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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:00 PM Original message |
58 or under? Your Social Security is getting cut |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
1. 59 here, but still not breathing easily. Simpson is not alone; his co-chair, Erskine Bowles |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Really? What did I write that's not correct? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:36 AM Response to Reply #3 |
192. The title of the post. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 11:47 AM Response to Reply #192 |
220. No, no bill has been introduced. But why hasn't it? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #220 |
278. Where do I stand? |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:24 PM Response to Reply #278 |
302. Good, so what will you do if the Obama administration |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 12:34 PM Response to Reply #302 |
330. I absolutely expect nothing of the sort will happen. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:44 PM Response to Reply #192 |
241. Pres Obama packed the Commission with corporatists, two are repukes |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:05 PM Response to Reply #192 |
296. Yeah, and when the bill *is* introduced, there'll be a thousand excuses for why it's so "pragmatic". |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:12 PM Response to Reply #296 |
297. Not from me there won't. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Changing the rules to take $70,000 out of our pockets |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:18 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. .....is not worthy of outrage? |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:25 AM Response to Reply #7 |
118. It would make us lesser people |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 04:00 PM Response to Reply #118 |
280. The bottom 95% ARE "Lesser People" in the USA. |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:05 AM Response to Reply #7 |
180. It's just an inconvienent truth |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
38. nothing manufactured about my anger over this duplicitous farce. |
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Lost4words (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:53 PM Response to Reply #38 |
77. New Democrats,...... nt |
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Lost4words (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
74. you never use another emoticon do you |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:52 AM Response to Reply #74 |
103. +100 |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:09 PM Response to Reply #74 |
275. Can only imagine who that was! |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
18. Translation = |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:29 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. translation = preemptive horseshit |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:31 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. I'm still waiting for your list of my inaccurate statements |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:34 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. You began with "IF" and the rest is pure speculation of the "be vewy afwaid" variety. nt |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:38 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. If you think it is just speculation you have not been reading the words |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:40 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Random quotes do not a policy make. You are constructing a boogyman. nt |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:45 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. It's been a long time, AK. |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:55 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. Wait, what insult? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:49 PM Response to Reply #25 |
43. and simpson began with a pack of lies to drum up fear: "the chinese will hold our debt!" |
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CLANG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:38 AM Response to Reply #43 |
193. Is "raising the cap" off the table... Dumb question! |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:56 PM Response to Reply #25 |
47. Do you not know how things work? |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 02:20 AM Response to Reply #47 |
112. Random quotes and opinion pieces are being used to construct a boogyman. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:36 AM Response to Reply #21 |
191. the "over $70,000" part is not accurate |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 10:34 AM Response to Reply #191 |
207. SSA says no. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:18 PM Response to Reply #207 |
231. it's way too low if you are earning the "maximum taxable amount" |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:07 AM Response to Reply #20 |
183. It's truly sad to watch personality trump truth. n/t |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #183 |
226. Speculation isn't truth. It's a parlor game at DU. nt |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
22. No, it is true. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:36 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Speculation isn't truth. It's chewing cud and freaking out preemptively. nt |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:39 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Whoa, that was not very nice. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:41 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Only you could personalize something that has nothing to do with you. nt |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:43 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. You responded to me. And that was not a nice response either. |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 11:58 PM Response to Reply #27 |
86. It's called a warning. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:36 AM Response to Reply #27 |
95. yes, best to wait until it's too late to do anything. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:29 AM Response to Reply #95 |
122. As with health care reform. nt |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 09:58 AM Response to Reply #95 |
203. +100 |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:28 AM Response to Reply #27 |
120. The time to freak out is before |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:44 PM Response to Reply #120 |
240. We have to pay attention and yell loudly or else we will be screwed |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 01:42 PM Response to Reply #240 |
