04:06 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. The media can not be held responsible for behaviour that has been... |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
82. Astute insights, Madmonk |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 06:26 AM Response to Reply #14 |
91. "Whether or not women are "territory" is a whole 'nother argument" what a moronic statement |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 11:33 AM Response to Reply #91 |
112. And precisely WHY are the mean girls doing it for men? |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 07:53 AM Response to Reply #112 |
176. the mean girls go along to get along, and the nice girls let it slide because the odds are stacked |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 11:50 AM Response to Reply #14 |
117. If you |
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TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 01:46 AM Response to Reply #117 |
169. No, I am saying it is exactly those nasty male attributes which created... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 09:19 AM Response to Reply #169 |
183. Who's jumping up and down and demanding? |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 12:12 PM Response to Reply #169 |
192. I doubt if you have |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
21. I say again: girls should learn martial arts starting in third grade. |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
23. K to the R! |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
24. "I just read a blog post bemoaning the fact that there's no T&A on display at soccer games" |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
27. I wear dresses that I think make me attractive |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 04:34 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. my niece wears a too small, low cut to the nipple tshirt, with a push up and out bra |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 04:42 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Well, you know my story. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 04:49 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. damn, woman, you are right on. it isnt about not being sexual and not enjoying sex |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 06:07 PM Response to Reply #37 |
50. I meant to post about my weekend |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:00 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. No! No! No!".... |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:24 PM Response to Reply #51 |
66. Why are men so terrified to see their daughters and sisters have sex lives? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:29 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. again, this is part of the virgin/whore that even our fathers teach us, and certainly |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:53 PM Response to Reply #68 |
77. I absolutely hear you and agree |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:20 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. really |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 08:16 AM Response to Reply #66 |
95. Part of the patriarchal society--women being seen as possessions. nt |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 11:35 AM Response to Reply #95 |
113. It's easier to just philosophize over the sexualization of females rather than patriarchy |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 11:57 AM Response to Reply #113 |
119. Thank you..... |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:03 PM Response to Reply #119 |
122. I'm outta time for DU today but I believe that you and I posted our rants about patriarchy |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #122 |
124. Peace to you as well..... |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 09:39 AM Response to Reply #66 |
103. You don't think that this response might be related to the incest taboo? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 10:03 AM Response to Reply #103 |
105. and are the women and sisters feeling the same concern for the brothers and sons? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 11:16 AM Response to Reply #105 |
108. Male and female sexuality is not interchangeable, so a counter-example |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 11:31 AM Response to Reply #108 |
111. it doesnt disprove or prove. the point of my post is, there is nothing to suggest |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:12 PM Response to Reply #111 |
134. Picking a nit: people who say "there is no evidence", when they mean "I'm not convinced" |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:47 PM Response to Reply #134 |
137. women being more selective does not suggest male being more watchful. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 04:42 PM Response to Reply #137 |
151. You are really swimming upstream if you seek to explain away the incest taboo with "patriarchy" |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 05:03 PM Response to Reply #151 |
153. i didn't know we were talking incest. ???? |
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callous taoboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 05:40 PM Response to Reply #66 |
157. I think one of the issues here is that this isn't fostering a well-rounded person... |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 07:59 PM Response to Reply #66 |
163. This certainly suggests that the problem of sexualization of teen girls isn't the fault of dads. n/t |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 08:25 PM Response to Reply #163 |
165. Who suggested that sexualization of teen girls was the fault of dads? (nt) |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 04:45 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. It's hard to escape the conclusion |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. and you are right there, too. nt |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
29. I agree with the problem, but we clearly disagree about the cause. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 04:40 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. told you before, say it again. pta middle school talking about emotional wellness for teenage girls |
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RadiationTherapy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
30. Pop music as well. The constant sexual barrage is disturbing. I have been thinking about you |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 06:22 PM Response to Reply #30 |
160. ITA the current 'music' is mostly raw sex |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
32. Isn't there a difference between women and girls |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:26 PM Response to Reply #32 |
67. Yes, this OP is about girls. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
35. I noticed it even on Hell's Kitchen last night |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
