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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 02:59 PM
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87Yr Old Grandma Dies After Being Tasered By Police
Edited on Fri Jul-09-10 03:06 PM by Parche
BORING, Ore. -- An 87-year-old woman was tased by deputies after they said she was threatening them with a gun, and she later died at the hospital.

The Clackamas Co. Sheriff's Office said the woman had a gun and was threatening a man working on a water line nearby at around 2:30 p.m. Thursday. When deputies arrived to the mobile home park on SE Leewood Ln. , they said she threatened them with a gun, so they used tasers to subdue her.

After the suspect was tased, deputies said she became unconscious and unreponsive, and they began to adminster CPR. She was taken to the hospital by ambulance, where she later died about an hour later.

Det. Jim Strovink said the woman was recently released from the hospital, and pre-existing medical problems may have contributed to her death. Strovink said the woman may have also been suffering from a mental condition during Thursday's incident.

The woman's name is not being released, pending the notification of her family members. An autopsy is scheduled to determine her exact cause of death.

The deputies involved in the incident will be placed on administrative leave during the investigation, which is being assisted in part by the Inter-Agency Major Crimes team at the request of the Sheriff's Office.






http://www.kgw.com/news/local/80-year-old-suspect-Tased-later-dies-at-hospital-98083774.html

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Theres nothing boring about Boring Oregon

:shrug::shrug::hi:

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 03:02 PM
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1. In before some idiot posts "If only she'd had a real gun, she'd still be alive!"
Edited on Fri Jul-09-10 03:03 PM by slackmaster
:nuke:
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 03:17 PM
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10. if only she didn't have a gun she'd still be alive
:evilgrin:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 03:02 PM
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2. Parche, I love you, but please edit your post
Edited on Fri Jul-09-10 03:05 PM by LostinVA
The rofl laughing, etc. smileys are in extremely bad taste in a post about this woman's death.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 03:07 PM
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5. so true
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 03:12 PM
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7. HOT!
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 03:15 PM
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8. you have always been .....'Hot'
:woohoo::woohoo::hug::hug::hug:

:hi:

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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 03:29 PM
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12. I hate that ROFL smiley, really its the worst one by far!
we need one where the rofl is being smashed by a large shoe. If DU really wants a calm down, dump that annoying piece of insulting garbage.

PLEASE
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 03:44 PM
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15. I think a smiling like that would be funny!
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 03:03 PM
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3. Hard to call this one
If she was waving a gun, they were within police rights to use deadly force.

It it's determined she had no gun, then they should be brought up on manslaughter charges. While some of those 87 year old crazy ladies can display amazing strength, they're no match for a couple of burly cops no matter what.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 03:03 PM
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4. I wonder if she had any family
Sounds like she had some mental problems and should have been nowhere near a gun.

Sad story.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 03:15 PM
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9. They're waiting to release her name
They're waiting to release her name, pending notification of relatives. That sounds like she didn't have local family in her support system. But, since this is the United States, she had a gun, so that she could end her days on the business end of a hand-held torture device. God bless America.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 03:08 PM
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6. "Mental condition with a gun"
:banghead:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 03:18 PM
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11. The mentally ill have a right to defend themselves, you know.
:sarcasm:


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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 03:32 PM
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13. She questioned their authority, she had to die.
end of story......
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 04:01 PM
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18. It wasn't questioning authority
that got her killed. It was threatening people with a gun. I doubt the water guy posed any threat to her.
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 08:06 AM
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22. I suspect it was a mental health problem, she didnt deserve death!
Edited on Sun Jul-11-10 08:07 AM by Lost4words
is death the only way we can deal with conflict?? She was in distress a Human alone. Humanity can do better than this!
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ManiacJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 02:01 PM
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24. Thus they did not try to kill her.
Had the cops wanted to kill her they would have used their sidearms instead of the taser.
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27inCali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 03:35 PM
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14. one more example of cops acting like cowboys, not protectors
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 03:45 PM
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16. How so?
Edited on Fri Jul-09-10 03:50 PM by Wickerman
From what I read here she was threatening a worker with a gun. Cops came out to protect him, she posed a threat and they used deadly force, albeit a stepped down, supposedly non-lethal means to subdue her.

I think the whole situation is really, really awful, I'm just not certain we have enough information to say the cops were acting as cowboys.

edit, I seem to have missed a few vowels. :eyes:
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 03:59 PM
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17. Yikes! I thought this was about the woman in Oklahoma!
thought maybe she died in the hospital.

Instead, it turns out it's open season on octogenarian grannies nationwide. :eyes:
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 04:14 PM
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19. I know. Fearsome bunch, those old ladies
I wonder how the woman in OK is doing after her tasing.

You know, if they had been close enough to taser the woman, wouldn't they have been close enough to take the gun away?
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ManiacJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 04:35 PM
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20. Not close enough.
The taser has a range of 20-35 feet. Disarming would require contact distances. That would be very bad tactics against a person with a gun.
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 05:33 PM
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21. What ever happened to mace
I don't recall any one dead from mace. Most of the taser cases would have been appropriate for mace. Less lethal, but probably not as much fun to shoot.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 08:14 AM
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23. I wonder why they equivocated with the vague phrase "threatened with a gun"?
If she pointed a gun, she should have been rightfully shot. Lethal force would be called for if she really had been brandishing a gun,

The vague phrasing makes me wonder if she wasn't simply verbally threatening them (i.e "Get out of here or I'll shoot you", etc.)

Using only a taser when a gun is pointed at you would be a lack of proper procedure.

Using a taser on an 87 year old for "threatening" verbally would be using too much force.

Sounds to me like it might be an airbrushed statement designed to obfuscate.
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