262. That's what I mean. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:15 PM Response to Reply #27 |
298. Only the truly naive could fail to read this kind of writing on the wall. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 09:17 PM Response to Reply #298 |
314. Sure thing. As soon as you stop being so knee jerk. |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 04:28 AM Response to Reply #314 |
327. When the speculation in this thread comes to fruition |
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Spike from MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 09:11 AM Response to Reply #298 |
329. Then there's the ever-popular |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:40 PM Response to Reply #27 |
305. "Preemptively?" |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
41. Not to mention the blatant repuke fear tactic. n/t |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 02:16 AM Response to Reply #41 |
110. It's pure speculation and fear-mongering. nt |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
62. I would like to ask you, just what the hell do you think this commission |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:12 AM Response to Reply #62 |
186. The poster is more worried about defending Obama then looking at the truth |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 10:55 AM Response to Reply #186 |
212. that seems apparent. nt |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:04 PM Response to Reply #186 |
225. What truth? That something might/might not happen? |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:48 PM Response to Reply #225 |
247. I'll do that Kitty. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:52 PM Response to Reply #247 |
250. It is you trying to peddle speculation as truth. nt |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 11:37 AM Response to Reply #62 |
217. I'm 57... |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:49 PM Response to Reply #62 |
249. Some still hang on to the belief that Democrats wont screw you. |
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burnsei sensei (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 05:20 PM Response to Reply #62 |
289. It's stocked with politicians, |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:31 AM Response to Reply #2 |
94. Paul Krugman doesn't think so, neither does James Galbraith. Do |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:31 AM Response to Reply #94 |
124. There will be no more questions to |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #124 |
271. We are at least a lot less trusting this time. We don't have to wait |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 04:10 AM Response to Reply #271 |
326. Your approach is sound. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:36 AM Response to Reply #94 |
125. Awesome post. nt |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:38 AM Response to Reply #94 |
166. The party of FDR has been gone a long time. |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 10:43 AM Response to Reply #166 |
209. 'What are we going to do about it is the only thing we need to talk about at this point.' |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 02:49 PM Response to Reply #166 |
272. Agreed, I guess I was hoping that after the Bush years with a Dem |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
5. I'll take credit for Rec #5, just so everyone knows it got at least that high |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. Thanks Stinky, I'm honored |
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puzzlingpond (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:24 PM Response to Reply #17 |
61. I gave |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:27 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. Welcome to DU!!! |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 11:59 PM Response to Reply #5 |
87. I'll raise you to 55! |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
6. From the time I started working, I've always saved as if SS wouldn't be there when I retired.... |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:17 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Aren't you really pissed that this is happening? |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:21 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. After 20 years of accepting it as a fait accompli, I'm not pissed anymore. I don't have it in me... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:34 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. We planned our retirement as well, but I hate to see Soc. Sec. harmed. |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 09:18 PM Response to Reply #24 |
315. But it is all about **ME** right? As long as I am ok to hell wth the elderly poor? |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:22 AM Response to Reply #14 |
162. Same here |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:26 PM Response to Reply #14 |
303. I saved all through the 80s and 90s too |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 09:22 PM Response to Reply #303 |
316. You just explained why MOST countries have an elderly pension system |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. that's great but some people don't make enough to save more than a few dollars a month |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
242. Exactly right, especially in this economy. n/t |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:48 PM Response to Reply #6 |
42. You may not require anything in life for your taxes. |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 09:24 PM Response to Reply #42 |
318. Thank God there are still a few liberals out there who understand compassion |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
45. Horseshit. Boomers prepaid their retirement with the Reagan FICA increases |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:40 AM Response to Reply #45 |
127. +1 nt |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:58 AM Response to Reply #45 |
176. +1000 |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:15 PM Response to Reply #6 |
55. The baby boomers have not caused the system to be unsustainable. We paid in enough to support our |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:41 AM Response to Reply #55 |
128. +1 nt |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #55 |
222. When are we |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:18 AM Response to Reply #6 |
91. But Social Security is sustainable |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:42 AM Response to Reply #91 |
129. +1 nt |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:39 AM Response to Reply #6 |