40. Remember the threads regarding Olympic women's beach volleyball? |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
41. hmmm... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 05:37 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. i dont think there would be nearly the issue of the adult womens chest if grown men didnt revert |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 05:46 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. lol |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:02 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. no. because men like to behave this way, and conditioned society is reinforcing it for them |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:08 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. You can ease up on the hostility |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:12 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. not hostile. girls/women reality. nt |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:21 AM Response to Reply #61 |
87. Nevermind |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 05:49 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. The American obsession with boobs... |
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nomorenomore08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 05:56 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Exactly! |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:03 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. tits are all over the place, day in day out, 24/7, every part of our life. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:04 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. You were one of the people complaining about the Janet Jackson half time video... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:06 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. no. nt |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:08 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Yet you're complaining about all that smut on the Disney Channel. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:13 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. no, that is not what i was discussing. nt |
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nomorenomore08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:17 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. I guess the point is that extremes are bad, one way or the other. |
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Threedifferentones (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 06:45 AM Response to Reply #54 |
93. Men get worse? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 07:12 AM Response to Reply #93 |
94. Well said! It is definitely not about what women choose to wear. (nt) |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 08:28 AM Response to Reply #93 |
99. yes |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 09:56 AM Response to Reply #99 |
104. Good point. |
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geardaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 11:40 AM Response to Reply #104 |
114. or the F word. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:04 PM Response to Reply #114 |
123. exactly. yes. and right on. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:02 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. bullshit. nt |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:34 PM Response to Reply #46 |
80. You mean the American obsession with boobs on the "right" kind of women. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 02:57 PM Response to Reply #46 |
196. Post hoc ergo prompter hoc. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 06:03 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. It won't change until penises are featured in tight clothing |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:06 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. one of the greatest con of all time. the male body is ugly. the female body... a work of art |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:39 PM Response to Reply #56 |
70. "the male body is ugly. the female body... a work of art" |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:40 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. i understand. now, have you ever heard this being said. i have heard often on du |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:43 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. oh yes |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 11:23 AM Response to Reply #49 |
109. I believe it is penii. Re: the OP |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:41 PM Response to Reply #41 |
72. "the chest of an adult woman is a horror that must be hidden at all times" |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:45 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. chucklin... that is funny. "used to sell everything from hell to breakfast" nt |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:17 AM Response to Reply #72 |
86. Your OP mentioned world cup soccer games. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 06:34 AM Response to Reply #86 |
92. No, not nudity. Objectification does not require nudity. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 11:28 AM Response to Reply #92 |
110. Oh, I see. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 11:44 AM Response to Reply #110 |
116. Oh no no... I'm no fan... |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
44. I'm clear. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:11 PM Response to Reply #44 |
60. story. well developed 11 yr old niece, thought she was still a kid. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:34 PM Response to Reply #60 |
69. That's my entire childhood, from 10-11 yrs on, in a nutshell. nt |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 08:05 AM Response to Reply #60 |
177. Oh god that's so creepy. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 09:25 AM Response to Reply #177 |
185. I grew up thinking that was normal. |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 08:22 AM Response to Reply #44 |
96. You and me both, sister! I too grew up without a father figure, brother, male family members |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 11:35 AM Response to Reply #96 |
190. It certainly left me with permanent scars. |
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nomorenomore08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
47. It just boggles my mind how a society can be simultaneously so sexually repressed |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:15 PM Response to Reply #47 |
63. it boggles, but it makes sense too. you have two extremes. our females are virgin/whore. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:44 PM Response to Reply #63 |
74. Exactly. It makes perfect sense. (nt) |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:52 PM Response to Reply #47 |