96. The system IS sustainable. There is no question of it being unsustainable. It's being DELIBERATELY |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:42 AM Response to Reply #96 |
130. Exactly. nt |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:46 PM Response to Reply #96 |
244. Hannah, you are a hero. I hope you teach the politicians. n/t |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:39 AM Response to Reply #6 |
126. Some don't have the option |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 02:57 PM Response to Reply #6 |
274. The system is NOT unsustainable, far from it. That is a rightwing |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
8. They are scutlling Medicare as well! |
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nightrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
29. thank you for posting that. Incredible that Dems are considering dropping the safety net for so |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:43 AM Response to Reply #8 |
131. And no talk of tax cuts for the |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
11. I thought SS was theThird Rail of politics? |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:26 AM Response to Reply #11 |
190. Predatory and libertarian economic theory has replaced it. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-10 12:47 PM Response to Reply #11 |
336. It was for Bush. They decided that they needed to get a Democrat |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
12. well if they're moving the retirement age to 70, there should be some JOBS out there for seniors |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:20 PM Response to Reply #12 |
59. That's what so diabolical about it |
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era veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 05:31 AM Response to Reply #59 |
151. Learned it from the VA, dead citizens are cheaper |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 09:55 AM Response to Reply #151 |
202. Thank you for the good wishes. The same to you. nt |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
15. Unrec-ers swooping in... |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:22 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. I didn't unrec you, Manny.... I just can't build up the outrage that you have here |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:33 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. You are not outraged over billions for war but cuts for older folks? |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:14 AM Response to Reply #23 |
160. I am too |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:03 AM Response to Reply #160 |
177. GW tried this and couldn't get it done. Never expected this from a Democratic admin. either. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:47 PM Response to Reply #177 |
246. Well begin expecting it. There are a lot of Demo corporatist sell-outs. nm |
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Poboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:46 PM Response to Reply #177 |
307. Indeed. We are being attacked by those we elected to defend us. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:13 PM Response to Reply #16 |
53. Some people only feel outrage |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:49 AM Response to Reply #16 |
133. The incredible waste |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:45 AM Response to Reply #15 |
132. They can't tolerate anything |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:04 AM Response to Reply #132 |
178. +1. nt |
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unkachuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
19. K&R....n/t |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
26. The current unreduced retirement age for someone 58 is now |
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virgogal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:43 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. I'm one of tjose that has lived too long. Cheers !!!!!! |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:52 PM Response to Reply #26 |
44. As I read my yearly SS statement ...I get full benefits at age 70. They start at 66. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:52 AM Response to Reply #26 |
134. Don't think they haven't considered it. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #134 |
224. I think about that. |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
30. This guy should be on the commission: |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:58 AM Response to Reply #30 |
136. I agree, Galbraith could inject some |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 10:23 PM Response to Reply #30 |
323. great article. must read, imo. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:41 PM Response to Original message |
33. k&r - kill this stupid commission now. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:59 AM Response to Reply #33 |
137. Yes, just kill it. |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
39. Ahhhhh, no. You really need to change your title, because it's not true. |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:03 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. Where have you seen raising the cap floated? |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:10 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Several of the members support raising the cap and have |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:11 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Any links? |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:27 PM Response to Reply #52 |
65. Try Googling the individual members names + Social Security. |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:52 PM Response to Reply #51 |
75. In your opinion it's not outrageous enough. |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:06 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. Wrong. The thing to do is to ignore your "advice" |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:20 PM Response to Reply #50 |
60. Fine. Get outraged over something that has not happened |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:26 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. We should wait until the damage is complete? |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:36 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. No, you should wait and see what they actually recommend. Then |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:07 PM Response to Reply #69 |
227. You are aware of simpson's |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:37 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. No, you should wait and see what they actually recommend. Then |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 01:09 AM Response to Reply #70 |
105. no, YOU wait and see. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 04:03 AM Response to Reply #105 |
139. +1 nt |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:15 AM Response to Reply #64 |
90. Commissions are for cowards. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:29 AM Response to Reply #90 |
121. +100. It's how the first attack on social security under reagan went in. |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:41 PM Response to Reply #60 |
71. Again, you fail to point out that it was Obama who designed it to be a bipartisan committee |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:18 AM Response to Reply #60 |
161. If you wait until it happens it'll already be too late. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #60 |
251. The commission is stacked against the working people. The Pres did us no favors. |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 01:15 AM Response to Reply #50 |
106. Obama appointed the commission by his EXECUTIVE ORDER, against the will of Congress. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:31 AM Response to Reply #106 |
123. i didn't know that. wow. his initiative. |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 04:13 AM Response to Reply #123 |
144. Yes. It's amazing that that fact isn't stressed enough and most people are not aware of it. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 04:20 AM Response to Reply #144 |
147. taking it from that budget i'd guess removes the necessity for congress to vote funds. wow again. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 04:02 AM Response to Reply #50 |
138. Thank you. nt |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:42 AM Response to Reply #39 |
98. "a very high hurdle" - lame duck session, thanks to pelosi. not so high. |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
40. Fear! ...it's a repuke tactic! I don't believe it will happen. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:14 PM Response to Reply #40 |
54. A cowardly nation heavily dependent on resources from abroad will never reduce defense spending |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 04:06 AM Response to Reply #40 |
140. What about the terrists? |
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voteearlyvoteoften (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
48. Um they have already raised the retirement age |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:17 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. My age group is at the 67 range. |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:21 AM Response to Reply #56 |
92. I'm at the 66 point |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 04:09 AM Response to Reply #92 |
141. Apparently corporate government |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:26 PM Response to Reply #48 |
63. Yes. I'm 55 and my age for full benefits is 66 & 2 mos. nt |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:55 AM Response to Reply #63 |
174. Correction: "was 66 & 2 mos" |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 04:16 AM Response to Reply #48 |
145. Deleted message |
MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:04 AM Response to Reply #145 |
158. Got evidence of that? |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 11:02 AM Response to Reply #158 |
213. Just idle speculation.. sorry if I'm wrong.. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #213 |
221. So you issued that personal attack based on nothing? |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:37 AM Response to Reply #145 |
165. That's rich coming from the person advocating for a Republican. n/t |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 11:08 AM Response to Reply #165 |
214. Oh dear, not you again.. you sure are persistent... I would never ever advocate for a Republican.. |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 08:28 AM Response to Reply #214 |
328. Rationalize it all you want but you're advocating for Crist and Crist |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:56 PM Response to Reply #145 |
253. That's a pretty serious accusation. Can you back it up? nm |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:44 PM Response to Reply #145 |
306. Alerted. Or you can delete it yourself. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 09:29 PM Response to Reply #306 |
320. Thank you. n/t |
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hay rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
57. Commissions are good. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:29 PM Response to Reply #57 |
67. Good for floating balloons especially. |
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jeanpalmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:25 AM Response to Reply #57 |
93. A commission on healthcare |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:47 AM Response to Reply #93 |
102. Well said! Excellent post! |
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jeanpalmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 02:17 AM Response to Reply #102 |
111. Thank you. n/t |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 04:12 AM Response to Reply #93 |
143. Yes, we wouldn't want to |
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hay rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 05:58 AM Response to Reply #93 |
152. Job creation commission! |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:46 PM Response to Reply #93 |
245. #1,000,000. n/t |
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susanwy (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:36 PM Response to Reply #93 |
304. +100000 |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 04:11 AM Response to Reply #57 |
142. Reasonable commissions could |
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Bryn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
58. K&R |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
68. And upthread this is being called "manufactured outrage" |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:53 PM Response to Reply #68 |
76. What are you going to say when |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:59 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Then we will say, "Thank gawd we raised a ruckus before they tried to get away with that shit." |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 11:10 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Sounds like |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 11:28 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. You wanna trust those people, go ahead. I don't. Not for one minute. nt |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:49 AM Response to Reply #80 |