132. What are some societies which are not? |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 03:34 PM Response to Reply #132 |
142. Your examples are continent wide, in areas very much westernized (and colonized) |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 05:05 PM Response to Reply #142 |
155. Typical noble savage bs. |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 06:13 PM Response to Reply #155 |
159. Religious patriarchal bullshit isn't just a white man's issue. |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 08:12 AM Response to Reply #159 |
178. Ever hear of the Yamamano? |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
76. It's not about sexuality it's about perception and treatment of women |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
79. I suspect the worst is the unhealthy competition aspect. |
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nomorenomore08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 09:15 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Yep. |
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Shanti Mama (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
83. OF CEO'S AND CORPORATE "HO'S" |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:28 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. this deserves its own thread. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 10:10 AM Response to Reply #83 |
106. Fascinating read. |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
84. Agreed...Particularly when people are STILL ambivalent |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:10 AM Response to Original message |
88. We have a bit of a problem, culturally |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
97. Madison Avenue and Hollywood are to thank for that. Sex sells. |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
102. Link: American Psychological Association Task Force Report On Sexualization Of Girls: |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
115. What a great article.... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #115 |
118. Isn't it? |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:06 PM Response to Reply #118 |
125. I just went back to the |
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Lost4words (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
128. K & R |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:42 PM Response to Reply #128 |
135. This thread is chock full of oversimplification... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:51 PM Response to Reply #135 |
138. Your reply is too vague to address. |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 03:48 PM Response to Reply #138 |
144. Lots of people seem to be looking for one root cause... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 03:50 PM Response to Reply #144 |
145. Blame is not the focus. I think the defensiveness is misplaced. (nt) |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 04:00 PM Response to Reply #145 |
146. Defensiveness of what? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 04:14 PM Response to Reply #146 |
148. I disagree. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 08:06 PM Response to Reply #145 |
164. The logical step after identifying the problem, is identifying the cause. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 08:33 PM Response to Reply #164 |
166. False dichotomy. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 04:03 PM Response to Reply #144 |
147. i see it as a whole lot of conditioning of two genders. hurts both genders. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 04:15 PM Response to Reply #147 |
149. Exactly... it's the way both genders are conditioned to relate to each other. |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 04:39 PM Response to Reply #147 |
150. You seem to always get pissed off at suggestions... |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 06:31 PM Response to Reply #150 |
161. I'm not pissed off at your theory but I don't agree that biology looks like the answer |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 07:49 PM Response to Reply #161 |
162. I think you have to start with individual behavior, which shows strong... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 08:37 PM Response to Reply #150 |
167. I don't think it induces anger so much as frustration. |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 09:30 PM Response to Reply #167 |
168. I have heard people, not necessarily in this thread... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 06:38 AM Response to Reply #168 |
170. Why heavy-handed religious norms? |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 07:47 AM Response to Reply #170 |
175. I'm talking about what I've seen in practice... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 09:14 AM Response to Reply #175 |
182. I can see people responding in a strongly negative way, yes. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 08:34 AM Response to Reply #168 |
179. it is not sexual prowess, it is ability to dehumanize. |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 09:11 AM Response to Reply #179 |
181. Interesting info, but is this just extra info... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 09:46 AM Response to Reply #181 |
186. you are talking about evolutionary behavior and biology |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 10:07 AM Response to Reply #186 |
187. I don't see how what you posted says anything for or against... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 10:20 AM Response to Reply #187 |
188. here is another study. men cant remember their names when looking at womans boobs |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 11:44 AM Response to Reply #188 |
191. But why would breasts command so much attention? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 01:13 PM Response to Reply #191 |
194. evolutionary behaviorists have create a caricature, cartoon of male. |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 02:25 PM Response to Reply #194 |
195. So basically this comes down to... |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #135 |
141. If you had to live it, as we do, you'd understand better. nt |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 03:42 PM Response to Reply #135 |
143. Heh . DU at it's finest. A meandering message board of non-sequitors |
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Old Troop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
158. As a dad of two (grown) daughters, I think the whole thing is horrible. |
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chillspike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 06:51 AM Response to Original message |
173. Has anyone ever thought that perhaps it's our view of sex |
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okieinpain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
189. on a lot of this it's women leading the charge. n/t. |
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