172. Oh please, spare us the disingenuous clap trap. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:48 PM Response to Reply #80 |
308. I'd say it's simply using your good sense and powers of observation. |
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20score (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 11:54 PM Response to Reply #76 |
85. How about we turn that around. What will you say when the people who have been right |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:44 AM Response to Reply #85 |
100. not a goddamn thing. off to the memory hole, as usual. never to be mentioned again. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:02 AM Response to Reply #76 |
115. Didn't you say something like this about the Public Option? I am sure you will defend |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:49 PM Response to Reply #115 |
309. She and many others. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:22 PM Response to Reply #76 |
300. What are you going to say when they do? |
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on point (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
72. The easy fix is to raise the cut-off income level of the tax to 200K. |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
73. Does simpson not understand the difference between lifespan and life expectancy? |
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hay rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:40 AM Response to Reply #73 |
97. Huge difference, actually. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:55 AM Response to Reply #73 |
104. Life expectancy of someone who was 65 in 1940, the first year regular benefits were paid, = 12.8. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:56 AM Response to Reply #73 |
135. I've got slightly different numbers for life expectancy from age 65 |
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cornermouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 04:47 AM Response to Reply #135 |
148. I wouldn't know. |
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Alameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
79. Social Security has already been cut. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 04:17 AM Response to Reply #79 |
146. Just as they are being sneaky this time. |
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tex-wyo-dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
82. Simpson needs to crawl back under the cow patty from whence he came... |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
83. worked all my life. Paid in, and employers paid in. Won't live to see a dime |
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KeyWester (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 06:50 AM Response to Reply #83 |
157. So ... |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 04:17 PM Response to Reply #157 |
284. No, won't live long enought to even reach eligibility |
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20score (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
84. Thanks for posting. K&R |
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senseandsensibility (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:04 AM Response to Original message |
88. kand r |
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OmahaBlueDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
89. I'll get flamed: I don't see the problem |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:32 AM Response to Reply #89 |
163. Almost no one lives that long |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:50 PM Response to Reply #89 |
310. Well, from someone called "bluedog" that's not surprising. n/t |
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lib2DaBone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:43 AM Response to Original message |
99. It's not fear.. they are coming for Social Security... I wish it was just a fear tactic.. |
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lifesbeautifulmagic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:45 AM Response to Original message |
101. I don't understand why the outrage |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 01:23 AM Response to Reply #101 |
107. +1 |
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SILVER__FOX52 (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 01:55 AM Response to Original message |
108. What the fuck is going on in this Country? |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 02:04 AM Response to Original message |
109. Why is Homer's brother on this commission to begin with? Why not appoint a true Nazi next time? |
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EmeraldCityGrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 02:23 AM Response to Original message |
113. To even suggest this is conformation they do not care about the |
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jtuck004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 02:35 AM Response to Original message |
114. k&r and thank you n.t. |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:02 AM Response to Original message |
116. There is this one little factor to remember |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:28 AM Response to Reply #116 |
119. exactly! what a quick way to have their opponent be elected. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:24 AM Response to Original message |
117. If the Democrats allow this, |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:49 PM Response to Reply #117 |
248. What will Obama veto? has he vetoed anything yet? n/t |
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RubyDuby in GA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 05:07 AM Response to Original message |
149. I came to the sad realization years ago that I will never see a dime of all that I put in |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 05:27 AM Response to Reply #149 |
150. only if you let them destroy it. |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 09:12 AM Response to Reply #150 |
198. how do we stop them? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 02:01 PM Response to Reply #198 |
264. what would you do if someone was trying to rob you? |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #198 |
279. The ballot box, perchance? |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:41 AM Response to Reply #149 |
168. And that makes it ok for them to steal our money? I'm still pissed as hell |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:23 AM Response to Reply #149 |
189. Buck up |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 09:59 AM Response to Reply #189 |
204. Lol! "Do not be lulled into paralysis by Vogon poetry." Thanks for that. nt |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 06:15 AM Response to Original message |
153. I've never expected to see any of it anyway. nt |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 06:22 AM Response to Original message |
154. What the fuck is the problem? |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 06:35 AM Response to Original message |
155. This is just an ADVISORY committee, so calm the hell down. These responses are really over the top. |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:41 AM Response to Reply #155 |
167. This things on greased rails - Pelosi's got the vote set |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:58 AM Response to Reply #167 |
175. FDL? Take that one with a HUGE grain of salt. Any real changes would go through a MASSIVE |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:43 AM Response to Reply #155 |
169. I'm going to bookmark this so I can bring it back after |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 06:45 AM Response to Original message |
156. America has completely gone to the dogs |
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peace frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:33 AM Response to Reply #156 |
164. Huge ITA here |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 09:00 AM Response to Reply #164 |
196. I've switched today from hope to cursing |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:05 AM Response to Original message |
159. Deleted message |
wuvuj (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
170. Currently round 2/3s of new SS recipients take an early retirement ... |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:45 AM Response to Reply #170 |
194. I took SS at agae 62. I did the math. |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
171. K&R |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:50 AM Response to Original message |
173. Rotten greedy a$$hole$! |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
179. Hate to tell you, but no body gets full retirement SS benefits at age 65 unless you were born prior |
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wuvuj (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
181. Extended unemployment payments and SS payments and the like... |
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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
182. To all those 50 something Tea Baggers - How's that working out for you - huh? You know the cuts to |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
184. What? You mean it was an elaborate shell game the whole time? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:11 AM Response to Original message |
185. So, what's the number of the bill that has been introduced? |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
187. Meh, I have long known that I would die at my desk. nt |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:20 PM Response to Reply #187 |
299. With the greatest respect, dying at your desk isnt the worst thing that could happen. |
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waronbanks (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
188. Ahh yes another kick in the testicles from democrats. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
195. I predict zero resistance |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 11:25 AM Response to Reply #195 |
216. You know, I've been thinking (and reading) about that "docility" phenomenon as well. |
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marketbreakaway (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
197. This Boomer Plans To Work Till He Dies |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 09:17 AM Response to Reply #197 |
199. Fight to raise the cap to $200,000 |
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LiberalEsto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
200. Oh, swell |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 10:06 AM Response to Reply #200 |
205. No ice floes. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
201. Of course it is. Those of us under 40 have always known that. Let me show you a graph of the problem |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 10:37 AM Response to Reply #201 |
208. 30 years of Regonomics! |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
206. Please wait for the secret commission to have its recommendations |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
210. Previous generations have had to go head to head |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
211. so wtf do they want us to do? |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
215. 61 here and counting on Social Security for part of retirement, BUT . . . . . |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
218. Just the title of the |
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Duhgee (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
219. I'm just a troll but.... |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:09 PM Response to Reply #219 |
228. "Social Security has about 2.4 trillion in these securities at the moment" |
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Duhgee (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #228 |
236. You are right, I worded that weakly. I should have said cash... |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:45 PM Response to Reply #236 |
243. Point being what? |
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Duhgee (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:59 PM Response to Reply #243 |
254. Point is we can't make payments with securities... |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 01:08 PM Response to Reply #254 |
257. When the cash out is to bond holders and war barrons |
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Duhgee (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 01:20 PM Response to Reply #257 |
260. I guess so |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #228 |
261. $2.4 trillion really isn't that much money in terms of SS's future. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:33 PM Response to Reply #219 |
234. Right wing lies. The money isnt "gone" it's invested in Treasury Bonds. GWBush claimed they |
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Duhgee (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:40 PM Response to Reply #234 |
238. again I apologize... |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 01:00 PM Response to Reply #238 |
255. They are as solid as cash. nm |
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Duhgee (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 01:14 PM Response to Reply #255 |
259. ok, you win |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 02:33 PM Response to Reply #259 |
267. And they pay interest. nm |
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ladywnch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
223. based on my SS statement, I haven't been eligible for retirement at 65 |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:10 PM Response to Reply #223 |
229. 67 for everyone born after 1960. Although you can get "early SS" at any age after 62. n/t |
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ladywnch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:25 PM Response to Reply #229 |
233. Or they just rounded up. and I do remember the 'early ss' option |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:39 PM Response to Reply #233 |
237. They shouldn't round up. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:10 PM Response to Reply #223 |
230. Dupe |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
232. There's a war on the young right now. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #232 |
269. ugh, the propaganda worked on you- because you're so short sighted. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 02:44 PM Response to Reply #269 |
270. There's really no propoganda being put out |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 04:35 PM Response to Reply #232 |
287. your elders are paying precisely the same taxes, and have been doing so longer than you. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 05:10 PM Response to Reply #287 |
288. Not proportionally. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:02 PM Response to Reply #288 |
294. ha ha, but what you can't see is that you're going to get old and sick and you don;t want to think |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:22 PM Response to Reply #294 |
301. Who are you responding to? |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 11:14 PM Response to Reply #301 |
325. it;s funny you want to blame older folk for being self centered when you can;t see past your own |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 05:22 PM Response to Reply #325 |
333. Boomers have spent 40 years fighting for their own self itnerests. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 07:27 PM Response to Reply #333 |
334. we paid more into social security, and have gone through three big recessions now |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 10:17 PM Response to Reply #288 |
322. We were all younger lower income workers too. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 10:51 PM Response to Reply #288 |
324. there is no upper limit on medicare, so yes, proportionally. and ss is capped at $106.8K, |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:54 PM Response to Reply #232 |
312. Been there, done that, Chad. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 09:24 PM Response to Reply #312 |
317. Who is Chad? |
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susanwy (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 09:25 PM Response to Reply #232 |
319. Ohhh, you poor baby! |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
235. Why did Pres Obama pick Alan Simpson? Arent all the commitee members repukes? nm |
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jtuck004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
239. We are not the "lesser people", and A. Simpson needs to eat those words. n.t. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
252. I dont see the big name Pres Obama fans here to answer why the Pres stacked the commission |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 02:51 PM Response to Reply #252 |
273. Rhett, not a 1 of the posse pops up when this question is raised. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:01 PM Response to Reply #273 |
293. So the question is, do they not care about SS or what? nm |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #252 |
276. They need to pull their heads out of Obama's ass first. n/t |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 06:59 PM Response to Reply #276 |
292. bingo |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
256. 58, and I'm not counting on anything. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
258. Anyone who is 'not counting on anything' has bought the bullshit. |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 02:11 PM Response to Reply #258 |
265. So T-Bills are a guarantee against reduced benefits? |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 02:34 PM Response to Reply #265 |
268. Trust fund T-bills are worth exactly what they are worth to all other t-bill holders. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #265 |
285. . |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 04:30 PM Response to Reply #265 |
286. us debt = $13 trillion. chinese-held = $900 B (6%). 10% of that = $90B (.6%) |
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Riverman (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
263. Cut the Fucking Pentagon! God Damn Them! I am 58 |
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smiley_glad_hands (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
266. Commission has no authority. Any dem that runs on cutting SS will lose. n/t |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 04:17 PM Response to Reply #266 |
283. Obama must have given this Commission some authority . . . ??? |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:51 PM Response to Reply #266 |
311. Don't kid yourself the dems will spin this |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
277. BS! |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 04:08 PM Response to Reply #277 |
281. That will do absolutely NO GOOD after the fact. |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 04:06 PM Response to Reply #281 |
331. Fine. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
282. We all had best get busy ... and we're many years late on slime like Alan Simpson . ..!! |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
290. All for a war for profit , outsourcing, and tax cuts for the uber-rich. |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
291. also, anyone counting on their assets to replace Social Security better think again |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
295. Deleted message |
johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
313. What a difference from "cat food commission" and "privatization"! |
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MissMarple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
321. Really? When Social Security was first proposed... what was the life expectancy of Americans? |
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hamsterjill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
332. 51 here |
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Pizzaboy (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
335. I'm 32. No good |
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